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So Obsidian Writer Responsible for Eder "Resigns" and it appears this is similar situation to Firedorn Limerick

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Yeah why would you ask somebody to resign because you find their views offensive and then hire them back?



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If he left because he was asked to resign, that would sound like those who had issue with his views (am I right that this is the issue?) at Obsidian won out. But here he is freelancing on Deadfire, and now people are pursuing him to ruffle up what effect? To maliciously undermine his livelihood?

 

This play looks bad.

 

There is possibility that Obsidian is just moving him to freelance to avoid the PR from the Gaming Journos who frankly love to play Heroes without actually doing anything.   Essentially Obsidian attempt to  have their cake and eat it too. I DONT know  if its true Its Possibility throught.



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Eh the limerick situation isnt really about removal but about reason for removal. 

 

 

They did not write the limerick. It was not part of the game.

 

 

They removed it from game after it was arleady added there because of a pitchforks.

Firedorn would prefered to have it remain but he  did obsidian favor and allowed them to remove it so they avoid the PR ****storm.



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Gamerghazi by posting personal details.  Doxing is not looked upon very kindly.

 

 

Ok. But he left Obsidian awhile ago right? When did this doxing occur?



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Is Eric Fenstermaker still writing Edér in Deadfire? I had heard he'd left Obsidian but had agreed to write Edér (presumably as a contractor). Hopefully that's still the case since Edér was one of the better written characters in Pillars.

 

As for the main topic do we actually know that's why Eric was fired/pushed, or is it just speculation? Without knowing the answer to this question, there's not a lot to say.

 

we dont know 100% but we know Writer Resigned  and its Most Propably the Eder one.

Dont quote me on that throught. Gamerghazi took down their post before i could check everything.



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If he left because he was asked to resign, that would sound like those who had issue with his views (am I right that this is the issue?) at Obsidian won out. But here he is freelancing on Deadfire, and now people are pursuing him to ruffle up what effect? To maliciously undermine his livelihood?

 

This play looks bad.

 

There is possibility that Obsidian is just moving him to freelance to avoid the PR from the Gaming Journos who frankly love to play Heroes without actually doing anything.   Essentially Obsidian attempt to  have their cake and eat it too. I DONT know  if its true Its Possibility throught.

 

 

Many things are a possibility. I don't think wanting to avoid controversy because of some backer fluff you didn't write is equivalent to forcing out people who did nothing wrong besides have views away from work. Thinking one gives evidence for the possibility for the other is more than a bit paranoid.



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Yeah why would you ask somebody to resign because you find their views offensive and then hire them back?

 

Claim he resigned, hire him on as contractor. Mob disperses thinking they won, While obsidian is not impacted.

Essentially Loudly proclaim he is no Longer in Obsidian,  quitly hire as contractor.



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If he left because he was asked to resign, that would sound like those who had issue with his views (am I right that this is the issue?) at Obsidian won out. But here he is freelancing on Deadfire, and now people are pursuing him to ruffle up what effect? To maliciously undermine his livelihood?

 

This play looks bad.

 

There is possibility that Obsidian is just moving him to freelance to avoid the PR from the Gaming Journos who frankly love to play Heroes without actually doing anything.   Essentially Obsidian attempt to  have their cake and eat it too. I DONT know  if its true Its Possibility throught.

 

 

Many things are a possibility. I don't think wanting to avoid controversy because of some backer fluff you didn't write is equivalent to forcing out people who did nothing wrong besides have views away from work. Thinking one gives evidence for the possibility for the other is more than a bit paranoid.

 

 

No its no equivalent i was just saying it was Obsidian backing down over backlash, and  they may be going it again.

Essentially just precedents not complete similarity.



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Uh... the writer in question is NOT Eric Fenstermaker, folks.

 

Please don't start rumors if you don't have all the facts.



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Uh... the writer in question is NOT Eric Fenstermaker, folks.

 

Please don't start rumors if you don't have all the facts.

 

Wait which one is it If its not him ? It seems to me its Definitely Eric

Anyways If you are right(Im not sure about that)that actually confirms the rest with writer being  resigned because of his views.



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Okay so apparently  Eders writer resigned or was resigned.

 

It's different person affected: that from codex news  "Obsidian have contracted none other than the Codex's own sser to help with the writing, on account of his work on Battle Brothers"



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Uh... the writer in question is NOT Eric Fenstermaker, folks.

 

Please don't start rumors if you don't have all the facts.

 

My apologies, I was going off the OP since Eric was Edér's writer. 



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Yeah why would you ask somebody to resign because you find their views offensive and then hire them back?

 

Claim he resigned, hire him on as contractor. Mob disperses thinking they won, While obsidian is not impacted.

Essentially Loudly proclaim he is no Longer in Obsidian,  quitly hire as contractor.

 

 

There was no mob though.



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Uh... the writer in question is NOT Eric Fenstermaker, folks.

 

Please don't start rumors if you don't have all the facts.

 

Wait which one is it If its not him ? It seems to me its Definitely Eric

Anyways If you are right(Im not sure about that)that actually confirms the rest with writer being  resigned because of his views.

 

 

It confirms nothing at all.



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Yeah why would you ask somebody to resign because you find their views offensive and then hire them back?

 

Claim he resigned, hire him on as contractor. Mob disperses thinking they won, While obsidian is not impacted.

Essentially Loudly proclaim he is no Longer in Obsidian,  quitly hire as contractor.

 

 

There was no mob though.

 

 

So what do you call people posting his Personal Details because they didnt like their opinion ?



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Wait which one is it If its not him ? It seems to me its Definitely Eric

Anyways If you are right(Im not sure about that)that actually confirms the rest with writer being  resigned because of his views.

What evidence is there that it's Eric exactly? Because i see none. Judging by his bio the guy in question lives in Texas and, if i'm understanding his signature correctly, a writer for Battle Brothers. 



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Uh... the writer in question is NOT Eric Fenstermaker, folks.

 

Please don't start rumors if you don't have all the facts.

 

Wait which one is it If its not him ? It seems to me its Definitely Eric

Anyways If you are right(Im not sure about that)that actually confirms the rest with writer being  resigned because of his views.

 

 

It confirms nothing at all.

 

 

Person who Claims himself informed only Protected Against the Part stating that Its eric. He said nothing about Writer fired for his opinion part. i think it would be brought if This incident was nonexistent.



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Wait which one is it If its not him ? It seems to me its Definitely Eric

Anyways If you are right(Im not sure about that)that actually confirms the rest with writer being  resigned because of his views.

What evidence is there that it's Eric exactly? Because i see none. Judging by his bio the guy in question lives in Texas and, if i'm understanding his signature correctly, a writer for Battle Brothers. 

 

 

http://archive.is/gs09Q



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No its no equivalent i was just saying it was Obsidian backing down over backlash, and  they may be going it again.

Essentially just precedents not complete similarity.

 

 

Obsidian did not back down because they did not write the controversial thing in question. I don't see why they should go to bat for somebody who is not them. They gave the guy a chance to respond and he did. And that was that.

 

Firing employees over stuff that is not even in your game is something else entirely. You are already insisting you have confirmation that what you say is true when you are not even sure who it is you are even talking about. 


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Uh... the writer in question is NOT Eric Fenstermaker, folks.

 

Please don't start rumors if you don't have all the facts.

 

Wait which one is it If its not him ? It seems to me its Definitely Eric

Anyways If you are right(Im not sure about that)that actually confirms the rest with writer being  resigned because of his views.

 

 

I'm not going to name names at this point since the whole thing needs to die, but here are the facts.

 

1) A writer was hired recently to do some contract writing work for Deadfire

2) That writer's posting history at RPG Codex was uncovered and posted by parties unknown

3) The writer decided he didn't want his opinions causing problems for Obsidian and resigned

4) There is NO evidence anyone at Obsidian asked him to resign


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