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The difference between an arsehole and a genocidal maniac is more than just a difference of degree.

Genocidal maniac? :lol:  Don't get me wrong. I love and participate in good hyperbole and melodrama to spice up forum chatter. But that is a stretch. Let's see, Trump has been in office for five months now. He has ordered one cruise missile strike that killed 15 people according to Syria. The LA Times thinks is was more like 4 but whatever. Of course the attack was in response to a chemical weapons attack that killed over 70 including children in a US backed rebel group. Not that it was any better than the others but whatever. By July 4 2009 Barack Obama ordered drone strikes that  killed over 241 in Afghanistan, Iraq, & Yemen (who we were not even at war with at the time. Of course we were not at war with Syria, Iraq, & Afghanistan either). 241 including non-combatants because air delivered ordinance does not know the difference. And he won a Nobel Peace Prize four months later! But Hitler and Arafat both had those in their trophy cases too so that does not mean much. By the end of 2016 the Obama Admin would order strikes that killed almost 4k people.

 

Just to compare, in the first six months the body count of George W Bush, Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, Ronald Regan, and Jimmy Carter was 0.

 

He is a buffoon and a fool no doubt. But genocidal maniac? Not even CLOSE! Obama came a lot closer. You liked him didn't you? But it's still early.

 

Almost forgot, my source material: https://www.theburea...jects/drone-war


Edited by Guard Dog, 29 June 2017 - 07:14 AM.

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What's up with California travel ban? They got 8 states so far, mine included.

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What's up with California travel ban? They got 8 states so far, mine included.

 

Somethingsomething they wont fund business trips for CA state employees traveling to states with unfavorable LGBT laws and regulations.



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The difference between an arsehole and a genocidal maniac is more than just a difference of degree.

Genocidal maniac? :lol:  Don't get me wrong. I love and participate in good hyperbole and melodrama to spice up forum chatter. But that is a stretch. Let's see, Trump has been in office for five months now. He has ordered one cruise missile strike that killed 15 people according to Syria. The LA Times thinks is was more like 4 but whatever. Of course the attack was in response to a chemical weapons attack that killed over 70 including children in a US backed rebel group. Not that it was any better than the others but whatever. By July 4 2009 Barack Obama ordered drone strikes that  killed over 241 in Afghanistan, Iraq, & Yemen (who we were not even at war with at the time. Of course we were not at war with Syria, Iraq, & Afghanistan either). 241 including non-combatants because air delivered ordinance does not know the difference. And he won a Nobel Peace Prize four months later! But Hitler and Arafat both had those in their trophy cases too so that does not mean much. By the end of 2016 the Obama Admin would order strikes that killed almost 4k people.
 
Just to compare, in the first six months the body count of George W Bush, Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, Ronald Regan, and Jimmy Carter was 0.
 
He is a buffoon and a fool no doubt. But genocidal maniac? Not even CLOSE! Obama came a lot closer. You liked him didn't you? But it's still early.
 
Almost forgot, my source material: https://www.theburea...jects/drone-war


And he dropped MOBA IIRC

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How is that even legal? It is also funny because I doubt they ban travel to certain other countries that treat gays a lot worst. But, that Call. One of the most Nazi, insane, evil  coutnries in the world. Yet, people actually believe California should be allowed to decide the US election solo? LMAO



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The difference between an arsehole and a genocidal maniac is more than just a difference of degree.

Genocidal maniac? :lol:  Don't get me wrong. I love and participate in good hyperbole and melodrama to spice up forum chatter. But that is a stretch. Let's see, Trump has been in office for five months now. He has ordered one cruise missile strike that killed 15 people according to Syria. The LA Times thinks is was more like 4 but whatever. Of course the attack was in response to a chemical weapons attack that killed over 70 including children in a US backed rebel group. Not that it was any better than the others but whatever. By July 4 2009 Barack Obama ordered drone strikes that  killed over 241 in Afghanistan, Iraq, & Yemen (who we were not even at war with at the time. Of course we were not at war with Syria, Iraq, & Afghanistan either). 241 including non-combatants because air delivered ordinance does not know the difference. And he won a Nobel Peace Prize four months later! But Hitler and Arafat both had those in their trophy cases too so that does not mean much. By the end of 2016 the Obama Admin would order strikes that killed almost 4k people.
 
Just to compare, in the first six months the body count of George W Bush, Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, Ronald Regan, and Jimmy Carter was 0.
 
He is a buffoon and a fool no doubt. But genocidal maniac? Not even CLOSE! Obama came a lot closer. You liked him didn't you? But it's still early.
 
Almost forgot, my source material: https://www.theburea...jects/drone-war

 


And he dropped MOBA IIRC

 

Yep, I forgot about that one. I stand corrected.



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How is that even legal? It is also funny because I doubt they ban travel to certain other countries that treat gays a lot worst. But, that Call. One of the most Nazi, insane, evil  coutnries in the world. Yet, people actually believe California should be allowed to decide the US election solo? LMAO

It's not what is sounds like. They can't stop people from traveling, they just can't do it at State expense. It's a petty and petulant move that has no real impact on anything. I'm a state employee myself and almost nothing gets done at state expense.



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Still a state shouldn't be able to boycott another state. Isn't that what the Commerce Clause is all about? Of course they're all lovey dovey with China, that's fine. Not that we want Californians here.

Speaking of not being allowed to travel: http://www.dailymail...nal-appeal.html I'm glad I live in a free country.

Edited by Wrath of Dagon, 29 June 2017 - 07:34 AM.


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Still a state shouldn't be able to boycott another state. Isn't that what the Commerce Clause is all about? Of course they're all lovey dovey with China, that's fine. Not that we want Californians here.

Speaking of not being allowed to travel: http://www.dailymail...nal-appeal.html I'm glad I live in a free country.

And yet the UK opposes the death penalty? I guess not for children. I find the doctor's position on this difficult to fathom. They have the money, what's the problem? Unless the UK does not consider their child to really be theirs?


Edited by Guard Dog, 29 June 2017 - 07:39 AM.


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Looks like an attention grab to me. They could easily hire a private medical team to support the kid until they got to the US but somehow they want to force the UK gov to foot the bill for the life support? 



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The difference between an arsehole and a genocidal maniac is more than just a difference of degree.

Genocidal maniac? :lol: Don't get me wrong. I love and participate in good hyperbole and melodrama to spice up forum chatter. But that is a stretch. Let's see, Trump has been in office for five months now. He has ordered one cruise missile strike that killed 15 people according to Syria. The LA Times thinks is was more like 4 but whatever. Of course the attack was in response to a chemical weapons attack that killed over 70 including children in a US backed rebel group. Not that it was any better than the others but whatever. By July 4 2009 Barack Obama ordered drone strikes that killed over 241 in Afghanistan, Iraq, & Yemen (who we were not even at war with at the time. Of course we were not at war with Syria, Iraq, & Afghanistan either). 241 including non-combatants because air delivered ordinance does not know the difference. And he won a Nobel Peace Prize four months later! But Hitler and Arafat both had those in their trophy cases too so that does not mean much. By the end of 2016 the Obama Admin would order strikes that killed almost 4k people.

Just to compare, in the first six months the body count of George W Bush, Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, Ronald Regan, and Jimmy Carter was 0.

He is a buffoon and a fool no doubt. But genocidal maniac? Not even CLOSE! Obama came a lot closer. You liked him didn't you? But it's still early.

Almost forgot, my source material: https://www.theburea...jects/drone-war
And he dropped MOBA IIRC

Trump WOULD be a LoL player.
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Trump WOULD be a LoL player.

 

Lil' Trump playing MOBAs?

 

 

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Looks like an attention grab to me. They could easily hire a private medical team to support the kid until they got to the US but somehow they want to force the UK gov to foot the bill for the life support?

According to the article that's not the issue. The parents would pay for that, but the hospital refuses to release the child to them.

Actually we've had a similar case of medical kidnapping: http://michellemalki...cal-kidnappers/

Edited by Wrath of Dagon, 29 June 2017 - 10:48 AM.


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Thought Trump's latest tweets were photoshops... but of course not.



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On the story in which Scarborough and Brzezinski were reportedly threatened with a damaging story printed in the National Enquirer, for the benefit of our non-North American readers, that is a publication found on the rack at the grocery store checkout line that has printed some variation of "Hillary: Six Months to Live" on the cover... for the past two decades. "Hillary" is also interchangeable with just about any celebrity that is probably chosen on the basis that the editor in chief just so happened to hit his or her name on a dartboard and "six months to live" can optionally be "in rehab".


Edited by Agiel, 30 June 2017 - 09:22 AM.


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"It's not what is sounds like. They can't stop people from traveling, they just can't do it at State expense. It's a petty and petulant move that has no real impact on anything. I'm a state employee myself and almost nothing gets done at state expense."

 

It just seems like something that should be legally impossible. Then again, in Kanada, we have some weird cross province rules including dealing with bringing alcohol across provincial borders and how dreadful our health care system can be to cross province travelers as well. Epically disgusting.

 

In kalifornia's case, it is hypocritical as well since they likely do a lot of business with countries that are vehemently anti gay. In fact, doesn't Kalifornia oppose  the Muslim country travel 'bans'? the same countries that  re largely anti gay? Shouldn't they be supporting them based on their anti gay stances? LMAO

 

Hypocrisy in Politics. Well.. I never.


Edited by Volourn, 30 June 2017 - 09:25 AM.

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"It's not what is sounds like. They can't stop people from traveling, they just can't do it at State expense. It's a petty and petulant move that has no real impact on anything. I'm a state employee myself and almost nothing gets done at state expense."

 

It just seems like something that should be legally impossible. Then again, in Kanada, we have some weird cross province rules including dealing with bringing alcohol across provincial borders and how dreadful our health care system can be to cross province travelers as well. Epically disgusting.

 

In kalifornia's case, it is hypocritical as well since they likely do a lot of business with countries that are vehemently anti gay. In fact, doesn't Kalifornia oppose  the Muslim country travel 'bans'? the same countries that  re largely anti gay? Shouldn't they be supporting them based on their anti gay stances? LMAO

 

Hypocrisy in Politics. Well.. I never.

 

The thing about 'legally impossible' laws is that once passed they generally need to be challenged in court before they're actually deemed 'legally impossible'.

 

A legislature and executive can pass pretty much any law they want, and it will stand until someone challenges it and succeeds in getting a court to agree that the law should not be.

 

So in the case of this California law, another State would have to challenge it in Federal court.

 

Good luck finding another state that actually wants emissaries from the State Government of California visiting them.


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Still a state shouldn't be able to boycott another state. Isn't that what the Commerce Clause is all about? Of course they're all lovey dovey with China, that's fine. Not that we want Californians here.

Speaking of not being allowed to travel: http://www.dailymail...nal-appeal.html I'm glad I live in a free country.

And yet the UK opposes the death penalty? I guess not for children. I find the doctor's position on this difficult to fathom. They have the money, what's the problem? Unless the UK does not consider their child to really be theirs?

 

 

It is case where they have come in conclusion that child can't be saved and keeping him alive artificially is just prolonging his suffering and therefore against his human rights. ECHR has decided that this is issue in which don't interfere in states decisions.

 

http://www.telegraph...s-legal-battle/



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