tinysalamander Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Edér as a blood brother Pillars of Bugothas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamestari Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Just a thought for all those who want to bed Pallegina: Josh Sawyer is writing the character. That means that when she confesses her undying love for you, when it describes her lying you down and having her way with you, that is Josh Sawyer thinking that up and writing it down, describing your favourite sexual fetishes. You could say that he is cybering with you, and anyone who announces that they romanced Pallegina and enjoyed, he knows what they did. Just wanted to put the image of Pallegina with Josh Sawyer's face in your head. For my amusement. .... .... .... That was just EVIL! EDIT: and now I saw the pic. **** my stomach hurts xD Edited March 29, 2017 by Ninjamestari 1 The most important step you take in your life is the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Instead of cinematic scenes like some other games, sex should be that storybook thing they did with scripted interactions. With Josh narrariting and supplying the sound effects. 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamestari Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I'm not really convinced that having sex is a good idea in the first place. It tends to cheapen the whole 'romance' thing. Also, it just might remind people of some recent BioWare titles and cause violent projectile vomiting. The most important step you take in your life is the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinysalamander Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Death by sex if you dumped Constitution to lowest possible value 2 Pillars of Bugothas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regggler Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Man, this thread just keeps getting better! Death by sex if you dumped Constitution to lowest possible value Random person of negotiable affections: "I'm a fine-looking strumpet, ain't I?" Low-Con Watcher: "Argh - my heart!" Edited March 29, 2017 by Regggler 3 Endure. In enduring, grow strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Main character has a wild and thoroughly enjoyable fling with a rich and gorgeous floozie (male or female) via scripted interaction, then breaks it off. Ex-lover becomes jealous and hires a cipher to give our protagonist nightmares. These continue to get progressively worse each time our hero returns to the port. Soon the former lover begins to be featured in these nightmares, swearing eternal vengeance in the form of a howling thunderstorm. Our protagonist must either beg for forgiveness and suffer some utter humiliation while serving the ex-lover's whims on a remote island, or spend an enormous sum to hire a cipher assassin who will end the attacks. 1 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamestari Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Death by sex if you dumped Constitution to lowest possible value Why does that remind me of those grinning skeletons on that amazon planet in futurama? :D 6 The most important step you take in your life is the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooAmEye Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 My dream idea for romance is a super long and slow build up to it. In PoE1 you were all just friends, lacking any romantic intrest in each other. So, I'd like PoE2 to have just the beginings of a relationship, just the courtship. Then in the inevitable PoE3, we can have a full blown romance, with all the lovey-dovey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Such a slow build up that you don't even notice it. It was right under your nose the whole time! At least that's what you keep telling yourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamestari Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 It always bothered me in Bioware games how quickly the relationships progressed. They usually move from "hi, who might you be?" to "let's go make kissy-faces" in less than a couple dozen lines of dialogue. It always made the relationships feel forced, shallow and cheap. Then again, their decisions for making romances are made in the faceless-men with suitcases department, so it isn't that surprising. So hell yeah for a more natural and gradually developing relationship. If the game manages to make me care about a character, *then* it has my blessing on introducing the possibility for a romance, not before. Too bad about Pallegina though, she was such a promising character, had all the right little nuances, but I don't think I can ever unsee that Joshugina picture. Seriously people, have some shame, I don't think that character will ever recover from that xD 2 The most important step you take in your life is the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTomT18 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Billion Dollar Idea: your character takes some weird drugs, and starts having weird hallucinations and sees "Joshugina" and your character freaks out. "Who are you? "Huh? Me? I'm Josh." "Where is Pallegnia?" "She's here. In my head. Or am I in hers?" "What?" "I am her father." And then your character passes out 2 It is human nature to seek culpability in a time of tragedy. It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one’s head and succumb. Inevitably many will fault the hands upon the sword which felled Typhon, the Ordo Malleus. But the Inquisition merely performs the duty of its office. To further fear them is redundant; to hate them, heretical. Those more sensible will place responsibility with those who forced the hands of the Inquisition. With some fortune, they may foster this hatred into purpose, and further rule their own fate by coming to the Emperor’s service. Yet ultimately, it was I who set these events into motion, with a single blow from my hammer, God Splitter. -Gabriel Angelos, of the Blood Ravens 4th Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadayko Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Did you guys not enjoy the previous romances Obsidian did? NWN2, Kotor2, Alpha protocol? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If you believe the rumors about romance in PoE2, they're just joshing you... 3 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensu Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Have an option to romance the Grieving Mother, and your companions will start making fun of you for having an imaginary girlfriend. :D 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Have an option to romance the Grieving Mother, and your companions will start making fun of you for having an imaginary girlfriend. :D I think that happens irl for most promancers anyway. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTomT18 Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Have an option to romance the Grieving Mother, and your companions will start making fun of you for having an imaginary girlfriend. :D Shes not 'imaginary', they just see her in as a useless peasant women. Memory is a bit fuzzy but I remember Eder being like 'you mean the old lady? Don't know why you have her following us around but whatever' when you ask him about her. Either way, it'd be funny. 2 It is human nature to seek culpability in a time of tragedy. It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one’s head and succumb. Inevitably many will fault the hands upon the sword which felled Typhon, the Ordo Malleus. But the Inquisition merely performs the duty of its office. To further fear them is redundant; to hate them, heretical. Those more sensible will place responsibility with those who forced the hands of the Inquisition. With some fortune, they may foster this hatred into purpose, and further rule their own fate by coming to the Emperor’s service. Yet ultimately, it was I who set these events into motion, with a single blow from my hammer, God Splitter. -Gabriel Angelos, of the Blood Ravens 4th Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkarov Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 It always bothered me in Bioware games how quickly the relationships progressed. They usually move from "hi, who might you be?" to "let's go make kissy-faces" in less than a couple dozen lines of dialogue. It always made the relationships feel forced, shallow and cheap. Then again, their decisions for making romances are made in the faceless-men with suitcases department, so it isn't that surprising. So hell yeah for a more natural and gradually developing relationship. This is the guys who made Alpha Protocol, they can do a "get it on" relationship well. I remember in that game you had one Asian lady you worked with from the very beginning whom you could not "romance" until right before the last mission of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamestari Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 This is the guys who made Alpha Protocol, they can do a "get it on" relationship well. I remember in that game you had one Asian lady you worked with from the very beginning whom you could not "romance" until right before the last mission of the game. Then faith +1. Oh wait, that came out wrong 1 The most important step you take in your life is the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I don't see what's the problem with an instant and intense attraction but then again maybe I'm just a floozy. Diff'rent strokes and all that 4 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heijoushin Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I don't see what's the problem with an instant and intense attraction but then again maybe I'm just a floozy. Diff'rent strokes and all that Interesting. I have never heard the term "floozy" before. Anyway, considering that you go into combat and various life-threatening situations with these people, I would think that you would bond with them quite fast. People mistake adrenaline for love and all that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamestari Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I don't see what's the problem with an instant and intense attraction but then again maybe I'm just a floozy. Diff'rent strokes and all that It gets old after you've experienced enough times. If you've never experienced instant attraction, then it can be quite intense and definitely worth experiencing. The problem when it comes to a fictional character though is that it is quite difficult to actually get that reaction out of the player. Giving the player a cheesy response-option to a cheesy "Damn, I just saw you and am already in love" doesn't usually generate player attraction. Quite the opposite really; try to remember Ashley from ME1, and how they tried to hammer in attraction from the very first encounter while failing utterly in their attempts at subtlety. I'm not going to even talk about Liara. Attraction doesn't form naturally if you try too hard to force it, which is why a gradual relationship is so much easier to do properly in a game. Not to mention that a gradually growing more deeper affection is so much more satisfying, both in gaming and in real life. When you get enough instant gratification, it starts to feel disgusting. The most important step you take in your life is the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basic_hitler Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I know that Obsidian is three or four steps above Bioware in their ability to write a story or make a game but I would hope that any romance or deep companion relationships are handled with restraint and open disdain for the types of 'shippers and other fanfic writers out there. I frankly find the obsession that Bioware fans have over who they can romance to be kind of creepy and Bioware's dedication to administering a thick enema of fan service to these weirdos was the first sign of a problem with the company, and I absolutely don't want anything close to a Bioware type romance in this game. I know Obsidian is way better than that, as I've said, I just really want to say it out loud. The way Witcher 3 handled romance between Triss and Yennifer is closer to something I would consider reasonable and maybe even desirable, since even the goofy elements of witcher 3 are far more developed and mature than bioware fanfic romance shlock, and even if you don't like W3 romance, it's not like that stuff made the game worse by being a part of it. That's the best I can hope for PoE2 romance options, that it doesn't cheapen the game by having it. PoE1 is a really strong game with interesting and sympathetic sidekicks and it was actually refreshing for hunks like Eder to JUST be companions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamestari Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 It's not quite that clear cut; Bioware has superior storytelling in the technical sense; pacing, plot, overall design in mood changes, Bioware does all of those things better than Obsidian. A lot better. Obsidian's strength is in their own unique style, their stories connect with both the world and the player in a much deeper way than Bioware has ever managed to do. Bioware has created a formula and perfected their skills in utilizing it to the point when they can just engineer engaging stories. What they've lost in the process is the soul and the artistic vision though, while Obsidian still has those in spades. There's a lot for Obsidian to learn, but the difference is that while Obsidian can learn the raw proficiency Bioware has, the artistic integrity and vision Obsidian has is something that can't just be duplicated. To simplify, Bioware is the superior craftsman, but Obsidian has access to better raw materials. The most important step you take in your life is the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooAmEye Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Bioware has done several relationships very well though. Garrus, Thane, Solas, and Jack were all handled with a great arc with modern Bioware. Most of the romances are quite schlocky true, however that doesn't mean that there isn't some great ones in there. Moving on, I can say there are only a few games that I've encountered that have handled romance well. I'm more than a bit of a sappy person at heart, and adore seeing a well done romance story. The problem is that games are designed to gratify and empower the mc. Thus, games romances will often come across as pandering, weirdly controlling, or extremely one sided. The LI aren't allowed to have their own problems that can't be solved without the mc, leading toward a dominance in the relationship, and creating an strange plotting dissonance. Games like Katawa Shoujo, Baldurs Gate, and Dragon Age are great examples of this. Other games will treat the romance arc as a reward for the player, meant to just gratify and pander the player. Persona, Heavy Rain, and Uncharted all do this. What we get from this is a pretty squicky situation, that just ends up feeling gross. So, what games have I enjoyed in the romance aspect. The Darkness does a great job of setting up the relationship between Jenny and Jackie, allowing for heartbreak later down the line. To The Moon focuses on the little moments in a relationship, and goes beyond the standard vows of love. Hatoful Boyfriend has a concept that is too ridiculous to truly take seriously, allowing the game to invest into its own style of pathos. There is once last example of gaming romance that I'd like to mention, and incidentally it's from a crpg! Theres a mod for BG2 that I'd reccomend to anyone that can get past its premise. The Imoen Romance Mod is utterly enthralling, and a surprisngly well done romance. Apart from just adding a done of depth to the lackluster Imoen, it adds several new routes to her character. The romance is drawn out through the entire campaign, with multiple conflicts during the relationship. She will end it with you if you pressure her too much, and will argue with you on the morality of the relationship. Both of you can influence each other during the arc, changing the alignments and abilities. It truly is the best romance I've found in games, and would heartily approve of it to those who want to check it out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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