Ben No.3 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 "So the conclusion I take from this is don't live in a city" Is it a coincidence that the cities is where you find the most leftards? That likely leads to a lot of murders too. As for the Kanada goes, our big cities have theire share of crime. Just ask Toronto - our most Ameirkan like city. R00fles! Actually, more people in the city are left since they are exposed to social (cultural, economical, political, etc.) heterogeneity on a daily basis Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 "So the conclusion I take from this is don't live in a city" Is it a coincidence that the cities is where you find the most leftards? That likely leads to a lot of murders too. As for the Kanada goes, our big cities have theire share of crime. Just ask Toronto - our most Ameirkan like city. R00fles! Actually, more people in the city are left since they are exposed to social (cultural, economical, political, etc.) heterogeneity on a daily basis Well that is a factor. I think the reason urban areas tend to be more comfortable with government is because they live in a "controlled environment" so to speak. If you live in an apartment in a major city you share a building with maybe hundreds of other people. Maybe more. Part of the cost of the apartment is upkeep on the common areas of the building. If you step outside you are on a street that is maintained by a municipality that collects taxes from you for that purpose. The landscaping, home security, etc most folks take for granted are being done by entities they pay for. Even single family homes in the suburbs are often part of community associations where just living there means ceding some control over the property you own to the association. Government is everywhere in a city. Even when it become odious and heavy handed, like an abusive parent, you still depend on it. Becoming comfortable with government at smaller levels makes them comfortable with heavy handed and odious government at higher levels. If people live their whole lives in a major city they may not even be able to conceive of a different way to do things. The nearest city to me is Memphis over an hour and a half south of here. There are two towns pretty close but they are tiny. And even they are 30 minutes away. My nearest neighbor is 3 miles away (5 kilometers give or take). We share a dirt road neither of us owns. In seven years here I have never seen a country grader maintaining that road. So when it gets out of hand one of us will take care of it. I've got a box frame disc that connects to my John Deere that smoothes out the whole road in about two hours. Police? Fire? EMS? They are a minimum for 15 minutes away. Whatever happens you have to be able to take care of yourself, at least for a little while. People who live in rural areas suddenly realize we don't need the government that isn't doing anything for us pushing us around and telling us what we can and can't do with the property we own. I believe that is the root of the difference of attitude on government between urban and rural areas. It's a difference of dependency and self sufficiency to a point. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 "So the conclusion I take from this is don't live in a city" Is it a coincidence that the cities is where you find the most leftards? That likely leads to a lot of murders too. As for the Kanada goes, our big cities have theire share of crime. Just ask Toronto - our most Ameirkan like city. R00fles! volo I still cant believe you live in the mountains without electricity, I was watching this episode of Mountain Men and man those guys are tough "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 "So the conclusion I take from this is don't live in a city" Is it a coincidence that the cities is where you find the most leftards? That likely leads to a lot of murders too. As for the Kanada goes, our big cities have theire share of crime. Just ask Toronto - our most Ameirkan like city. R00fles! volo I still cant believe you live in the mountains without electricity, I was watching this episode of Mountain Men and man those guys are tough I would take mountains without electricity over Johannesburg anytime... 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 That does kind of say it all about his perception of the President doesn't it? Thought it was less work than a reality tv host and businessman... 1 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 He thought that it was less work than essentially doing nothing? "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 He thought that it was less work than essentially doing nothing? I don't think that is a fair characterization of Trump's work in business and television. Although I've said it many times before, the Presidency is probably the most difficult job in the country and most people don't seem to fully grasp the tremendous toll it takes on an individual. That's why I never understood why Trump even wanted the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Saying he did nothing is certainly hyperbole. However, the most tiring thing he ever did, mentally or physically, before becoming the President was probably recording episodes of The Apprentice. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Saying he did nothing is certainly hyperbole. However, the most tiring thing he ever did, mentally or physically, before becoming the President was probably recording episodes of The Apprentice. Actually I doubt his hosting duties were all that strenuous. However running multiple business and handling real estate is where he makes his money, and he seems to be very involved in that. I don't think it is reasonable to dismiss his work ethic. There are plenty of other flaws for us to hold against him. edit: Also, the campaign itself is a tremendous grind, and should have given him a pretty good idea of what the presidency would be like. He campaigned for well over a year and all evidence points to him doing it tirelessly. He would have burnt out long before the election if he really was a lazy guy. Edited April 28, 2017 by Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckdevil Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Plus having the overall media scrutinized and blow up your every move (good and bad) I think adds into it. At least Obama and Bush didn't have it anywhere near as bad. Also I think he was assuming that he would be in charge of making decisions and people would follow them instead our govt works as everyone is opposed to everything and anything getting done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Trump probably didn't mean "easier than his previous life" he meant "easier than it actually is". "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Saying he did nothing is certainly hyperbole. However, the most tiring thing he ever did, mentally or physically, before becoming the President was probably recording episodes of The Apprentice. Actually I doubt his hosting duties were all that strenuous. However running multiple business and handling real estate is where he makes his money, and he seems to be very involved in that. I don't think it is reasonable to dismiss his work ethic. There are plenty of other flaws for us to hold against him. edit: Also, the campaign itself is a tremendous grind, and should have given him a pretty good idea of what the presidency would be like. He campaigned for well over a year and all evidence points to him doing it tirelessly. He would have burnt out long before the election if he really was a lazy guy. I don't think he ever did much more than speaking to yes men and delegating actual work when running his various businesses. As for the campaign, while being always on the road is certainly strenuous in and of itself, his speeches were always almost entirely off the cuff for a reason. He prepares nothing beforehand, and doesn't think more than 5 minutes about any given subject. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Yeah, if you're running a Trump size business then the owner does as much or as little work as they want. Nobody in his company is going to tell him he has to get off the golf course but he has plenty of employees he can delegate to if needed. It's a bit different when running a country though, and a lot more like what normal people would regard as an actual job. I very much doubt that Trump was 'lazy' before becoming president though, he always seemed to be looking for interesting stuff to do whether it was wrestling or The Apprentice; but it was stuff that he very much chose to be involved in and could leave if he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 "volo I still cant believe you live in the mountains without electricity, I was watching this episode of Mountain Men and man those guys are tough :p" I live in a 'city'. Just not one of those ultrat violent psychopathic city that Liberals are proud of. says the guiy whsoe favorite city in the world is New York. LMAO DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Prediction: Trump will not run for reelection. Book it. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Prediction: Trump will not run for reelection. Book it. Yes thats a safe bet I would also take "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Prediction: Trump will not run for reelection. Book it. Yes thats a safe bet I would also take Considering you were adamant about betting on Clinton I would take that bet. How is 25.000 $ sound like? Yes I did expect Hilary to win but I dont think I offered any bets on it, I do gamble but that's in a controlled environment like a casino This is important to me because I want to be assured I can effectively claim any money I may win, I don't want to hear " sorry I dont have the 25k " So lets say we take this bet what guarantee can you give me I will get this 25k from you if I win and how can you show me you have this 25k. You may think Im being rude but you cant just take a bet on this amount and expect people to automatically believe you being serious ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 " controlled environment like a casino " 'Controlled'. You mean where they cheat and stack the deck against you? LMAO DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben No.3 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 " controlled environment like a casino " 'Controlled'. You mean where they cheat and stack the deck against you? LMAO Had some bad experiences gambling, huh? Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) " controlled environment like a casino " 'Controlled'. You mean where they cheat and stack the deck against you? LMAO Had some bad experiences gambling, huh? Edited April 29, 2017 by Guard Dog "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 " controlled environment like a casino " 'Controlled'. You mean where they cheat and stack the deck against you? LMAO I dont believe casino's cheat, I go to large and international casinos like MonteCasino...its got shops and banks and movies and several gambling floors but the entire casino is legally allowed to provide legal gambling? https://www.tsogosun.com/montecasino "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I've never been to a casino. L0L But, they absolutely do cheat/stack th deck. It's a known fact. There's a reason why they make tons of money. If things were 'fair' and 'up and up' there wouldn't be a 99% chance of losing. LMAO The 'rules' (such as they are) are strictly designed for them to make tons of profit. I wouldn't doubt they have their employees 'count cards' even as they throw people who 'count cards'. They also have thugs in their emplopyee to beat up people who cross them. EVIL. 1 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I must agree with Volourn here I'm sad to say. EVIL. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Nah they are not evil. I've never once heard of them kidnapping a guy on the street and bringing him back and forcing him to play. Folks walk in freely, get screwed over and ask for another. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I must agree with Volourn here I'm sad to say. EVIL. Nah they are not evil. I've never once heard of them kidnapping a guy on the street and bringing him back and forcing him to play. Folks walk in freely, get screwed over and ask for another. I cannot blame any casino for being the cause of gambling addiction or someone losing their life savings even though I have seen this first hand because its about decision and consequence. People have got to take some sense of responsibility for not going into a casino if you know you cannot trust yourself gambling Remember a gambling addiction is a sickness like any other addiction and there are several ways to avoid gambling in casinos.....what they teach you on day 1 at these gambling anonymous meetings is you MUST avoid all and any gambling institutions. This is the beginning of a series of steps you need to take to not feed the gambling addiction This should be obvious yet people ignore this and relapse ....any of these very helpful organisations like AA or Narcotics Anonymous also understand people relapse and this is part of the process of recovery. They dont judge you but you need to start the various steps again. Take a look at there website and see the various 12 steps people follow on the path to gambling addiction http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/node/1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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