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  1. Turkish Army Forces have 715k soldiers under the name after the count at May 2012. It's second biggest army at NATO after US forces and Syria has 220k. Couldn't find a source for that though. Some say, they have 400k soldiers in their borders. Also, I'm not sure about whose technology better than other, but Syria has chemical weapons that they can use unlike Turkey.
  2. This is not Turkish war drums or army. This is an army created recently by a local Kurdish government at Syria. @Hurlshot I believe, Turkey would be more succesful about USA but, there is a high possibility if Turkey invades Syria hypothetically, Turkey would try to end separatist kurdish forces located at North of Syria. And not just that, in my opinion, Turkey might try to change the borders as well, like moving borders downward for half an mile or so. If you ask me why, it's because of the today's borders. They are really worst kind of borders where you can't control your borders. Anybody can get in and get out easily, because you can't put a wire mesh. I'm not sure how to explain it, but think it this way. There are lots of mountains at south-east of Turkey, and just below that there is Syria border. So you can neither put a post that to protect who enters inside your border or not, for both sides nor you can put a mesh wire to prevent them to get in.
  3. Well, the problem would be international first of all. And I don't think that would be good for Syria, but I believe the gain of Syria or purpose of Syria at the moment is, proving that "What's happening at Syria is internal problem of Syria, Turkey stay away from Syria's internal problems and stop helping Syrian people runing away from borders as well as lend the Syrian people and rebels to us from your country.". I would go for the second option that I gave. Beside that they might be trying to prove that in political and military ways, they are upper classman of Turkey. So Turkey should respect them. That would be the second purpose or so.
  4. Ah, about that, people think that Syrian government is attacking Turkey. And they don't think it's accidental. At first, people wanted to believe they were accidental but today when a person open a newspaper page and read, they would see this "8 times can't be an accident." and stuff like that on the titles. They believe, Syria is try and see if Turkey has the heart to attack back or maybe even start up a fight. Most of them at least thinks that way.
  5. Well, there are two kind of people in Turkey about that. One side is against the government as in whatever they do (Or that's the feeling that I got with last acts) and second are supporting the government with whatever they do. The first side was telling that "Government is ****ty, why they don't response? " until Turkey responded against Syria. Now they say "Why Turkey gave response to Syria, do they want war? There shouldn't be a war and etc." Second side is acting more careful, they don't want war but still supporting the government no matter what I believe. But if you want a general view, people don't want a war. And against it. But they don't want Syria to let their mortar bombs land in Turkey as well.
  6. @Zoraptor I must apologize, I believe the information has been given wrong from the place that I read about the crash. Just now, I have checked the Territorial waters. And it's 12 miles, and you might be right about there. Then that means Syria, shot the plane inside their borders. And, it's really interesting how much you know about Jet's. : D And today another 3 bombs has fallen into South of Turkey.
  7. Well, I have mentioned that, it's a bit complicated. From my side, as a Turkish person that's how it is. From side of a Kurdish person it's that way. But if you check out the governments movements at the moment, like I have mentioned up there. You can see that government is trying to solve their problems while they don't want it to be solved. Beside these, there are some other offerings. Such as giving 3 city to Kurdish people and letting "all" of them live there. But they don't accept this either. To make this clear, let me explain it this way. Let's say Indians from Americans are organizing and rebelling as America because they were the owner of the place before people came there. Would you call them terrorist or let them get the landscape they want? Instead, Indians living at US, accepts that they are "US citizen" unlike kurdish people. I want to mention that, I put some subjective view of mine up there. So it might not be all true. I'm just trying to give the view of what's happening exactly. I have Kurdish friends and Turkish friends like I'm. And I don't have a problem with Kurdish people but the way separatists act. Killing people is not a way to solve problem. They should stop attacking Turkey.
  8. @Gfted1 Well, overall if we think that way, every country looks for their own gain at everywhere. But that doesn't change the fact, they didn't need to shoot the plane. Because if everybody shooted aircrafts like that, there wouldn't be any aircraft left on the world mate. =) Anyway, like I have mentioned, I'm not waiting for war because of this authorization. Only if Syria would get in our land or only if Syria made a huge attack "accidently" there would be war.
  9. Well, I'm a person who lives in Turkey and let me tell you some stuff that I know by myself and my friends living at these places.Because there are some stuff you have mistaken about. Let me inform you about that. First of all, plane-accident stuff. It was an experimental flight, to check if the new radar program was working well. Our pilots got into Syrian borders for few seconds because of the mistake of Radar. So they fixed the Radar right away, but Syrian forces, without any hesitation or warning, shot Turkey's plane right away. They were neither so deep inside Syria, or neither they were on the Syrian landscape. They were taking their way on the Mediterenean Sea. After the plane got shot, the question was where did it get shot? Was it in Syrian borders or International Territorial Waters? Nobody knows where exactly, but crashed Turkish plane found at International Territorial Waters. The thing was crashside was 13 miles away from landscape, if we make a mathematical calculation that is equal to 12 miles away from Syrian Territorial Waters. How can the crash site locate at there, if the plane didn't get shot right away somewhere 5 miles around the actual crashside. But Turkish government accepted Syrian's mistake and didn't call anything. This happened at June. And since August, Syrian Forces were bombing places in Turkey's border. Until the one before last one (Which happened this morning) there wasn't any dead in these bombings. So Turkey was keeping it cool and accepting that mistakes can happen. But when people died, Turkey changed it's attitude. Because, the military engagement rules changed when Turkey's plane got shot down. The new rule says that, if there is a direct hit from another country, the forces located on that area can right away answer back to the country right away. That's what that is. Today another bomb fell down to Turkey's borders and Turkey called the answer. Let me go for another topic, this one is about Kurdish separatist which are also Terrorists that Turkey call. This is one complicated topic we can say. Because the stuff begins like 40 years ago, where Turkish government decides to secretly kill Kurdish people at Southeast of Turkey. At these times, it was right thing to do. Getting rebel against the government, but today it is not. Because when you check Turkey's politics today, you would have noticed, for 10 years the government is trying to find a way to solve the problem and get back the Kurdish people's heart. You can see the new laws just made for people who seperated and you can even check out the Oslo Process. And against these, the Kurdish seperatist, kept attacking to Turkish Military Forces, killing them over and over again, not just that but they kept bombing the places where civilians live and stuff. And even against that, people living in Turkey (Most of them) still keeps helping Kurdish people all over Turkey. Sending them food when they need, clothes. Because the southeast side of Turkey is really poor. It's poor because Kurdish Seperatist forces doesn't let the government build anything there. Like factories for people to work. Or they simply kill the school teachers living there or threaten them. They also threaten most of the innocent civilians living there and get what's left of their food, money, clothes. That's really complicated matter, but from what I see, my opinion is, if there would be a war (Which I don't think it will happen) the Kurdish people won't attack Turkish military force. But the seperatist ones, which are Terrorist might. That's another topic. And about the last topic, permitting military forces to enter "another country" , I will explain some more stuff and finish. I took it in brackets, because that's written like that in the permitting form for military. That doesn't mean, Turkey wants to attack somebody random but if you think over a bit a little, that would mean "We don't want to start a war with Syria, but we can start it. So to prove that we don't want it, we are not going to specifically say "Syria" in the permitting law." Since Turkey has good relations with Turkey's border countries, that's only way to say it. Second purpose of the permitation was that, Syria was constantly firing bombs over Turkey and not all that but also some soldiers were using their rifles to shot Syrian Seperatist but since they were shooting in this direction, the bullets were getting inside of Turkey. So that is a warning, but not a war starter. Like you got a large bat in your hand and start walking in your neighborhood, people would stay away from you if you don't like them. Because they would be scared, that you will hit them. But just because you got a bat in your hand, that doesn't mean you will go and start fighting with people that you don't like. Maybe, you were just going to play baseball or giving back the bat because you didn't like it. If we say the bat is permitation and the boy who carries it Turkey as well as the Syria the boy Turkey doesn't like. Do you think, Syria would attack the Turkey? So it's a warning. I don't think there will be a war really. But if there will be one. Turkey will be ready for it. And believe that, Turkey is holding itself back and tries diplomacy as much as it can.
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