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[CLASS BUILD] Fire Priest (ranged sup-offdps)

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Or at least berath sigil does corrode DMG and weakened, wich is strong.

For the sake of completeness:
Symbols do 15-25 base damage in 2.5m base radius, every 3s, for 2s base duration.

Symbol of Berath: deals corrode damage vs fortitude. And weakens.
Symbol of Magran: deals burn damage vs will. And blinds.
Symbol of Scaen : deals pierce damage vs deflection. And hobbles.
Symbol of Eothas: deals burn damage vs reflex. And grants +20 to defenses.
Symbol of Wael  : deals freeze damage vs fortitude. And grants +30 defense against charm, domination, confuse.

So yeah, Berath variant is indeed good. Even if it targets fortitude, subsequent ticks might benefit from the -20 from weakened.
But it also has a con. Three out of five high dragons are immune to the corrode damage type (Sky, Turi and Gafo).
While Adra dragon specifically, has the same DR against corrode and deflection.


Btw, is it possible to slow a dragon?
The default run speed is 4. Adra Dragon is also known for being slow, so it probably has movement speed of up to 3.
And hobbled slows by 3 units.

-- edit --
Just tested. Hobbled Adra dragon is basically pin pointed to place for the duration.
And can be decimated from distance.

Edited by MaxQuest, 19 May 2016 - 11:36 AM.

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Ohh! Always nice to see a way around immunities if a build is focused on one element. So the envenomed strike idea sounds supergreat. Do we know if envenomed strike stacks from the same character?



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Do we know if envenomed strike stacks from the same character?

Have tested it. It doesn't stack.
Envenomed Strike remaining duration (rem_dr) gets refreshed and set to the duration of second appliance (if that one is greater than rem_dr). (that would be v4 type of stacking)
And same thing happens for multiple characters.

At least it properly gets the double tick-rate from the Cleansing Flames.

P.S. Actually every dot I have tested so far gets the double tick rate from the CF.
Including Wounding.
Including even Cleansing Flames itself.
In the log it might display, CF: deals 153 dmg over 15s. But when you count the ticks, instead of 6 (for 25.5 dmg) there are 11.

Edited by MaxQuest, 21 May 2016 - 10:04 AM.

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Envenomed Strike used to stack - but they patched it long time ago because of blunderbusses. :)

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I decided to give this build a try in a solo PoTD play playthrough. I have to say it's a lot of fun!
Its perfectly viable for solo if you can get past the beginning. Once you get the level 4 spells it's just a matter of pulling the spells of without dying.
Just a question, why interdiction? Dazed and Weakened are great debuffs, but isn't it better just knocking everything prone with Pillar of Faith and then killing everyone with shining beacon (after you buffed yourself of course), i did that agains Cail the Silent at least, worked pretty well, even after I messed up with the Adra Beetle and ended up with the drake at my face.
Also, I was really tempted to take the Secrets of Rime talent just to spam Iconic Projection, such a great spell.
Last, instead of the weapon focus wouldn't be better to take Galant Focus since it also applies to spells?

(Sorry about my bad English, rs)


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The prone effect of Pillar of Faith is checked against Fortitude. Weakened strongly lowers Fortitude and Will. You're more likely to hit (or even crit) that prone effect agaisnt weakened foes. That's one reason there.

 

Shining beacon is checked against will. So weakened helps there as well.

 

Dazed helps keep you alive. It also has the side-effect of slightly lowering reflex; helping several spells you have that target reflex (like the crushing portion of Pillar of Faith or Storm of Holy Fire).

 

Painful Interdiction is also per encounter, casts quickly, and covers a large area.

 

Edit: For solo, Weakened will also make it easier to kite your enemies.


Edited by TWPE, 31 May 2016 - 11:03 AM.

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:grin:  Have tried with this build to meet the following challenge: 

- Solo

- Naked

- Encounter: Alpine Dragon

- Difficulty: PotD

 

Just the other day I tried this fight several times, with a full party. Got violated so bad.

So I'll just have to say I hate you and I hate your stupid video and now I'm going off to cry in my bed.


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I take always gallant focus in solo, it is like have a weapon focus but better sice it affects also spell and abilities. Never leave home without. Also the druid Mark per encounter can do wonders at the beginning of the game, later when you have better things to spam you can always respect.

PS: i was also dubious about the interdiction and painful interdiction, never liked much that ability since i thought that the duration was too short. But after trying this build i have changed my mind. It is actually fast to cast and lower opponent def more than other things. And is per fight and not per rest. And have really a huge area. Since as a Priest you have quite a lot of freedom in chosing talents ( apart from fire DMG bonus and +10 accuracy to the aoe heal ) i think that interdiction is a solid pick

Edited by Dr <3, 31 May 2016 - 12:29 PM.


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Hah, soz Jarmo :)

But I still had to use few scrolls as that pesky lizard doesn't wait for your to buff yourself.
Don't know if you need any tips, but if you do, here are few general strategies:
v1. classic: let main tank solo (dedicated paladin or fighter) tank the dragon, while the rest of the party (placed far from breath) deals with adds.
v2. charm the dragon. Let him help you clear the adds. Than kill the dragon. (for example: petrify + disintegrate + envenomed + cleansing flames)
v3. confuse the adds. Let them keep him busy while you buff your self and cast the AoEs. Try to time it so that the dragon dies simultaneously with the adds.

I take always gallant focus in solo, it is like have a weapon focus but better sice it affects also spell and abilities. Never leave home without. Also the druid Mark per encounter can do wonders at the beginning of the game, later when you have better things to spam you can always respect.

You are right.
The reason I didn't take them is that I wasn't thinking about solo. I needed a priest for my six-man party, built in such a way that he could contribute more than just via buffs.
The idea to test him vs Alpine came latter :)

Just a question, why interdiction? Dazed and Weakened are great debuffs, but isn't it better just knocking everything prone with Pillar of Faith and then killing everyone with shining beacon (after you buffed yourself of course).
Last, instead of the weapon focus wouldn't be better to take Galant Focus since it also applies to spells.

Interdiction helps with those who are immune to prone. And to land longer cc in general. Also by debuffing their will it's easier to land Shinning Beacon.
Although the real reason is that how nicely does it complement other members in my party: barbarian with stunning weapons and bruteforce, wizard with pale shades and two ciphers spamming: detonate, charm, mental binding and amplified wave. That's like instant +20 acc to everyone. And per-encounter.

As for Galant's focus, sure feel free to take it. Weapon foci are more for the flavour. Personally I've taken bonus 4th spell.
Although better check first if it stacks with blessing.

Edited by MaxQuest, 31 May 2016 - 01:09 PM.

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Question: Does Scion of Flame work with the DoT spells like Shining Beacon? For some reason, I have it in my head that it does not.



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Question: Does Scion of Flame work with the DoT spells like Shining Beacon? For some reason, I have it in my head that it does not.

It doesn't.
But it works with fire sigils, storm of holy fire, searing seal, pillar of holy fire and fireballs.
Also it works with curoc's brand and fire lash.

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Fire sigils?



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Fire sigils?


Uhm, meant symbols (of Magran and Eothas).

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Fire sigils?


Uhm, meant symbols (of Magran and Eothas).

 

 

Ahh. I thought as much but I wasn't sure (you had me googling fire sigils lol).

 

I'm utilizing a similar build to this but I'm my priest worships Wael. This does have the benefit of giving me a damage type that fire immune enemies are often weaker to (including several dragons). So, I'm happy with the trade off (I just have to do something about their fortitude first).



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Thanks for the answers!
 

As for Galant's focus, sure feel free to take it. Weapon foci are more for the flavour. Personally I've taken bonus 4th spell.
Although better check first if it stacks with blessing.

 

It doesn't actually, but until you are able to get the first spell mastery it's a solid pick (or if you just want to ignore Blessing, since it's just +1 acc difference (sure, you will miss the damage Bonus if you decide to do that)).

 

... Since as a Priest you have quite a lot of freedom in chosing talents ( apart from fire DMG bonus and +10 accuracy to the aoe heal ) i think that interdiction is a solid pick

 

 

I also think that Aggrandizing Radiance is a must for every Priest, that +2 stat and move Bonus stacks with everything in the game.
 ‚ÄčOnce you get Minor Avatar that is +10 to every Status, or +12 might and perc. for Champions boon.
‚ÄčThe only Problem is that it's more of a mid-late game Talent, since you really need that healing in the early game. (At least for a solo play)
 


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In terms of debuffing Fortitude, a good alternative is to use a Poisoned Dart Trap. This also inflicts Weakened, but unlike most effects that do so it attacks Deflection rather than Fortitude itself. It also has (at present anyway, I doubt it's intentional) a vastly higher accuracy than it is supposed to. The trap's description says -15, which means it should be -30 (don't ask), but it actually has +11, so a +41 point swing. 
 


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I'm utilizing a similar build to this but I'm my priest worships Wael. This does have the benefit of giving me a damage type that fire immune enemies are often weaker to (including several dragons). So, I'm happy with the trade off (I just have to do something about their fortitude first).

An alternative choice could be going for Scaen. His symbol deals pierce damage against deflection. And no dragon is immune to this damage type. Also it hobbles.

Btw, there is also a Scroll of Insect Swarm. It deals damage totally comparable to that of Shinning Beacon, but it's piercing. And because it is a dot it benefits from x2 tick rate from Cleansing Flames.
The only downside is that it targets Fort instead of Will, and has lower radius, although 31 INT helps alleviate that.

Another scroll I've found useful is Tanglefoot. Huge radius, huge duration. Everyone who is hit by 3s tick is hobbled for 4s (base) or 8s (30 int) period. And because hobbled also reduces movement speed by 3, slow creatures like Adra Dragon are basically rooted in place for 40s.

 

P.S. A random thought about a rogue (with deathblows and deep wounds) who can assist the priest when it comes to scrolls of insect swarm... and also benefit from CF's x2 tick rate.


Edited by MaxQuest, 01 June 2016 - 05:32 AM.


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Another scroll I've found useful is Tanglefoot. Huge radius, huge duration. Everyone who is hit by 3s tick is hobbled for 4s (base) or 8s (30 int) period. And because hobbled also reduces movement speed by 3, slow creatures like Adra Dragon are basically rooted in place for 40s.

 

 

There was a point in my first playthough where EVERY member of my party had this scroll (I love lore). I'd even use it to setup my rogue who'd just run through with hobbled immunity picking off  everything with sabres.



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BTW, does Spark the Soul of the Righteous benefit from Heart of the Storm? From the caster? From the person who was buffed?



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^ It does benefit from the Might of the buffed target. 
It also gives focus to cipher.
I am 99% sure that it will benefit from Heart of the Storm from the characters who are buffed.





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