DecayWolf

Well, if you are mix-max I think the +20 stun defense from the coastal Aumaua to be the best racial. There's AoE stuns in the game. Being stunned not only can make your character die, but also prevents the cipher from doing DPS and casting spells. +2 MIG is also solid. For Ranged there's no much to think about. Dump CON and RES, max out everything else. Requires a party, but the cipher won't be ranged otherwise anyways. For melee. If you want a CC cipher, 10 - 12 MIG, max DEX and INT, dump RES. Your perception can be as high/low as your party gives you accuracy buffs. For a damage cipher, inteligence can be lower, but might needs to be maxed. For melee, I'd pick pale elf or the same coastal aumaua.

I could also bring a Cipher instead the Wizard. But the cipher's blind is much weaker. Their AoE CCs aren't that great in comparison.

So, I played a little bit, and stopped in 80% of ACT2. Going to return to the game, got a few doubts. 1. Party composition: At start, I though the core of my party to be my main Cipher, an Priest, an Paladin and Rogue. For I believe all those classes have a very strong synergy together. Paladin can tank, dps, heal, buff accuracy and attack speed, which will make my cipher build more focus. Priest almost same thing, they also had debuffs, their dps is a little lower on auto attacks. Rogue could assassin bosses and otherwise dangerous foes, also I though they would be the best users of Reaping Knives, due their natural bonuses to damage modifiers and criticals. And they kinda are, except for their attack speed. I just noticed that in auto attack, another Cipher can build more focus per second than a Rogue, purely due attack speed modifier alone. (Time Parasite) However, Rogues absolutely can do more DPS with either with his active abillities, or with any attack speed buff (out lander's frenzy, potion of alacrity motion, vielo vidori, hastening) Any of these would make the rogue's auto attack to give a better DPS. They can reach about 100 raw damage per second in auto attack alone. Which is pretty crazy is you think about it. I mean, he could kill bosses petrified in 3 seconds or less, faster with criticals. But then, another Cipher would add another entire new layer of CC, of which I believe it would make the party much stronger. Another problem is, I need someone great with mechanics. A chanter needs high lore to compensate for his lack of abilities, A Cipher needs high survival for extra damage. I could use a wizard for that, but I think it's a little bit weird. Rogues are the best mechanics. If I am to bring 2 cipher, then another rogue feels less important, because I could cast Reaping Knives on each other, so I feel the rogue has lost his otherwise unique role and major synergy. The last pieces I am thinking are: Wizard for CC, and Chanter/Rogue as the last piece. Chanter would enhance my cipher's DPS, Rogue still are the best RK user and mechanic. 2. Firebrand. So, I was thinking about giving it to Durance, it would be cool with all his fire lore stuff. Also, Holy Radiance, Divine Mark, Searing Seal, Shining Beacon, Storm of Holy Fire, Hand of Weal, Symbol of Magran and Burst of Summer Flame. Very strong choice of Scion of Flame and Firebrand. The thing is, priest spend a lot of time casting buffs/debuffs spells and not auto attacking. I think a Firebrand would be a little bit wasted on him due that? My original choice was my Paladin, with Firebrand becomes completely awesome, very high defenses, attack speed and accuracy buffs, healing, and very good DPS. Besides, Flames of Devotion, Intense Flame, Sacred Immolation and Sun Beam (Armor), with the dead fire's belt he also would get an Firebrand, Fire Shield and Flame Torrent. Also making him into a solid Scion of Flame. I could give the gloves to Durance and the belt to Pallegina though, so both would have Firebrand. That's what I am thinking. That also would allow me to give her the gloves with overseeing. 3. How are criticals calculated? I mean, does it applies it's modifier BEFORE DR? Or does it first take the base damage with all modifiers, minus DR, then make an additional mod from the value after the DR reduction? 4. Attributes: MIG 18, CON 15, DEX 20, PER 10, INT 12, RES 3, for a damage specialized Cipher, almost no CC spells. or Should I get Int 18 at the cost of Per 4? Well, the highest monster deflection (no boss) is about 70ish. Natural cipher accuracy at level 16 = 70. Priest can net an additional 30 (10 being 1 cast only, short duration) Pallegina can net another additional 30. Legendary weapon 15 / Spells 5 to 10. That's already 145 for Weapon and 135/140 for spells. Durgan steel should give another 15 to hit to critical, and priest buff another 20 hit to critical. That would make I critical on every single auto attack, no exception. Against no bosses. Then, we still have Flank for -10 Deflection, and Petrified/Paralzed for -40, or Stunned for -30 or Blinded for -25. I really don't need accuracy for auto attacks. Which also would give me 100% critical even with the hit to critical modifier. Spells are another story though, for resistances are much higher and debuffs defenses much weaker (weakened only -20 Will/Fortitude). Also I believe it completely ignores the modifiers from weapon and talents. In the other hand, Desintegration is stronger with lower int. Anyhow...

There is a few problems with that. 1. I'll dumping 3 MIG away, because of +4 headgear, or would have to give it to someone else, means -1 MIG and removal of unbiding from my Cipher. 1,2. Likewise dump of 3 DEX or give away Ring of Thorns to someone else. Dumping 3 DEX is actually a pretty big deal, since the game does lack +3 DEX gear. 2. There's the DPS itself. I've made a math of BotEP vs tHoSR vs Firebrand. With plate, 1st place is BotEP, by a very long margin, due 5 DR bypass + speed mod. 2nd place it's tHoSR, 3rd Firebrand. tHoSR has +10% from legendary, burning lashes and +1 MIG (headgear stays). Plus it has annihilation, while I am not accounting or calculating critical, I do know it's present and will add up. The second run was a naked/0 recovery. I didn't made any change to BotEP because it had achieved 0 recovery already. Then I had the following result. 1st, tHoSR. (critical not accounted), 2nd BotEP (barely behind), 3rd Firebrand about 10 DPS behind tHoSR. Then if we include Annihilation to the equation... Against 0 DR. Against 10+ DR BotEP still on the lead. Firebrand takes the 2nd place against 20+DR, loses to tHoSR against 0 to 10DR enemies. 3. Problem. If I remove Firebrand from my paladin, he'll become rather weak and unflexible. I mean I'll either have to chose to completely dump and sacrifice his DPS, consequentely gimp his offensive abilities and items/skills trigger on kill, or have to either remove his marking role or tanker role, in favor of a 2H weapon set. 4. Since I did not include criticals, Tidefall should have the exact same DPS with Plate/Naked as tHoSR, thus it would also beat Firebrand, but give me drain and additional DPS from wounding lash. With all being said, I do believe Firebrand on my paladin is the correct choice. Edit: Early game however, it's a completely different beast and story. I'll be using Firebrand early game, till Tidefall.

Priest Durance Meadow human Attributes MIGHT 14 (+3) CON 13 (+2) DEX 9 (+4) PER 9 (+4) INT 15 (+4) RES 18 (+3) Talents Inspiring Radiance Inspired Flame Arms Bearer Quick Switch Scion of Flame Aggrandizing Radiance Gunner Weapon Focus Soldier Gear: Company Captain's Cap Cape of the Master Mystic Starlit Garb Girdle of Maegfolc Might Seal of Faith Gwyn's Band of Union Gauntlets of Swift Action Viettro's Formal Footwear Pliambo per Casitàs Arquebus Arquebus I had two possible builds for him. The above ranger, or a hybrid with interdiction + weakness. Weakness is very handy for Ciphers, they love it. But hybrids doesn't excel at anything so... in the end that was my build for him. Looking foward to cast Avatar + Aggravating Radiance + Salvation of Time. As a side note, he's immune to charm/domination with this gear, so if anyone catch one of my party members prayer against bewilderment. Cipher Grieving Mother Human Attributes MIG 11 (+3) CON 12 DEX 16 (+2) PER 12 INT 17 (+2) RES 10 Talents Quick Switch Biting Whip Draining Whip Marksman Penetrating Shot Spirit of Decay Apprentice's Sneak Attack Bloody Slaughter Crossed Patch Talisman of the Unconquerable Angio's Gambeson Belt of the Stelgaer Bartender's Ring Pensiavi mes Rèi Gauntlets of Swift Action Glanfathan Stalking Boots The Rain of Godagh Field Long-Feller She'll initiate with the Arquebus (which has grazes to hits), then switch to the bow for the remaining of the combat. After casting Reaping Knives that is. Then CC for the heart content. If that doesn't fix the poor focus generation, then nothing will.

Chanter Kana Rua Island aumaua Attributes MIG 16 (+3) CON 12 (+4) DEX 9 PER 14 INT 17 (+3) RES 10 (+4) Talents Ancient Memory Beloved Spirits Weapon and Shield Style Brisk Recitation Veteran's Recovery Bear's Fortitude Body Control Superior Deflection Gear: White Crest's Helm Voice of the Mountaintop White Crest Armor Sentinel's Girdle Gathbin Family Signet Iron Circle Siegebreaker Gauntlets Frythr's Plated Greaves Blesca's Labor The Last Tower Spectacular Spetum Cloudpiercer My tanker. Did both of the fortitude saves to avoid Paralyse like the plague, so I believe it simply won't die. (hopefully) He can also work as a maker with his pole axe, or a ranged unit. Very versatile. Plus chants ofc. Paladin Pallegina Avian godlike Attributes MIG 12 (+3) CON 13 (+3) DEX 11 (+3) PER 14 INT 13 (+3) RES 15 Talents Vielo Vidòrio Critical Focus Wrath of Five Suns Scion of Flame Two-Handed Style Intense Flames Greater Lay on Hands Deep Faith Paladin's abilities Flames of Devotion Zealous Focus Sworn Enemy Coordinated Attacks Hastening Exhortation Lay on Hands Sacred Immolation Healing Chain Gear: Nîdhen's Finger Ryona's Breastplate Belt of the Royal Deadfire Cannoneer Ring of Deflection Ring of Protection Forgemaster's Gloves Bilestompers Abydon's Hammer Old Gerun's Wall Cladhalíath Shame or Glory Firebrand Very versatile build. It can tank, can mark targets and can deal tons of damage with Firebrand. The idea from talents/abllities is to aid the team, especially the ciphers to get the first focus going really fast, until they can cast Time Parasite. Versatility could be a problem, I'll see how it works. The idea is to switch to marking only against very high defense and dangerous enemies, otherwise she can wreck stuff on her own. Or to captalize when a enemy is say paralyzed, or to hold the line when most needed. Rogue Cemoc Death godlike Attributes MIG 18 (+2) CON 14 (+2) DEX 20 (+3) PER 18 INT 5 RES 3 (+2) Talents Weapon Focus Ruffian Two Weapon Style Vicious Fighting Devastating Blow Shadowing Beyond Backstab Savage Attack Bloody Slaughter Rogue's abilities Blinding Strike Reckless Assault Dirty Fighting Finishing Blow Withering Strike Deathblows Fearsome Strike Sap Gear: Finreah's Grace Vengiatta Rugia Broad Belt of Power Ring of Deflection Snerf's Folly Rabbit Fur Gloves Glanfathan Stalking Boots Purgatory Resolution Borresaine That's my first rogue, hopefully it ended alright. Yes, by over killing damage over the top is intentional. He'll be using Reaping Knives as end game, which is also raw. The more damage it does, the more focus my ranged cipher will get. Besides, she'll be able to cast it from the start of the battle, from how I built her, so it's a win-win. Since my CC and debuffer will be my cipher who will constantly be casting things that trigger sneak attack, I believe I can dump int freely.

/\ the above is wrong. There some sort of glitch on that calculator. When you mentioned 0,7f it was giving me that with plate. When I did the above, the Firebrand was giving me 1,65s with plate, and 0 recovery naked. Tried again, nope. Was looking into dual sabres, one end result was 51f, another gave me 41f. Basically I need to refresh once or twice every time I want to check something, in order to avoid issues. Also the above even has burning lash, forgot to take out. ____ Melee Cipher. Human. First and foremost, while BotEP is my main end goal, I'll be using Tidefall before getting that a lot, and may not choose BotEP. I'll be using Firebrand early game, I'll rush the gloves and belt to my cipher, until I get Tidefall. That's why Scion of Flames is so high on the list of talents. After Tidefall, I'll give it away to my paladin, both items. Attributes (I am planning 1 or 2 respecs) 1. MIG 20, CON 8, DEX 16, PER 10, INT 14, RES 10. 2. MIG 20, CON 8, DEX 12, PER 10, INT 18, RES 10. 3. MIG 20, CON 9, DEX 18, PER 10, INT 18, RES 3. 1. Is the initial build out of the gate. 2. Is after acquiring 0 recovery, may be ignored if I acquire the item from below. Reason, dex has diminish return the faster the character is, while longer buffs become more relevant. 3. After acquiring Belt of Chimes. The only reason why I didn't dumped res was because of concentration, this item solves that. Since this gives 7 free stat points, I had to put somewhere. If I get this item before 0 recovery then I skip respec n2. (Even with diminishing returns, DEX does increase DPS...) Note: I am still unsure how my final CON and PER will look like, I may do just a final respec to tweak that. Talents Greater Focus Biting Whip Draining Whip Scion of Flame Outlander's Frenzy Savage Attack Two-Handed Style Apprentice's Sneak Attack Gear: Maegfolc Skull Brîshalgwin Mindmarker / TotU He Carries Many Scars Belt of Chimes Ring of Deflection Ring of Thorns Gauntlets of Swift Action Malina's Boots Blade of the Endless Paths Stormcaller or Tidefall I know Stormcaller is kinda ****y to build focus, but it's a ranged weapon with two damage types, plus it deals good damage from spells active spells. This build should be able to build focus extremely fast, so why not? My intention for the build. A 22 to 33 DR Cipher, aided by Psychovampiric Shield, Borrowed Instinct, Going Between (ally cipher), Unbiding (if needed) a tons of healing from the team (if needed), while having the best DPS and focus generation as possible.

I was thinking about saving such weapon for specific encounters where the enemy is either immune or has a very high slash DR. Because going bittercut I'll lose the bonus from Scion of Flame. I mean, I already have a chanter giving a free burning lash, so was thinking about spec all my melee into that. Well, after last fixes. BotEP (Plate): Focus per second 0 DR / 15 DEX 64,06 91,52 Focus per second 10 DR / 15 DEX 56,06 83,52 Focus per second 20 DR / 15 DEX 40,06 67,52 Focus per second 30 DR / 15 DEX 24,06 51,52 Firebrand (Plate) Focus per second 0 DR / 15 DEX 60,53 90,79 Focus per second 10 DR / 15 DEX 50,54 80,80 Focus per second 20 DR / 15 DEX 40,55 70,81 Focus per second 30 DR / 15 DEX 30,56 60,83 Firebrand (Naked) Focus per second 0 DR / 15 DEX 87,60 131,41 Focus per second 10 DR / 15 DEX 73,15 116,95 Focus per second 20 DR / 15 DEX 58,69 102,49 Focus per second 30 DR / 15 DEX 44,24 88,04 The focus has a multiplier of only 1,03. So one can consider this as dps. With all offensive talents, might, dex, time parasite, etc.

Indeed.

Nice I'll fix that. I though it was 0.05 and it was multiplicative after total. So, firebrand will have a lower dps.

Hmm... By the way... Does annihilation stacks? I've already chose purgatory to make rogue, annihilation + drain, kidding me? It's my first rogue ever, I am going to build him crit focused with spell striking and a few utility spell biding. Stats: Might 20 Constitution 13 Dexterity 16 Perception 18 Inteligence 8 Resolve 3 Is that good? Haven't looked on talents nor abilities yet.

Hehe. I completely forgot about "Soul Whip's 20%" Gonna fix that in a sec. I forgot to fix HoSR, still it's pretty safe to assume it's not a competitor of Firebrand/BotEP (I mean without crit). I think BotEP cannot go legendary. marking = 2, speed = 3, legendary = 8, lash = 2. lash + superb > legendary without lash. only If I could remove the marking... Yes, I've added the scion of flame to firebrand base damage, as well to burning lash. My firebrand formula is Firebrand Base Damage 20 30 Modifiers Firebrand 0,45 0,45 Bitting Whip 0,2 0,2 Savage Attack 0,2 0,2 2 Hand Style 0,15 0,15 Sneak Attack 0,15 0,15 MIGHT 26 0,8 0,8 Modified Bonus 2,95 2,95 Modified Damage before DR 59 88,5 Modified Damage 10 DR 49 78,5 Modified Damage 20 DR 39 68,5 Modified Damage 30 DR 29 58,5 Scion of Flame (0,2) 0 DR (Base) 70,8 106,2 Scion of Flame (0,2) 10 DR (Base) 58,8 94,2 Scion of Flame (0,2) 20 DR (Base) 46,8 82,2 Scion of Flame (0,2) 30 DR (Base) 34,8 70,2 Aefyllath Ues Mith Fyr (0,25) 17,7 26,6 0 DR 17,7 26,6 10 DR 15,2 24,1 20 DR 12,7 21,6 30 DR 10,2 19,1 Scion of Flame (0,2) 0 DR (Lash) 21,2 31,9 Scion of Flame (0,2) 10 DR (Lash) 18,2 28,9 Scion of Flame (0,2) 20 DR (Lash) 15,2 25,9 Scion of Flame (0,2) 30 DR (Lash) 12,2 22,9 Final Damage no DR 80,2 120,4 Final Damage 10 DR 67,2 107,4 Final Damage 20 DR 54,2 94,4 Final Damage 30 DR 41,2 81,4 Final Focus no DR 82,6 124,0 Final Focus 10 DR 69,3 110,6 Final Focus 20 DR 55,9 97,2 Final Focus 30 DR 42,5 83,8 Focus per second 0 DR / 15 DEX 42,6 63,9 Focus per second 10 DR / 15 DEX 35,7 57,0 Focus per second 20 DR / 15 DEX 28,8 50,1 Focus per second 30 DR / 15 DEX 21,9 43,2 I'll see about crits later, I want to finish my builds first, then if I see a crit could turn better, than I just need to switch one weapon, in worse case scenario a little talent adjustment as well.

https://filebin.net/gcothczk3jj2q8vj see if that works.

I'll give one script from one weapon that I am running on excel BotEP Base Damage 14 20 Modifiers Superb 0,45 0,45 Bitting Whip 0,2 0,2 Savage Attack 0,2 0,2 2 Hand Style 0,15 0,15 Sneak Attack 0,15 0,15 MIGHT 27 0,85 0,85 Modified Bonus 3 3 Modified Damage before DR 42 60 Modified Damage 10 DR 37 55 Modified Damage 20 DR 27 45 Modified Damage 30 DR 17 35 Burning Lash (0,25) 10,5 15 Aefyllath Ues Mith Fyr (0,25) 10,5 15 0 DR 21 30 10 DR 16 27,5 20 DR 13,5 22,5 30 DR 8,5 17,5 Scion of Flame (0,2) 0 DR (Lash) 25,2 36 Scion of Flame (0,2) 10 DR (Lash) 19,2 33 Scion of Flame (0,2) 20 DR (Lash) 16,2 27 Scion of Flame (0,2) 30 DR (Lash) 10,2 21 Final Damage no DR 67,2 96 Final Damage 10 DR 56,2 88 Final Damage 20 DR 43,2 72 Final Damage 30 DR 27,2 56 Final Focus no DR 69,2 98,9 Final Focus 10 DR 57,9 90,6 Final Focus 20 DR 44,5 74,2 Final Focus 30 DR 28,0 57,7 Focus per second 0 DR / 15 DEX 67,2 96,0 Focus per second 10 DR / 15 DEX 56,2 88,0 Focus per second 20 DR / 15 DEX 43,2 72,0 Focus per second 30 DR / 15 DEX 27,2 56,0 I'll upload it somewhere and link the achieve. I am still messing around. Basically, step 1 = base damage + modifiers. Step 2 = adds lash damage, with the proper correction from dr. step 3 = adds utility elemental talent damage boost to lash, (or jump this step, also for Firebrand I am also adding this mod for it's base damage) step 4 = adds base damage after modifers + lash damage after modifiers from dr and stuff for total damage step 5 = divide total damage per s, so I get my real dps. step 6 = get my dps and covert into focus per second. more or less that's the idea. I'll upload somewhere, sec.

Some silly stuff, to see which talent is better than what, and the optimal order to get. Also taking in consideration of other party members spells/skills and such. Between that I also started checking Focus per second.

Still working on the party build, still something that I think I have missed. I cannot reach 0,7f with plate, only with robe... I am missing something? Anyways, I am doing some math about a few things, just started on the swords. Here is BotEP vs Firebrand, no critical. (If critical Firebrand has a 0.2 advantage on the final damage) BotEP (Superb + Burning Lash + Aefyllath Ues Mith Fyr, 27 MIG, 15 DEX, Time Parasite, Scion of Flame) Focus per second 0 DR / 15 DEX 67,2 96 Focus per second 10 DR / 15 DEX 51,2 80 Focus per second 20 DR / 15 DEX 35,2 64 Focus per second 30 DR / 15 DEX 19,2 48 Focus per second 0 DR / 15 DEX 67,2 96,0 Focus per second 10 DR / 15 DEX 56,2 88,0 Focus per second 20 DR / 15 DEX 43,2 72,0 Focus per second 30 DR / 15 DEX 27,2 56,0 Corrected. Firebrand (With Aefyllath Ues Mith Fyr, 26 MIG, 15 DEX, Time Parasite, Scion of Flame) Focus per second 0 DR / 15 DEX 42,6 63,9 Focus per second 10 DR / 15 DEX 35,7 57,0 Focus per second 20 DR / 15 DEX 28,8 50,1 Focus per second 30 DR / 15 DEX 21,9 43,2 Firebrand hits harder, but it's almost 1s slower... That's why the lower focus per second. Also Lash adds up. Oh, also both has the gloves, I mean they're as fast as possible. Also taking added all focus generation sources (base,neck,food,talent) EDIT HoSR (Superb + Burning Lash + Aefyllath Ues Mith Fyr, 27 MIG, 15 DEX, Time Parasite, Scion of Flame) Focus per second 0 DR / 15 DEX 44,4 63,4 Focus per second 10 DR / 15 DEX 33,8 52,8 Focus per second 20 DR / 15 DEX 23,2 42,3 Focus per second 30 DR / 15 DEX 12,7 31,7 Reason it's lower it's because I cannot reach 0 recovery without speed. Otherwise it supposed to be the same as BotEP, because I forgot to add the 5 armor penetration. That is without critical.

Also have been looking, BotEP cannot become legendary and receive a lash, but Tidefall can... Since speed mod ain't necessary that changes everything. I mean focus building wise Tidefall > BotEP. Btw, how can I know if a weapon can receive a secondary lash? For instance, Justice already has a crush lash, if I could add a second lash there, it would be one of the best focus generating weapons for a cipher ever. I've selected a few weapons, that can become legendary and receive a lash. Here is the list. The Hours of St. Rumbalt. Tidefall. Tall Grass. Jêna's Lance. There others too, but they don't add anything to dps directly, only indirectly due utility/prone. Half-Mast. Of which can actually be better than the spears, due dual damage. There's also The Rose of Salthollow, which is pretty much like Tidefall . The only downside is that I believe I won't be able to put a burn lash... Beyond that, golden. Anyways, I'll make some builds later and post here.

Right, so the wounding is a lash. Does that means I can replace it?

With lash? You mean the warhammer? Does it works even if on my secondary weapon slot, without using it? Really? Nice! I'd be 100% using Tidefall until I put my hands on BotEP. I was just planning this sword as my end game. Here is what I've been thinking. Focus generation. 1 + (0.25+0.25+0.2+0.33) Base, Talisman of the Unconquerable, Garow Galon, Draining Whip. = 2.03 Action speed. 0,97 - 1,08ish Damage 1 + (0.55+0.2+0.2+0.15+0.15+0.85) Legendary, Biting Whip, Savage Attack, Two-Handed Style, Apprentice's Sneak Attack, MIG (can actually be more with buffs) = 3.10 I don't know how Lash and Elemental talent works yet, oh also Aefyllath Ues Mith Fyr. Then + Crit (The Merciless Hand and such.) The idea is to build focus quickly. Generally speaking I think Tidefall is a better weapon and I'd be using it, but just curious to see a focus oriented build in action.

Very good point. As for Tidefall, can it become legendary and receive a lash? It doesn't have speed mod (no 0 recovery). It certainly can be the best DPS melee weapon, especially for barb the way I see it. But it's not the best for generating focus. Tidefall was my first choice of weapon, but then I decided to go for Blade of the Endless Paths for these reasons.

I've edited my post to cover your last post. But just out of curiosity, say I give the Royal Dead Fire Cannonner to my Cipher which WILL be great, then for one I'd need to give him Scion of Flames, no problem. But then, what about the unused stats? Maegfolc Skull sounds really, really strong. And I was thinking about Ring of Thorns or the boots. So I'd be kinda wasting 3 MIG and 3 DEX... Still Firebrand is awesome. Unless I gave the namely items to other party members, then the question is, is this belt > than Ring of Thorns + Maegfolc Skull?

Was a typo. I meant MIG 20, CON 8, DEX 12, PER 10, INT 18, RES 10, then I kinda added the +4 from the boots. Hmmm, critical with spells sounds delicious. Well I'll more or less each attribute point value, assuming it's a lv 16 character. 1 CON worth about 10.5 endurance. (rounded down) 1 DEX worth about 0,023s at 16 DEX to 0,036s at DEX 7, faster action speed. (the law of diminishing return, also means the lower it gets I get the opposite effect, of higher penalty.) Generally speaking, the first 4 DEX dump worth about 0,096s. (Time Parasite or Potion, would worth more otherwise) 1 PER worth 1 ACC. 1 RES worth 1 Deflection + 3 Concentration. (I don't want to dump concentration) I'll try first Boeroer's ideas, then I'll take a look about what I'll do with PER. Does the +6 ACC makes such a big difference by late game? Sure early game +6 ACC is amazing, but when you're lv 16... Also my goal would be to abuse the team ACC support bonuses. Besides, it's only weapon ACC, not spell ACC. Was thinking. 2. Greater Focus 4. Biting Whip 6. Draining Whip 8. Outlander's Frenzy (Can respec later, but early game +3 MIG, 2 CON and 25% action speed before time parasite, that's cool) 10. Two-Handed Style 12. Savage Attack 14. Apprentice's Sneak Attack 16. Psychic Backlash (maybe?) or Scion of Flames instead. I think you get the idea where I am going with this build. Oh yeah, I'll not be taking her at all, if I chose a rogue as the last party member. Not worthy it. Ain't that a nasty little thing? Loved it as well. Does the cone damage build focus per hit?

Really interesting stuff. Certainly something to look for. Well, the main and only problem about Inspiring Radiance is 1 per encounter + short duration, so in order to get most of it, I think a extremely damage oriented party would be in order. That's why I didn't even added it to my ACC. I may be wrong, but my reasoning when it comes to cipher is. Since it gets focus from dealing damage, consequently it grows stronger the longer the battle lasts. A paladin, priest and Chanter, while all of those provide amazing support buffs to enhance my cipher thus focus generation, they're all not big hitters. Meaning, the battles will tend to last a bit longer, thus Inspiring Radiance won't that impactful, the way I see it. ____ So guys, before I get into the gear, I need to finish up my party composition. 1. Cipher. 2. Pallegina 3. Durance. I believe Pallegina and Durance are the most important key choices than the rest, due buffs to damage, acc and action speed, healing and immunities. Now comes the second half, I may be wrong, but I believe the longer the battle last, the stronger the cipher gets. Likewise that's how the Chanter works in my mind, if the battle ends too quickly they're less useful than in longer battles. Also due buffs, he's a cipher/party enhancer. For that reason kana would be a solid addition. 4. Kana There's just something appealing with 2 cipher party that I want to try on. 5. Grieving Mother Last member has to have synergy with the rest of the team. The way I see it, Ranged cipher kinda sucks building focus. Reapning Knives would be a solution to that problem. I am torn between Barb (if his AoE generate focus) or Rogue (adventurer) Also, while on GM, I was thinking about giving her 2 ranged weapon. 1. A Bluderbuss with DR bypass. 2. A Warbow with speed mod. Quick switch talent. So she can immediately build some focus from the get go, and then keep steady with the bow + Kana's chant and Pallegina's action speed buffs/acc. Once I have this cleared out, I'll start thinking about gear distribution.

Hmmm, that's very interesting, by the looks of it, I'll be able to dump PER in favor of other stats, when the time comes. Do you know if the ripose counter attack will always land a hit or does it rolls a dice of accuracy, of which can miss,graze,hit.crit? That's a really interesting idea, I can even think about gearing her with reflection items, with a maxed deflection build. Also, would reflection trigger, if the enemy miss the hit? Or only counts if grazes/hit/crit? Well, IDK about monk, don't like em astatically. Swift aim increases melee action speed? Hmmm... Yes her armor adds a lot of encumbrance, I've run a speed test. With Two Weapon + durganized weapon/armor + random speed buff talent/party, she can almost reach zero recovery. With speed mods, she definitely will be able to. However, since she'll lose the durganized + speed mods from weapons as soon she gets reaping knives... Well... Yeah... Not ideal. One thing for sure, if I'd pick a rogue, it has to be a custom adventurer. Generally speaking, I like the full attack, I like the huge damage boost, and I like the over killing damage from finish blow to build focus. So it ain't wasted. Question, does auto-attack AoE damage generate focus, if using reaping knives? Thinking about how good a barb would be. Good point, I recently did a restart, but I was using this very gloves, and man.. My Cipher was doing tons of damage with a Firebrand! At early game for sure, I'd use these gloves, however late game... Here is my argument for not using it. With Gauntlet's of Swiftness I get 0,33s reduction without speed buffs, and 0,13s buffed with time parasite or similar. So it's a quite substantial difference. I do agree completely about pierce immunity however, that's why I am also thinking about my secondary weapon. Was flirting with Tidefall... I mean, Life drain... Nice! But then, if I do add an barb on the team, (because you have made a very compelling argument) they're probably the best user of Tidefall. So maybe I could go with 2W Sabers or maybe another 2H or maybe a ranged weapon... I honestly have absolutely no idea of which ranged weapon to choose. Well, in any case, if I run against immune to pierce, I can rely on magic and the secondary weapon. I torn with this very doubt about giving Deadfire Cannonner to my cipher or not. The reason to not give to him, is that I can achieve the same stat bonuses, while other team members would be lacking in stats. For example Maegfolc Skull + Girdle of Eoten Constitution + Talisman of the Unconquerable. To further add into my argument, I am also giving about giving Pallegina Scion of Flames... So... Bottom line, I know it's very useful to my cipher, but I also can see how useful it would be to other party members. I am torn here.

Planning a Melee Cipher for PotD. Still new to the game, haven't finished a single playthrough yet, hence a few doubts. Stats: MIG 18, CON 8, DEX 16, PER 10, INT 16, RES 10. ACC debuffs, with psychovampiric Shield at early game, this character is surprisingly very tanky, better than Edér even. Also worth to mention, that I have a neck with +15 max endurance, fulvanus +1 CON boots, and there's food that gives +10 Endurance and +2 CON at Gilden Vale inn. So this Cipher is actually the second highest Endurance in the party, at low levels. This character can reach 0 Recovery with Time Parasite or Potion of Deleterious Alacrity of Motion + Gauntlet's of Swift Action + Durganized Weapon/Armor + Weapon Speed Mod. At that point, I'd respec dumping DEX (-4) in favor of MIG(+2) and INT(+2), because at that point I'd be hitting once every 1,01s. Also, I was thinking about giving him the +4 DEX boots. I am still unsure how my final stats will look like, I mean, I am trying to figure out what I can dump and what could give a better return. I believe my weapon ACC would allow me to dump PER, but then my spell may not have enough ACC, by dumping PER I could raise either CON or DEX... Or I could dump even more CON or DEX. I suppose at lv 16, those raw stats would be true. Weapon ACC: 95 (Legendary/unbuffed) to 115 - 126 buffed. (Priest 5, Paladin 6, Borrowed Instinct 20) Spell ACC: 80 unbuffed to 111 buffed vs Will. Following this table, I'd end with maxed MIG and INT. The remaining is free to relocate for optimization. Generally speaking I don't think I am too far off, of my target goal. (More or less MIG 20, CON 8, DEX 16, PER 10, INT 18, RES 10. Before Gear and permanent stat boost.) Gear: Since I don't have my party planned, I also don't have things set in stone, except from a few key items. Armor: He Carries Many Scars (maybe?) Hands: Gauntlets of Swift Action Boots: Viettro's Formal Footwear Weapon: Blade of the Endless Paths (Can it become legendary and receive a lash?) So I've been thinking about possible party combinations. 1. Cipher 2. Pallegina 3. Durance 4. Kana 5. Grieving Mother 6. Devil of Caroc. The reasoning behind this is. Pally will be my frontline tanker, she has 2 speed modifiers to help build focus to cast Time Parasite, also ACC aura. Priest gives cool buffs and healing. I think those 2 are the most important from the build composition, others aren't as essential I think. Kana for more buffs, healing, cc and summons. Also will be essential to help GM build more focus from afar. Grieving Mother (Whisper of Treason/Ring Leader, Going Between and Phantom Foes) Going between will make my Cipher immortal against most non boss encounters, Phantom will trigger more damage from survival which means focus, also has synergy with sneak attack ruleset. Devil of Caroc for Reaping Knives from GM, so she can build focus better. The last 3 could be completely replaced by a different combination the way I see it.