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Do you planning to play solo ? If yes then, you sure should go with scordeo's + palm shield, with this setup your recovery time will come from scrodeo and time parasite, and attack speed from DW. Palm shield will give you +20 Deflection

You also needed cloak that scaled with history and bracers that give you +7 to deflection

From stats you only need int, dext, perception and as start bonus gift of machine,  With Durance Effigy's Resentment . I suggest at least 14 CON instead of might
The real problem for this setup only int immune guys and guys with high fortitude (for dragons take helm that give you +10 to acc, for fampyr amulet + saber). 
I'm not sure about Deadly Deadfire, but normal PotD you should complete without problems 
 

The Red Hand (inactive slot)+Kitchen Stove!!!!+ any good small shield or shield that does not reduce accuracy too much for defense (active slot)+electric helm!!!!+ elementalist's bracers!!!!! (cast jolting touch)= 40% lash on thunderous report = big damage

 

don't feel like elaborating as this may not be in 1.2 as it is now but it can be done and is not class specific really. 

 

bye bye queen - Potd upscaled deadly deadfire HARDCORE version in one shot

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does anyone notice, that amira wing wind spells add cipher focus? Wilting wind cast at the begining of the fight made max focus, so for Ascendant it's quite a must have.



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Have you tried Monk/Cipher? OP as hell

 

Balance OBS? Where?



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Have you tried Monk/Cipher? OP as hell

 

Balance OBS? Where?

I mean I am personally more of a rogue than a monk fan. But I tried that Thunderous Report from Kitchen Stove trick with an Assassin/Ascendant from stealth and result was like 250 fire+250 shock (500 damage) in a large cone aoe at the start of fight.

 

so you get like a 400-500 aoe damage cone nuke as an assassin/cipher 1/encounter.

 

There might be a better class than cipher to use that combo with assassin+something else, but cipher is not a bad choice as it instantly gives you max focus and the extra damage addition from soulwhip adds to the assassin alpha strike. 


Edited by 1TTFFSSE, 03 July 2018 - 09:54 AM.


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Have you tried Monk/Cipher? OP as hell

 

Balance OBS? Where?

I mean I am personally more of a rogue than a monk fan. But I tried that Thunderous Report from Kitchen Stove trick with an Assassin/Ascendant from stealth and result was like 250 fire+250 shock (500 damage) in a large cone aoe at the start of fight.

 

so you get like a 400-500 aoe damage cone nuke as an assassin/cipher 1/encounter.

 

There might be a better class than cipher to use that combo with assassin+something else, but cipher is not a bad choice as it instantly gives you max focus and the extra damage addition from soulwhip adds to the assassin alpha strike. 

 

Cipher Assasin is very nice combo, probably highest accuracy in the game. In 1.2 brilliant return, so with proper mod we can make perma invisible char :)



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Have you tried Monk/Cipher? OP as hell

 

Balance OBS? Where?

I mean I am personally more of a rogue than a monk fan. But I tried that Thunderous Report from Kitchen Stove trick with an Assassin/Ascendant from stealth and result was like 250 fire+250 shock (500 damage) in a large cone aoe at the start of fight.

 

so you get like a 400-500 aoe damage cone nuke as an assassin/cipher 1/encounter.

 

There might be a better class than cipher to use that combo with assassin+something else, but cipher is not a bad choice as it instantly gives you max focus and the extra damage addition from soulwhip adds to the assassin alpha strike. 

 

Cipher Assasin is very nice combo, probably highest accuracy in the game. In 1.2 brilliant return, so with proper mod we can make perma invisible char :)

 

 

You cant use it on yourself

 

Also it isnt monk so weak by default

 

Edit: nvm you said with mod

 

Edit2: Dont waste ur time with mods for useless classes dl mods for monk


Edited by araj123, 03 July 2018 - 10:00 AM.


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Someone's growing obsessed with Monks, I see.



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Do you planning to play solo ? If yes then, you sure should go with scordeo's + palm shield, with this setup your recovery time will come from scrodeo and time parasite, and attack speed from DW. Palm shield will give you +20 Deflection

You also needed cloak that scaled with history and bracers that give you +7 to deflection

From stats you only need int, dext, perception and as start bonus gift of machine, With Durance Effigy's Resentment . I suggest at least 14 CON instead of might
The real problem for this setup only int immune guys and guys with high fortitude (for dragons take helm that give you +10 to acc, for fampyr amulet + saber).
I'm not sure about Deadly Deadfire, but normal PotD you should complete without problems

The Red Hand (inactive slot)+Kitchen Stove!!!!+ any good small shield or shield that does not reduce accuracy too much for defense (active slot)+electric helm!!!!+ elementalist's bracers!!!!! (cast jolting touch)= 40% lash on thunderous report = big damage

don't feel like elaborating as this may not be in 1.2 as it is now but it can be done and is not class specific really.

bye bye queen - Potd upscaled deadly deadfire HARDCORE version in one shot
quennk.jpg

You can also assasinate with Thunderous Report, stacking that with your build and it will be even more powerful. I don’t remember if death blow works too, but worth a try.
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This is the thing I am talking about. How to be a true "assassin" and really "assassinate" the queen. Hardcore Deadly Deadfire installed by the way for the sake of it no other mods. 

 

 

 


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I don't know how relevant this is anymore (I guess half as effective), but pre- time parasite nerf, an ascendant cipher in light armor and decent dex used to be able to hit ascendancy, then time parasite a group and proceed to machine-gun any cipher power imaginable at a blistering pace. Quite deadly and IMO made cipher one of the better single class classes in the game. Anyone tried it recently? Throwing disintegrates and amplified waves on everybody is serious business.



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I don't know how relevant this is anymore (I guess half as effective), but pre- time parasite nerf, an ascendant cipher in light armor and decent dex used to be able to hit ascendancy, then time parasite a group and proceed to machine-gun any cipher power imaginable at a blistering pace. Quite deadly and IMO made cipher one of the better single class classes in the game. Anyone tried it recently? Throwing disintegrates and amplified waves on everybody is serious business.

from my test it's not working in 1.1, always around 1sec pause time, and cipher time parasite override other source of speed like the one from dragons dowry (which will be nerfed in 1.2) Still solo cipher was quite fast. Also death of 1000 cuts seems to be much better than desinteragtion







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