Nemesis7884 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 It's not a big deal for most martial classes because they have hardly options - but on magic class this is really annoying... for example chanters where you're just given the most useless phrase/options.....so it would be really nice if i could actually choose which one i want... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptenar Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 You can retrain characters at an inn if you want full control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdn Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 You can retrain characters at an inn if you want full control. Even the starting abilities? When I tried respecing at a vendor, my main character couldn't change the first ability. Maybe it only applies to the other characters though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koth Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 No you can't change their starting ability even after a respec, you're right... But to be honest, does it really matter? By late game you're pack of demi-gods anyway. Once ability choice doesn't affect all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 It's not a big deal for most martial classes because they have hardly options - but on magic class this is really annoying... for example chanters where you're just given the most useless phrase/options.....so it would be really nice if i could actually choose which one i want... You'll take those starting abilities and ****ty attribute scores and like them! Popular defenses of this stupid practice: 1) Stop acting so entitled, just enjoy the game! 2) The companions are higher level than custom ones so it's ok! 3) Just use mods! 4) Just use console commands, achievements don't matter! 5) Developer choices matter more than your gaming experience! 6) You might choose attributes/abilities that don't fit the character! 7) I can complete the game on POTD without optimized attributes/abilities! And many more 4 Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7884 Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 i just dont like having abilities picked for me i don't want and will never use while on the same level there are some i like - as said, its no big deal for martial classes where often you kinda have to pick those because there is nothing else there - but for chanter etc. you have lots of options... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkothTheFeared Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 It's not a big deal for most martial classes because they have hardly options - but on magic class this is really annoying... for example chanters where you're just given the most useless phrase/options.....so it would be really nice if i could actually choose which one i want... You'll take those starting abilities and ****ty attribute scores and like them! Popular defenses of this stupid practice: 1) Stop acting so entitled, just enjoy the game! 2) The companions are higher level than custom ones so it's ok! 3) Just use mods! 4) Just use console commands, achievements don't matter! 5) Developer choices matter more than your gaming experience! 6) You might choose attributes/abilities that don't fit the character! 7) I can complete the game on POTD without optimized attributes/abilities! And many more It doesn't really help anyone to strawman people's arguments. I may even agree with you, but this isn't helpful feedback. 1 Want to play a dragon in Deadfire? Try my subclass mod here!https://www.nexusmods.com/pillarsofeternity2/mods/76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I'm not straw manning anyone, these are actual arguments I've had thrown at me, as well as things Josh has said publicly Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daven Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) It's not a big deal for most martial classes because they have hardly options - but on magic class this is really annoying... for example chanters where you're just given the most useless phrase/options.....so it would be really nice if i could actually choose which one i want... You'll take those starting abilities and ****ty attribute scores and like them! Popular defenses of this stupid practice: 1) Stop acting so entitled, just enjoy the game! 2) The companions are higher level than custom ones so it's ok! 3) Just use mods! 4) Just use console commands, achievements don't matter! 5) Developer choices matter more than your gaming experience! 6) You might choose attributes/abilities that don't fit the character! 7) I can complete the game on POTD without optimized attributes/abilities! And many more It doesn't really help anyone to strawman people's arguments. I may even agree with you, but this isn't helpful feedback. It was amusing though, gotta 'av a laff init mush. Edited May 15, 2018 by daven nowt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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