Deadly_Nightshade Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Also, because Trump mentioned it, it's not true that the counter-protesters didn't have a permit - they did. Plus, to say something I've said many times in this thread, the protesters on Friday were not peaceful - they attacked peaceful counter protesters without provocation while chanting Nazi phrases. I'm very curious why Trump thought they were peaceful (I suspect that he confused the Alt-Right Nazis and the UVA Students who were standing around the statue before they were swarmed with fire wielding ****s). "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 That's socialism 101. It's basically any extremism - communist or fascist. It's just that the alt-right are a bit better at the polite robbery of rights, property and liberty - and using their violent supporters more indirectly than anti-fa groups etc. Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Even the Russians, according to some reports, don't have a very good grasp on it, judging from Kuznetsov's track record. They have a poor grasp on it, and I don't think even the russians would claim the Kuznetsov to be a successful ship. When it sailed to Syria it was the other big ship (Pyotr Veliky) that was far more significant though ignored by the media, and the Kuznetsov was there just for training and evaluation even after all its theoretical time in service. They did have the unique problem of the Black Sea transit and the Montreux Convention barring aircraft carriers though, so it had to be designed oddly so they could claim it wasn't an actual carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckdevil Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 BLM should definitely do more to distance themselves from extremism, but their message is pretty dang tame compared to Neo-nazis and the KKK. Here is a look at what they say they stand for: http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/ As I said, not exactly crazy stuff. Now when that message gets overridden by violence and vandalism, they need to respond better. Just like I want to see Trump respond better. Only problem is without actions they are just words. They discussed here how Hitler was perceived still as one way bc of what he SAID but his actions showed something completely different. Until the words and actions line up, actions speak louder than words. Also I agree it's a slippery slope bc while it's ok and feels right to **** up a Nazi/KKK member, by the same standard the same outrage and actions directed at them should also be directed towards anyone who has said "death to whitey/cops/Muslims/Christian's/etc". Hate is hate. At least whoever came up with PC ideology was smart enough to impliment a "victimhood" and tried to change the meaning of racism to give themselves a way to do the same actions and intent without the penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 You know how noboby pays attention to what the folks in Poland have to say? Maybe we should: 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 thats East Europe for you. We just don't like anyone 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Also, because Trump mentioned it, it's not true that the counter-protesters didn't have a permit - they did. Plus, to say something I've said many times in this thread, the protesters on Friday were not peaceful - they attacked peaceful counter protesters without provocation while chanting Nazi phrases. I'm very curious why Trump thought they were peaceful (I suspect that he confused the Alt-Right Nazis and the UVA Students who were standing around the statue before they were swarmed with fire wielding ****s). Funniest thing about that spiel he gave was saying that he needed to wait for facts before speaking. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Right wing politics: Both sides are equally bad, the alt-left is encouraging them by giving up $20. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Right wing politics: Both sides are equally bad, the alt-left is encouraging them by giving up $20. I know you're trying to be funny, but alt-left isn't even a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 That's the joke "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Woah, talk about pouring gasoline on fire! Baltimore removes Confederate statues (CNN) There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Woah, talk about pouring gasoline on fire! Baltimore removes Confederate statues (CNN) Nah, the white supremacists are the gasoline. A gasoline that seeks out sparks. Good on Baltimore though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Woah, talk about pouring gasoline on fire! Baltimore removes Confederate statues (CNN) Just like ISIS. Somehow. They're moving some to cemeteries for the rebel dead, so BFD. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Woah, talk about pouring gasoline on fire! Baltimore removes Confederate statues (CNN) Just like ISIS. Somehow. They're moving some to cemeteries for the rebel dead, so BFD. I don't think ISIS moved anything to cemetaries for the rebel dead? They pretty much destroyed them outright. The fate of those statues seems unclear, some say that they might put them in cemetaries and one councilor wants to destroy them outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 You can just feel the economic anxiety that led to Trump being elected oozing through their pores. 2 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 same as a lot of black people voted for Obama just because he is black... I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 You can just feel the economic anxiety that led to Trump being elected oozing through their pores. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/15/16144070/psychology-alt-right It goes to show: The alt-right is motivated by racial issues, not economic anxiety. https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c9uvw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) same as a lot of black people voted for Obama just because he is black... That argument doesn't really work because every other president has been white. Unless I'm misunderstanding your point. You can just feel the economic anxiety that led to Trump being elected oozing through their pores. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/15/16144070/psychology-alt-right It goes to show: The alt-right is motivated by racial issues, not economic anxiety. https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/c9uvw I read that Vox article title as "NEWS! Psychologists find that racists are racists!" and was like, Vox, I know you can do better than this..... Edited August 16, 2017 by smjjames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Woman, 22, who pulled down Confederate statue in North Carolina is arrested and could face PRISON - as Democrat governor vows to remove all 'anti-American' Civil War monuments from his state (DailyMail) There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I can tell you now, she's not going to prison. Maybe jail time, and even then I'd be surprised if the judge reached that verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Well, they did technically remove it in an unlawful way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Woah, talk about pouring gasoline on fire! Baltimore removes Confederate statues (CNN) Just like ISIS. Somehow. They're moving some to cemeteries for the rebel dead, so BFD. I don't think ISIS moved anything to cemetaries for the rebel dead? They pretty much destroyed them outright. The fate of those statues seems unclear, some say that they might put them in cemetaries and one councilor wants to destroy them outright. I know but am seeing that reaction by some as if they compare well. Sticking them in cemeteries is the best. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 That doesn't matter. You think Libtard justices care? It is why Libtard cities are able to protect many criminals breaking the law. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Well, they did technically remove it in an unlawful way. Well, I guess that's their answer to a car plowing through their people. There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 The historical facts of the nazi state was that it was totalitarian; with the government controlling all industry even if they didn't formally own it as in the SU. Controlling all industry isn't historical fact except from Goebbels 'total war' speech which was Feb '43 just after Stalingrad, from memory, and after which they were on a, well, total war footing. The UK had total governmental control of the economy far far more so than Germany up to that point- anything could be requisitioned, you made what you were told to, ration cards were in effect etc etc. That's why war production in Germany peaked not in 1940, 41, 42 or even 43 but in 1944 despite all the allied bombing and them starting to lose all their mineral resources plus wasting huge resources on dreadful return pie in the sky wunderwaffe; because up to 1943 companies had happily been producing luxury items and the like alongside the tanks and planes. That's right, one of hitler's biggest strategic mistakes was not mobilizing for war until 1943. But Germany was a totalitarian dictatorship unlike Britain, thus could control anything at any time, war or not. He also prioritized supplying the Navy while his army was being destroyed in Russia, but so what? "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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