Barbedbeat 251 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 @LuccA: I honestly can't see anything wrong with being enthusiastic about something. And it's very nice of you to worry about our mental wellbeing, but, in my specific case, there's nothing more to be done. So, thanks anyway. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WorstUsernameEver 598 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I'm going to guess their internal timetables depend on budget, staffing, market concerns, and a number of factors that don't include their actual forums.Are you suggesting that OE isn't running their business according to the demands of random people on the internet? How dare you! Well, yes, but I'm also suggesting that the timetable might be, to a degree, out of the hand of the team. It's also likely they're going to partially crowdfund this title, in which case the timetable from announcement to release won't be short. Which might be a good thing, as short announcement to release windows seem to work better for titles with a sizable budget and expensive marketing campaigns, two things PoE2 will most likely lack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sp3cw4r 90 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Possible PoE2 portraits from Sawyers Instagram: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JerekKruger 3,526 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Possible PoE2 portraits from Sawyers Instagram: Seems very likely given that they look to be Aumaua and Vailians which are the obvious races to go with a naval themed campaign which has been strongly hinted at now. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrotherFerg 34 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Never thought I'd be on boat Quote Why does a chair have arms and legs like a man, but can't walk or hold things? Link to post Share on other sites
LLaney 771 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Never thought I'd be on boat 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sedrefilos 2,092 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) Devs keeping an eye on this thread, I see Edited December 11, 2016 by Sedrefilos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlam 206 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Since I tend to feel seasick in real life, I never thought I'd travel on a boat in RPGs, but I like the concept as long as there aren't too many pirates around. That theme is a bit cliché by now! Also, in the first chapter we already met THE KRAKEN! so which legendary monster can we expect this time? Devs are keeping an eye on this thread? More teasing pleaaase... and kickstarter soon, hopefully! 1 Quote Edér, I am using WhatsApp! Link to post Share on other sites
LLaney 771 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I am but a magical gif wizard, able to dispense memes but not teases. Sorry, friends! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JerekKruger 3,526 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Just you wait, PoE2 will end up actually being set in a desert Edited December 12, 2016 by JerekKruger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Suen 161 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Just you wait, PoE2 will end up actually being set in a de sert just a small inconvenience 8 Quote I've come to burn your kingdom down Link to post Share on other sites
evilcat 584 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 More seafood in PoE2 sounds good. I could ship that. Pirates and Merchants are not that wear off cliche in cRPG, we had Risen, but that IP had some bad times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrotherFerg 34 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 We'll be fighting epic sea monsters, scuba diving for exotic treasures, sailing on our own yachthold, epic ship battles, probably equipped with spells that create tsunamis and cyclones, underwater cave exploration, dolphins, joining pirate factions or fighting them, discovering new worlds with exotic aboriginies, genocide, mermaids and mermen, hot but not too humid weather conditions, whales that might be friendly and used to help fight but also shy ones that don't trust you at first, exploring ship wrecks 10 leagues below the surface, potions that let you swim under water for extended periods of time and also mermaids that give you oxygen that could be misconstrued as sexual advances. 3 Quote Why does a chair have arms and legs like a man, but can't walk or hold things? Link to post Share on other sites
soulcycle 7 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Just you wait, PoE2 will end up actually being set in a desert yes,but in underwater desert world Edited December 13, 2016 by soulcycle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheisEjsing 2,029 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 So Arabian Bioshock? I can dig that. :D 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karkarov 3,693 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hahah, you're right. I work as a market analyst, so I'm used to people's opinion in forums and social network being transformed into numbers and reports that represent the "consumer sentiment" etc. But I guess Obsidian is not that big a company (nor that kind o' company) to consider fan demand for their schedule. Well as a person who refused to discuss his job in any real way online lets just say I have.... similar requirements in mine. I would say it has a lot less to do with the size of their company, and considerably more to do with these three things. 1: Forums are too small a sample size, the vast majority of the people who play their games either don't know this forum exists or will never participate on it. Even if you added steam forums, the now sparse kickstarter comment section, and other social media it still might not be enough to validate the effort and cost. 2: I feel like they have enough experience making this type of game that their finger is pretty much already on the pulse of fan expectations versus what actually works in an isometric RPG. 3: They can always use critical reception and fan reviews of POE 1 to do this research at this point. No need to look for additional sources, and reviews are likely to contain a better analysis of what worked versus what didn't than random forum posts will. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheisEjsing 2,029 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I feel like you could get an adequate sample size, if you included the codex users aswell. : ) You might need to do a few different tests to identify outliers etc. in the data thou. ^_^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karkarov 3,693 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I feel like you could get an adequate sample size, if you included the codex users aswell. : ) You might need to do a few different tests to identify outliers etc. in the data thou. ^_^ Nah that would make it worse. It isn't just about sample size, it is also about bias. This is why you should never trust poll data at face value or based on sample size. RPGCodex is extremely biased about Eternity, so their data wouldn't be particularly useful and would likely skew the results. This is why the best market research is blind, and or comes from someone who doesn't care one way or the other. Because they have nothing invested in their answer, they will answer honestly. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheisEjsing 2,029 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I feel like you could get an adequate sample size, if you included the codex users aswell. : ) You might need to do a few different tests to identify outliers etc. in the data thou. ^_^ Nah that would make it worse. It isn't just about sample size, it is also about bias. This is why you should never trust poll data at face value or based on sample size. RPGCodex is extremely biased about Eternity, so their data wouldn't be particularly useful and would likely skew the results. This is why the best market research is blind, and or comes from someone who doesn't care one way or the other. Because they have nothing invested in their answer, they will answer honestly. I meant it as a joke. I guess I'm just horrible at execution. I'm a statistics major myself, so that's probably a bad sign. Using the codex as data about PoE made me chuckle abit thou, so I tried to be funny. ^_^ 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elric Galad 1,175 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Also, in the first chapter we already met THE KRAKEN! so which legendary monster can we expect this time? Leviathan. Edited December 14, 2016 by Elric Galad 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karkarov 3,693 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I meant it as a joke. I guess I'm just horrible at execution. I'm a statistics major myself, so that's probably a bad sign. Using the codex as data about PoE made me chuckle abit thou, so I tried to be funny. ^_^ Oh don't worry my reply was serious but I laughed when I read it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
InsaneCommander 2,818 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Also, in the first chapter we already met THE KRAKEN! so which legendary monster can we expect this time? Leviathan. Polpovir Spoiler for PoE 2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quillon 609 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Also, in the first chapter we already met THE KRAKEN! so which legendary monster can we expect this time? Leviathan. Polpovir Spoiler for PoE 2? Seems like more complex drowners(man-sized, strength in numbers) rather than a "legendary" monster. In other news: https://www.instagram.com/p/BN-ZCIwgStL/ So is the next stronghold a ship or an island? Or both? -not that a wrecked slaver ship full of dynamites in the middle of an island. Edited December 15, 2016 by Quillon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elric Galad 1,175 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 You want a legendary sea monster based on sheer number ? Try Red Tides. For more "big ones", sea snake, sea dragon, island turtle. Why not giant sea worms, Lovecraftian lampreys, abyssal fishes ? And of course the delicious titanic lobster ! And the mesmerizing giant chromatic sea slug. Flying stuff like Rukhs also works for boat adventures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sedrefilos 2,092 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 More interesting stuff here: https://www.twitch.tv/obsidian/v/107492013Part 2 of director's commentary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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