The Dozen's Thugs in Pillars of Eternity: Stories (Spoiler Warning!) Posted October 5, 2015 Guess there's a RES check for that dialog option? I usually play low-RES characters so I would miss it. No RES check. Give him the armour at the latest, when he says something like "... I ask ONE LAST time..." Then "...now do the same for Osric...." and finally "...are you really so stuck in your past that you need..." (or the like). He answers something like "...didn't see it that way..." and gives you the armour. Nevertheless, for the Knights you are now an associate of the Dozens. I'm not. The knights still gave me their quest line. Hmm... that's strange. Taking the armour from Penhelm should be the "point of no return", no matter if you got it peacefully or by force. But perhaps I am wrong, because I never took the armour and then talked to the knight commander. Maybe this way you can still get the quest of the knights, but then your career with the dozens is finished. Anyway, as far as I know it is impossible to get both main quests.