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Darth Clumber
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Seeing as how the Kotor MMO thread is closed...
I'm actually pretty excited for this MMO. It's no KOTOR 3 but it looks to be plenty interesting if they can pull off all of the stuff they're saying they can do well.
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What do you mean that you would not be able to accomplish anything? The end of KOTOR 2 is set up for the True Sith to invade the Republic since the Republic is just about dead anyway and the Jedi Order nearly non-existant. The only reason they would have been delayed 300 years in which the Republic recovered would be if Revan/Exile accomplished something in the Sith Empire. You can't realistically expect that they destroy all of the Sith by themselves, so instead they just caused enough problems that the Sith were not able to attack for another 300 years. There's plenty of potential for what happened there.
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Look on the bright side people. By skipping ahead 300 years and leaving Revan/Exile fates a mystery there is still hope for KOTOR3. Since the Republic/Jedi were incredibly at the end of KOTOR2, why did the Sith wait 300 years to finally attack? Maybe someone stirred up some trouble there, damaging them so they could not attack for another three centuries... Don't give up KOTOR 3 hope!
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I think LA and whatnot NOT saying anything about the KOTOR MMO points more to it existing than not existing, because they could so easily justr deny it if it wasn't true and be done with the rumors
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...what?
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LS takes longer 4 me cuz it seems more defensive...and i get annoyed having to keep reaplying all the buffs and whatnot, its so much easier just to spam awesome DS powers
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I guess Revan did kind of destroy the Sith, but did he make them stronger than ever in doing so? Thinking about him now though, Revan does actually seem like he's the Sith'ari. He is "free of all restrictions" in that he has never appeared to be tied completely to either the dark or light side, he is hiw own master and passes between the two as he wills. I don't know the exact quote but Malak says something for the LS (canon) ending about how Revan is not part of the ls or ds and will forever stand alone. If i could revote on the poll I would say Revan (I don't actually remember the vote though, I think it was for Bane tho)
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Playing a level as Revan to determine his alignment is porbably the best way to choose his alignment i think because just answering questions about him as someone else just feels kind of weird.
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Frodo did die but it was much later on after the War.
It doesn't matter WHEN it happened, my point is just that it ended with the main character's death.
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Sure you can play DS Revan, but its a non-canon player friendly option.
But, if you are claiming one side of the force is stronger than the other, you still have to admit that a Darkside user could defeat the same opponents.
.... because they don't want anyone to be upset.
It would really make people angry, (even me) if they said that since canon Revan is LS then I can't play a different way sometime and go DS and win.
Then why is it that its so much easier to kill all those foes as DS? Easier than it is as LS, and u cant say thats because they didnt want to make people angry, its just because DS is better
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9 seems like a bit much. I'd rather go more in-depth into a few planets than simply scratch the surface of a dozen. I don't want to do Korriban or Dantooine again either.
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Alright then. Does anyone think they ever will make a Sith'ari? I'm not sure how George Lucas would feel about having such an ultimate victory by the Sith
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I thought Frodo DID die at the end...I guess I'll have to read the books again...
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Why does it matter that LS users are generally the ones to kill DS users? It works the other way as well. Most Jedi are killed by Sith, and most Sith are killed by Jedi. It's just how it works and so you can't say that Sith Lords dying to Jedi makes the DS weaker.
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You are very angry Jediphile. Anger is the path to the Dark Side.
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1. Albion- DS has no control over their power? Jedi are less in control than the Sith, the Jedi are slaves to the force and do everything because it is the will of the force, the Sith simply use the force for whatever serves their own needs, they are COMPLETELY in control of their power.
Which is why the Sith has to be evil when hes a Dark Side user? He CAN'T do good? He CAN'T help someone out? Give me an example of a Sith saying, "Sure, here's a few credits and a bit mroe on top of thta to help out!" to someone begging for money.
Sure, a Sith could do that if it aided him in any way. Jedi on the other hand would be forced by their own moral conscience to aid the begger and lose some of their money in the process, while a Sith would walk away with his pockets still full, and maybe a little more if the begger had any money on his corpse. The Sith WILL do anything so long as it helps them out
Yoda: "Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" I believe the canon Revan even tells a dying Malak, "The Dark Side isn't any stronger than the Light Malak". Malak agrees then dies. (The dialogue is what I CHOSE personally.
Jediphile- using DS powers as a Jedi leads to the DS because these powers tend to be more destructive and deathfull, something that the Jedi try to stay away from and using such powers means you have ALREADY been tempted by the power it grants you, you have simply not admitted it yet. "To fall is a quiet thing," or something (Kreia says is it)
While lightside powers enhance your abilities but don't attack anyone, it balances out IMHO.
Say what you want, but DS powersw are stronger. Enhancing abilities are in games just to balance it out anyway
2. Albion-The Jedi's methods takes longer though, the DS is a quicker path to the same strength over the force. About Saving Private Ryan, the people were on a mission and didn't exactly have the time to stop where they were and wait till WW2 was over having a trial in the middle of nowhere, they had things to do. It would have been too difficult to bring him along so the choice would be kill him or let him go, the Jedi would let him go and pay for it later.
I already said the DS was quicker. But every DS user will fall from power or be redeemed and fix what he did (Revan). No Sith order will rule forever. We don't know enough about the True Sith except that it is possibly the race which doesn't count.
How can you know all of that? You can see the whole future? WOW! And for the record some ancient Sith Empire lasted for a pretty long time and they had some ruler who lead them for a really long time before he died. No Sith order will rule forever but neither will any Jedi, or Republic. It's just the way things go. I'm pretty sure Revan is the only Sith Lord to be redeemed and turncoat and his was a special case, he didn't even know who he was most of the time.
Jediphile-which shows the Jedi seek power just as much as the Sith do but aren't willing to admit it. The Sith are at least truthful about their intentions.
The Jedi seek power? Please explain how. Every example of the Jedi's "Power" is only confined to their order. They keep a tight rule but for good reasons. The Jedi do make mistakes, it is sentient nature. And you'd be crazy to not seek to better your abilities, that'd sound stupid. "Do not train with the force, let the Sith get strong, we don't want to be able to fight them!" Big doh.
Jedi power if not limited to their order. They act as policemen to the Republic. Take Episode 3 for example. The Jedi can arrest the head of the government without a warrant or evidence of any kind. Then Windu later decides to excecute his prisoner without trial or anything. THAT is why the Jedi seek power
3. Albion- it didn't really seem to be that even and shifting the whole time to me. We have one part where Anakin almost cuts Obi-Wan's head off with his own lightsaber until Obi-Wan manages to barely hit him off, and parts where they are saber-locked that Anakin using one hand against Obi's two hands and winning. Anakin being blind with power was a fault of his character, not the DS. There have been many Sith who know their abilities well and aren't too overconfident. On another note, the LS actually made the Jedi more blind than any Sith. They trusted too much, allowing Palpatine to rise to power and allowing Anakin to be seduced by the dark side, all without them knowing.
Its still even shifted, Obi-Wan manages to kick Anakin like 3 times and almost nearly makes Anakin fall off a cliff. The fight was meant to be equal..... except for that last bit. Was it that the LS blinded the Jedi, or that the Jedi couldn't just walk in and kill Palpatine due to Republic reasons? They sensed his plot ealry on.
I'm done arguing about Anakin vs. Obi, it's irrelevant. What I mean is that they could not see a Sith Lord right in front of them, and they trusted him to take all that power and step down afterwards without a fight. They were also blind to Anakin's relationship with Padme and they were blind to Anakin's slow journey to the DS
Jediphile- I don't really see anything to argue here. You're pretty much giving the facts.
I disagree. He didn't have to "obtain" the power to stop innocents (padme) from Suffering/dying. That is the Jedi's JOB. If the future is set, you cannot change it. Prime example is Padme still dying. It can be argued that the Palpatine even lied about Plageuis' abilities to save people from death to lure Anakin... which it worked.
Maybe he didn't, but that's what Anakin thought
4. Albion- the whole time Yoda is flying around the room, just staying clear of Palpatine's attacks. Their postitions wouldn't have been reversed because Palpatine had a better position to fight from (the center of the pad) because HE wasn't on the defensive. It was Yoda's fault he was in a bad postion to resist the blast.
Yoda still had to draw heavily upon the force to dodge them, I'm sure the 3ft greenthing wasn't a natural acrobat. And he intercepts one of the Senate Chairs and sends it back at Palpatine. Palpatine lost his lightsaber to Yoda somewhere as well, can't remember where. Because Yoda jumps up to where Palpatine is and ignites his lightsaber. Palpatine has to resort to Force Shock.
My point was that Yoda was forced to hop around and doge because he was on the defensive and he didn't have a good handhold because he couldn't because he was on the defensive
Jediphile- Yoda was on the defensive the whole time, it wasn't very even except in the beginning when they were fighting with lightsabers.
Read above.
5. uhhh...translation please?
Agreed.
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Although I guess he DID destroy the Sith, he never ruled them and I don't know about Star Wars EU but is the new order of Sith stronger than ever?
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Destroyed the Sith Empire, it fits. And this is the end of a series (possibly) and therefore the ending is going to of COURSE be different from the others. Are you going to complain that at the end of ROTJ Darth Vader was a good guy when he wasn't at the end of the first two so it doesn't fit? It's the END, things change.
Did Luke, the main character, die at the end of RotJ?
Was the ending "dark and gloomy because the rest of the so-called Imperial rule was"?
I'm sorry but if I'm not emo and I think it'd be stupid to just kill off everyone and have the same dark atmosphere exist after the series ends. Killing characters off is the quick and easy and non-intelligent way out. They could be more creative than that.
Maybe, but I think all of this really depends on whether they are going to continue with Revan and the Exile or not. If they decide not to do anymore, then they should kill them to tie things off (because like I said earlier they could be too much of a threat). If they want to continue with these characters then sure, leave them alive.
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Ya...I would like at some point to be able to play a neutral Jedi
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Do we know that it is hell? I didn't really think that there was heaven or hell type things with Star Wars, i thought you just became one with the force.
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If that's the case...does the Republic even stand a chance? The True Sith could send over one person and completely destroy it. The True Sith won't be more powerful than regular Jedi/Sith (except the higher ups of course) there will just be more of them with the force. We definitely need to start from level one though, preferrebly with a new PC.
To Albion, if you're character is not special or unique in any way, what would make him the choice to go off after Revan or do whatever he does? He needs to at least be a powerful Jedi or else he wouldn't even compare to Revan/Exile or Evil Sith Lords and it would be boring
Edit: Although it actually might be kind of cool to not be specifically super powerful. You would need to depend more on your companions, and we could even increase the party size a little bit. For the final battle with the boss, instead of going 1 on 1 you could have your party with you, but have the boss so powerful that it really needs everyone to defeat him.
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Destroyed the Sith Empire, it fits. And this is the end of a series (possibly) and therefore the ending is going to of COURSE be different from the others. Are you going to complain that at the end of ROTJ Darth Vader was a good guy when he wasn't at the end of the first two so it doesn't fit? It's the END, things change.
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I agree, there is yet to be a Sith'ari. Crushing all opposition does not mean that it can never return. Take Anakin for example. He was the chosen one and supposed to destroy the Sith, which he did, but apparently in the EU they crop up again a few years later.
On the poll is Vader. How is he the Sith'ari? He was the Jedi's chosen one, not the Sith's.
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1. New PC. While it is plausible for the Exile to lose his power again (since it was absorbed from his companions who might not be with him anymore) I'm pretty sure he would be pissed having to start from scratch for the 3rd time in his life.
2. I just really want the hood
3. Prestige classes were pretty cool, bu make some for neutral characters
4. I think he means other Empires besides the Sith, but I really think the game should be mostly confined to the Sith Empire itself
5. No, I don't want sub-plots in this game (sarcastic)
The most idiotic EU invention?
in Star Wars: General Discussion
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Could somebody explain the stuff they're posting because I have no idea what most of it is. What I probably dslike the most is anything after the 6th movie because the Sith were supposed to be detroyed based off the prophecy so it just ruins everything.