Rique

No worries really and i am honest when i say thank you, thanks to you i will skip lay on hands, i was unleved becaused lf that.

Thanks, it is all fine. But i am not a new player. I dislike forums so i just recently registred but i have the game since lunch.

Hm sorry but you didnt the math for me,,, sorry but your whole tone is becoming uncomfortable while this whole teaching approach. You are sharing your opinions, some factuals, some not. About this exortation do more damage than fires of dracozzi, i never said ot did and you missed the point where i said that i like to keep my toons with a foot on rping and lore. Fires of Dracozzi Palace skills was all about it for this one. Anyway yes, i know what i am doing on normal just like i would if tired potd (i would experiment and see what worked best). But again thanks for your input. I just checked here and that will save me from getting lay on hand. As the other op i had no idea that liberating exprtation could be self casted.

We are debating. I appreciate your input but we are both sharing experiencing here. What i am saying is that as much as i understang and appreciate your explanation, my points are as valid as yours, so you are not "trying to make me combat effective"... I may be new here but not to PoE or cRPGs. With all being said, I still think that both skills are not that good on long term as long as you have a priest in your party that can take care of debuff and shieldings. It is a personal preference so there is no right or wrong, that is what I am saying. I may take this in consideration if I roll a paladin for potd. So far on normal I really dont see the need to spend 2 skills like this. I will make a test now since I have 2, 3 levels saved anyway just to see how he progress but only because I am stuck on getting lay on hand in one of the levels. Cheers.

Thank you both for the input anyway. Cheers!

A Darcozzi Paladin who gets Liberating Exhoration and upgrade it at the next even level. The talent is called "Inspiring Liberation" and adds +10 Accuracy to the ally. Bond of Duty is for Goldpact Knights so you are looking at the wrong order or something that is out of date. https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Inspiring_Liberation Here you go. Also you are wrong on the nothing eye catching. It is the single best Exhortation a Paladin has. In the late game if you do the difficult bounties you will take a huge amount of debuffs like blind and targeted terrifies etc if you are playing on PotD you will get hit at some point no matter how good your defenses. Enemy accuracy is too high. If you are blinded and terrified from a spell for example you will not hit a thing and your defenses will be very low. You will die or be a non factor in the fight. If you are in a party clearing a Paralyze or Petrify from an ally can change the tide of a fight. An ally can go from a petrified about to be a knocked out target to cleared and fighting fully party member for a minimum of 20 seconds (base if you have 10 INT). The only other ability that does this is the priest third level spell and the AOE is TINY and even with a 20 INT it only last 8 seconds. A Paladin with a 20 INT can cleanse a powerful DPS party member or him/herself and turn them from a CCed useless character to a fully functioning and buffed ass kicker. This has literally saved my Triple Crown runs more then once. If you have a priest in the group and play it perfectly every time and are able to get status effect immunity on the entire party every single fight well then you would not need it. That being said on a Darcozzi I would take it anyway on PotD as Accuracy is DPS and DPS is life in this game. It has literally saved a Triple Crown Playthrough We were talking about different sills: liberating and inspiring. And yes, I forgot about the second dracozzi skill as I pointed. I am not playing on hardest difficult either even this being my second run, so I guess that in this point makes little of no point. This could be a lifesaver on higher difficult levels but at this point I cannot say and will take your word as experience. I can say that, in my personal opinion now, for normal, I would rather spend this point on weapon focus or 2 on weapon focus/combat.

Wait, you can cast Liberating Exhortation on yourself? So Inspiring Liberation can affect yourself? This changes everything. You absolutely can. Liberating Exhortation is the only Exhortation (command) that you can place on yourself. It is clutch on PotD where you need every point of accuracy in a dragon fight. What you have to be careful with not getting into the rhythm of using just as a buff and depending on the enemy treating it like the cleanse (temperory cleanse there is no permanent cleanse in this game lol it all comes back after the buff wears off it just suspends debuffs) that it is. Because sometimes you can use it at the start of a fight and someone takes a debuff and you have use up your second Liberating to get them out of the debuff. Again remember that all these "remove debuff" abilities in POE just remove it for a temporary period AND the debuffs can be reapplied while your under the cleanse affect. Although the AI usually does not continually spam debuffs. It seems that have some type of cool down mechanism that we don't. "shrug" Darcozzi Paladin here I come. @Rique: ACC is Accuracy, one of the more important stats in the game. The Darcozzi Paladin talent Inspiring Liberation adds a +10 Accuracy buff to the Liberating Exhortation talent, making it a powerful debuff remover and accuracy buff, that should stack with mostly anything. Yes I know that accuracy is important. And I totally forget about their second exclusive skill! lol Got it. Well I didnt get it on my build but I have 2 or 3 levels saved. May give it a try. But still you need to spend 2 skils for this (liberating exortation and inspiring exortation) to a +10 accurary boost and a very situational protection (charm). I am personally more moved to get a two handed sword weapon focus or/and combat for perm accurary and damage increase. Lets see. Thanks for the input!

Thank you so very much, there is third wyvern that... lol.

Being new is making me lost the conversation due the fact my posts cannot be edited and have to wait approval. I checked again Liberating Exhortation and found nothing eye cathing about it or the talents related (liberating exortating, bond duty), they are all skills to be applied on allies and with situational bonuses (like protection from charm). Besided, what you mean by "ACC"?

Hi, thanks for the answer. Let me get to your topic with no problem! My intention was to build a tank-ish dps. After some tries with different combos (including some min/max), I decided go dracozzi with maximum flame damage possible. I actually have a build suggestion for it that I am wondering to post ("The Volatio Regio Commando"). My first idea was go with fire gl, but I really dislike the male head models, but the main concept still goes a sect of dracozzi paladini formed most by fire gl with few exceptions (me being one now lol). A pity really because as I tested, the fire gl even procc more damage so it is the ideal race for this build if you bypass the bad modeling choices they did. At this point the only question that remained open was if add burn damage could raise his damage even more. Right now I have am one of top damage dealers in the party. I like to optimize my characters but keep them in a rp line, kinda of a grey line but that is what make rpgs interesting to me. So the build is open to min/max but I decided NOT drop a stat below 10 to keep him as "normal" as possible as I understand that a paladin with 3, 4 con would be something kinda out of reality (although totally viable ingame mechanics). I did get sworn enemy but havent test Liberating Exhortation yet. Honestly I think I will totally skip it. I do have some levels stores and one of kinda locked me on Liberating Exhortation and other options. I never liked to play field medic and Liberating Exhortation kinda has this feeling to me. I rather spend point on things like deep faith, inspire triumph... That is just my opinion, of course. So far I havent see any real point to get Liberating Exhortation on this build even if I like it but is totally open to it. I tried roll a kind wayfarer but honestly the dracozzi have a best combo damage with flames of devotion, scion of flames and, if you are a fire gl, the bonus procc damage when you reach bellow X endurance is a killer. At this point, my build is (if I am not mistaken) 16/12/10/13/15. Last vigil all the time raising per and res to 14/16 make me walk through most conversation gloves of dextrery since valewood making dex 12.. I purchase the troll belt un dryford village and with the lesser version of recovery (sorry, forget the name) that caps my recovery as a fighter (without enhancements). Of course, if anyone wants drop his dex or even his con to raise int, per, res or mi... thats is open. But please explain how do you see LE as so important. I am basing my judgment on ingame description. https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Liberating_Exhortation Cheers.

Hi, I have a question about scion of flame. I am building a dps dracozzin paladini so I get this skill/perk. So far it is doing wonders with flames of devotion and fires of dracozzi palace. And I finally got tindefall so I wonder if I place a burn enchantment on it, scion of flame will also affect my damage with the blade? Or it only applies to magic damage doing with fire? Thanks in advance.

Hi, I need a little help with this quest. On my first run I finished it without problems but now I simply cannot click on anything that pop the option to bury he scroll. There are two wyverns skellies on black meadows. One has a hidden "stash" on the skull that Durance spotted. But I am pretty sure it should be buried on the first (more on the right) since its head is placed slight more towards east but the only thing I am getting is a google with "mice on teeth" text. Help? Thanks in advance.

No, it means three ranks in your two favoured dispositions. Basically each time you choose a dialogue option that is labelled with a given disposition you gain some points in that disposition (think of them like disposition XP). Once you gain enough of these points you advance to the next disposition rank. See this page for details: https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Disposition#Disposition_gain Very roughly speaking you can reach rank 1 and maybe rank 2 by the end of Act I, and rank 2/3 throughout Act II. It's worth noting that this also means you can get away with a very few dialogue options in your disfavoured dispositions without picking up a rank in them, though be careful as it takes very little to achieve rank 1 in a disposition. No, Deep Faith is a flat bonus to Faith and Conviction. As soon as you pick it you get the bonus. Thanks, Jerek. Stupid question: where I can track this "dispostion bar" (rank)? as far as I remember, I know about a sheet on character profile showing "points". Is that? I honestly dont remember the numbers of my fighter. SO, based on the answers I must (lets put that way) try farm as many points possible wich is what I want That means, for example, instead of taking a diplomatic or fast resolution at the camp, the best thing is let the dude (I keep forgeting his name) getting hut, kill the thieves, save him to unlock the situation where he should rest (and get the benevolent point)? OR The game has enough options to max BOTH dispostions (benevolent and passionate) without me trying to farm all to max it? PS.: I dont want waste a talent on Untroubled Faith. In my case, that not even needed because I will surely NOT pick any oposity disposition anyway. But sometimes, as far I could see in the Norton's case, I may want take things on a more "lawful" approach.

Hi all, In all these years playing cRPGs, I usually roll a paladin when aviable. I like the general aura around them and the ethos. Funny enough, that wasnt the case on my first run on PoE about 2 years ago. I am not complaining about game mechanics, actually at that point I was pretty unaware of them or the criticism regarding the class. I rolled a fight. I just found the fighter more interesting and I wanted a solid dual wielder. Fast forward to now. I decided roll a paladin and actually did some test with different builds. The whole thing is growing on me, no matter what I love the class no matter what game. But then I am somehow struggling with the ethos. Like in the Norton's quest: my usuall reaction as paladin would be upheld the law no matter what and tell him and the woman I would deliver them to the magistrate. That was ok IF the "kind wayfarers" wasnt the only order that somehow appealed to me (none actually did, but this one has its charm). While exploring the class in the first areas, I just found about "Faith & Conviction" and how it actually works. I dont want get deeper here in order to avoid the topic drift away from the original purpose, but I think in this case it really helps if you turn on reaction and disposition. Basically as a kind wafarer I have to be keep him on his ethos (benevolent and passionate) and let both them go. SO I started digging some info from official wiki and even here and I am still kind confused. Please help and comment: - I read the "maximum" amount you can achieve on each disposition is 3. That means 3 "points" ie 3 answers labelled as benevolent? For example, letting the thieve rest after we escape the caravan camp, letting Norton go and + one would max everything you can have for "benevolent"? I am asking this because if that is NOT the case, I would be interested in keep farming as many benevolent points as I can. - "deep faith" raises F&C, does it mean you need 4 points in each dispostion (4 anwers nailed in dialogues)? Thanks a lot.