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Count me as another peep that thought the romances were practically non existence.

Influence is only one of the requirements that Jedi trainable NPCs need in order to become Jedi with Disciple and Bao-Dur as the possble exceptions. Yes Dan Simpson (Gamefaq), Achilles (LucasArts\StarWarsKights.com), and Boiler98 (Obsidian) influence guides are great but they do not tell you all the requiments to turn the Hanmaiden, Mira, Atton, Disciple(?) and Bao-Dur(?) into Jedis (sp?).

Besides having either a 90 or 10 influence, what other event triggers do I need to do in order to convert NPCs to Jedi or is this everything? From what I searched and found on Obsidian\LucasArts\Gamebanshee Handmaiden 1) Defeated her 3 times in sparring matches on the Ebon Hawk (you must be Level 18 to get the last fight) 2) Asked her about her mother, and talked to Kreia about her mother. 3) Tell her that the force runs strongly in her, and that she can learn, etc. Atton Two Twileks in the Refugee Quad on Nar Shaddaa and then talking to him about his past on aboard the Ebon Hawk Mira Talking to her at the entrance to the cantina (where Kreia told you about the echoes on Nar Shadaa) on Nar Shadaa Disciple and Bao-Dur influence only Does it matter whether or not I am on board the Ebon Hawk? Are there any triggers for Visas to building a new lightsaber or do I do that?