Bugged Wolf Companion Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Does anyone know by how much Abraham the dog pet reduces the armour penalty recovery time? The tool tip does say nothing about the percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Not even your weapon’s tooltip? Hovering on the recovery time should give you a breakdown of what’s affecting it. "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) With Cutthroat Cosmo it depends on the type of armor. For example mail drops from 35% to 19%. You can see it in your weapon's tooltip (recovery). If you hover over it the armor penalty is lower than usual. Edited May 11, 2018 by Boeroer 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugged Wolf Companion Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Thanks a lot i wasnt aware that its shown in the weapon tool tip. 17% for Mails thats probably the best pet in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactot Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Thanks a lot i wasnt aware that its shown in the weapon tool tip. 17% for Mails thats probably the best pet in the game. Where'd you get Abraham? I haven't seen him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugged Wolf Companion Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) In the second floor of a building in Neketaka (First Zone) i cant remember if it was the Inn or one of the Noble Houses. Edited May 11, 2018 by Bugged Wolf Companion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifarmpandas Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 It's on top of the Luminous Mill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valamyr Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) I just found Abraham and its probably a gradual reduction because I tested it with various armor types and the numbers makes sense for all armors overall (it slices .2 seconds for 20% armors, .3 for 35% and .4 for 55% armors when using dual sabers) BUT there's one tiny obvious bug: if youre naked or using robes, then somehow you are .1 slower with this pet equipped than if you used another or none. Do NOT use this pet if you dont actually have armor penalties hehe. Edited June 18, 2018 by Valamyr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophiuchus Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I just found Abraham and its probably a gradual reduction because I tested it with various armor types and the numbers makes sense for all armors overall (it slices .2 seconds for 20% armors, .3 for 35% and .4 for 55% armors when using dual sabers) BUT there's one tiny obvious bug: if youre naked or using robes, then somehow you are .1 slower with this pet equipped than if you used another or none. Do NOT use this pet if you dont actually have armor penalties hehe. For the sake of almighty balance, there should be a pet that gives you a bonus while wearing nothin' at all. Slash and Burn: A Warlock Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylon Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 It gives exactly the same bonus as Armored Grace talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 It gives exactly the same bonus as Armored Grace talent. Jesus. So the best pet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Thanks a lot i wasnt aware that its shown in the weapon tool tip. 17% for Mails thats probably the best pet in the game. I still don't see the reduction on the tool tip for Abraham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus_Blackfeather Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Thanks a lot i wasnt aware that its shown in the weapon tool tip. 17% for Mails thats probably the best pet in the game. I still don't see the reduction on the tool tip for Abraham. The math is already done for you - it's like Armored Grace. Look at the Armor recovery penalty, it should be lower. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunehunter Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Abraham is the best pet in the game... reduce armor recovery + heal on kill... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 You can also hover over your equipped weapons' recovery number (right-click on your weapons, hover over recovery). The tooltip-window will list all influences. 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunehunter Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Can anyone calculate how much DEX the armor grace worth on heavy/medium/light armor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Dex affects attack speed as well as recovery. Do you only want to compare recovery reduction? Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunehunter Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Dex affects attack speed as well as recovery. Do you only want to compare recovery reduction? Yeah for martial classes. Only compare recovery reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Before doing math: maybe this thing from MaxQuest is sufficient? https://naijaro.github.io/deadfire-speed-calculator/ Afaik the claculations and values of Armored Grace and Cutthroat Cosmo/Abraham haven't changed, have they? Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunehunter Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Before doing math: maybe this thing from MaxQuest is sufficient? https://naijaro.github.io/deadfire-speed-calculator/ Afaik the claculations and values of Armored Grace and Cutthroat Cosmo/Abraham haven't changed, have they? Haven't changed, so I used that tool (very nice tool thanks to @MaxQuest), the pet -% recovery time worth around 7 DEX/heavy, 5 DEX/medium and 4 DEX/light, imo it's far better than other pets which gives +1 STATS isn't it? Edited September 19, 2018 by dunehunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Depends on your build. But for a weapon user I'd say it's a very nice pet. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Before doing math: maybe this thing from MaxQuest is sufficient? https://naijaro.github.io/deadfire-speed-calculator/ Afaik the claculations and values of Armored Grace and Cutthroat Cosmo/Abraham haven't changed, have they? Haven't changed, so I used that tool (very nice tool thanks to @MaxQuest), the pet -% recovery time worth around 7 DEX/heavy, 5 DEX/medium and 4 DEX/light, imo it's far better than other pets which gives +1 STATS isn't it? Is that what Abraham gives? Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Thanks a lot i wasnt aware that its shown in the weapon tool tip. 17% for Mails thats probably the best pet in the game. I still don't see the reduction on the tool tip for Abraham. The math is already done for you - it's like Armored Grace. Look at the Armor recovery penalty, it should be lower. Ok, I will check again when I re-start the game. (I went down the Old City lift at level 5, and I didn't realize it stayed up only for half a day; so I had to re-start.) But when I checked it on the armor tool tip, the recovery time was the same - regardless of whether I equipped Abraham or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haplok Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Maybe you were stealthed? Then the recovery is boosted so much, that individual effects are insignificant. Or maybe you were looking at another character. Pet's "main" powers affect only the main char (secondary effects are party wide). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Maybe you were stealthed? Then the recovery is boosted so much, that individual effects are insignificant. Or maybe you were looking at another character. Pet's "main" powers affect only the main char (secondary effects are party wide). Neither stealthed, and I was looking at the main character. But let me check again once I re-start. And thanks for the note on only the secondary effects influencing other members; I didn't know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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