Qistina Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I will be scared if living in the west...i could become a victim anytime anywhere.... You guys otherwise will not be scared to visit my country...the police will protect you, the people will protect you...if anything happen to you, the whole country will hunt down the culprit In the west, i could get shot, pushed to moving train, got beaten, got harrassed, got stabbed, got verbal abused, being body searched at airport or police station...like what i see in videos and your news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I haven't had as fun reading a thread in ages. It has everything! immigrants, muslims, jews, Hitler, usury, porn and so on. 2 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I would find it amusing if it wasn't so disturbing 1 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 whats a non religious Muslim The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 You have anti-semitism law, the law specially made to protect the Jews, are there any laws to protect you? If you say bad jokes about Jews you will get jailed. Are anyone else got jailed if making bad jokes about anyone else? Think about that yourselves Charlie Hebdo making bad jokes about Muslims, to the point insulting. What happen to their cartoonist who make bad jokes about Jews? The Jews calling us Gentiles... Like this Answer is usually nothing happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qistina Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) You have anti-semitism law, the law specially made to protect the Jews, are there any laws to protect you? If you say bad jokes about Jews you will get jailed. Are anyone else got jailed if making bad jokes about anyone else? Think about that yourselves Charlie Hebdo making bad jokes about Muslims, to the point insulting. What happen to their cartoonist who make bad jokes about Jews? The Jews calling us Gentiles... Like this Answer is usually nothing happens. Really? http://anonhq.com/charlie-hebdo-fired-anti-semitic-cartoonist-ridiculing-judaism-2009/ Not only him got fired, a comedian also got fired making jokes about Jews http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/160569/anti-semitic-comedian-dieudonne-in-hot-water-with-french-authorities Edited November 17, 2015 by Qistina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qistina Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) I don't know why western peoples cannot see all these clearly...i thought western peoples are wise, educated, intellect, civilized...the more i get older the more i disappointed with my own view about western people. I used to think being white is being beautiful, having blond hair is cool, be like western people means being excellent, western people are advance in everything not like my people. As i grow up i see more and more the ugly truth... Despite my picture here, i was westernized, i joined scout you know, "Akela, we do our best!", i am disciplined with western diciplinary. Then i joined school band in which copying British band corp, only recently they changed into American way because of it's a new trend and Drumline movie. My brother playing Scottish Bagpipe and he's good. He always talk about Scottish tradition and he's proud by it. I read western books, my mother was a teacher, so i have many books. I am fantasizing Cinderella, Robin Hood, Ivan Hoe, King Arthur and the Knights of Round Table, Nancy Drew...i sing Twinkle-twinkle Little Star, Little Johny and Old Mac Donald....i am into grunge when i was a teen, because grunge is cool... But now i am older, bit by bit i detach my self from western influences, my thought, idea, belief in western people and western world crashed.... Edited November 17, 2015 by Qistina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) You have anti-semitism law, the law specially made to protect the Jews, are there any laws to protect you? If you say bad jokes about Jews you will get jailed. Are anyone else got jailed if making bad jokes about anyone else? Think about that yourselves Charlie Hebdo making bad jokes about Muslims, to the point insulting. What happen to their cartoonist who make bad jokes about Jews? The Jews calling us Gentiles... Like this Answer is usually nothing happens. Really? http://anonhq.com/charlie-hebdo-fired-anti-semitic-cartoonist-ridiculing-judaism-2009/ As I said usually nothing, but in this case Charlie Hebdo had to pay Maurice Sinet 40000€ for wrongful termination. Meaning that his firing was against law. EDIT: Also just to point out he is also person that said this, in interview shortly after terrorist attack against Jews in Paris 1982, "Yes, I am anti-Semitic and I am not scared to admit it ... I want all Jews to live in fear, unless they are pro-Palestinian. Let them die." EDIT2: Also it isn't only speaks against Jews that can get you fired. As also openly speaking against Islam and Muslims can cause same reaction. http://www.dw.com/en/prominent-french-journalist-and-tv-personality-fired-for-islamophobia/a-18145516 (dated 22.12.2014) "Polarizing French journalist and writer, Eric Zemmour, has been sacked from his recurring gig on a French chat show for the iTELE channel following remarks widely seen as anti-Islamic last week." Edited November 17, 2015 by Elerond 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I don't know why western peoples cannot see all these clearly...i thought western peoples are wise, educated, intellect, civilized...the more i get older the more i disappointed with my own view about western people. I used to think being white is being beautiful, having blond hair is cool, be like western people means being excellent, western people are advance in everything not like my people. As i grow up i see more and more the ugly truth... Despite my picture here, i was westernized, i joined scout you know, "Akela, we do our best!", i am disciplined with western diciplinary. Then i joined school band in which copying British band corp, only recently they changed into American way because of it's a new trend and Drumline movie. My brother playing Scottish Bagpipe and he's good. He always talk about Scottish tradition and he's proud by it. I read western books, my mother was a teacher, so i have many books. I am fantasizing Cinderella, Robin Hood, Ivan Hoe, King Arthur and the Knights of Round Table, Nancy Drew...i sing Twinkle-twinkle Little Star, Little Johny and Old Mac Donald....i am into grunge when i was a teen, because grunge is cool... But now i am older, bit by bit i detach my self from western influences, my thought, idea, belief in western people and western world crashed.... Why do you think that the west has gone bad and what does that have to do with the jews? Go on, let it all out. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I always wondered if oby was female... “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintlockJazz Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I don't know why western peoples cannot see all these clearly...i thought western peoples are wise, educated, intellect, civilized...the more i get older the more i disappointed with my own view about western people. I used to think being white is being beautiful, having blond hair is cool, be like western people means being excellent, western people are advance in everything not like my people. As i grow up i see more and more the ugly truth... Despite my picture here, i was westernized, i joined scout you know, "Akela, we do our best!", i am disciplined with western diciplinary. Then i joined school band in which copying British band corp, only recently they changed into American way because of it's a new trend and Drumline movie. My brother playing Scottish Bagpipe and he's good. He always talk about Scottish tradition and he's proud by it. I read western books, my mother was a teacher, so i have many books. I am fantasizing Cinderella, Robin Hood, Ivan Hoe, King Arthur and the Knights of Round Table, Nancy Drew...i sing Twinkle-twinkle Little Star, Little Johny and Old Mac Donald....i am into grunge when i was a teen, because grunge is cool... But now i am older, bit by bit i detach my self from western influences, my thought, idea, belief in western people and western world crashed.... No one is perfect. Put them on a pedestal and you are setting them up to disappoint you. Doesn't mean you can't share ideals or need to detach yourself from them, pick the ones you like, the ones you believe in, and don't let others tell who that so-and-so ethnicity or religion is evil or bad. The governments are complete ****, but the people in general not, they are just people and you would probably get along with and enjoy meeting them. Funnily enough people here view the Middle-East as romantic and exotic, or at least they used to, not sure now, governments and terror groups seem intent on ruining good perceptions of one another. Don't let the current badness make you reject things you like or detach yourself from other cultures, that's kinda what they want. "That rabbit's dynamite!" - King Arthur, Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail "Space is big, really big." - Douglas Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qistina Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Why do you think that the west has gone bad and what does that have to do with the jews? Go on, let it all out. Because western are bias, look at that video, look at that French, he suddenly changed his tone when talk about mocking islam, he justify it by saying it is freedom of speech, when talk about mocking Jews he attack the guy, the comedian, asking him to apologize. That's bull****, how come you don't see it? No one is perfect. Put them on a pedestal and you are setting them up to disappoint you. Doesn't mean you can't share ideals or need to detach yourself from them, pick the ones you like, the ones you believe in, and don't let others tell who that so-and-so ethnicity or religion is evil or bad. The governments are complete ****, but the people in general not, they are just people and you would probably get along with and enjoy meeting them. Funnily enough people here view the Middle-East as romantic and exotic, or at least they used to, not sure now, governments and terror groups seem intent on ruining good perceptions of one another. Don't let the current badness make you reject things you like or detach yourself from other cultures, that's kinda what they want. You don't understand, my country was under British, we are just 50 years free from British. My family was English educated from English school pre-liberation, so my family is westernized...we eat breakfast with bread, butter and jam while other people eat local breakfast...my uncle was British soldier...my other uncle was Malay Regiment in which local army created by British and royal Malay. So suffice to say my view about western people is high. I read English books while other kids don't care at all...i buy many whithening lotions because i want to become white...but i find out that i just throw away my money pursuing my fantasy...white people don't care if i become white, white people don't care at all, white people don't even know me...then i realized how stupid i am want to become white like Cinderella, Snow White, Belle, Ariel, Barbie....From 1986 to 1999 i live in fantasy world of want to live in Europe or USA, marrying handsome white man like Tom Cruise.... But the real western world and western peoples are far from my fantasy being injected into my brain by my ex-white masters..... Edited November 17, 2015 by Qistina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/17/serbian-police-arrest-man-with-syrian-passport-matching-paris-attackers When Serbia has a better idea of who is crossing its borders than the EU you know that things have gone down the drain. According to the source, French authorities contacted Serbian officials for assistance as Serbia maintains a detailed register of all refugees who pass through its borders. Edited November 17, 2015 by Drowsy Emperor И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 @Qistina: If it hasn't been banned yet, I would recommend a story written by a fellow countryman of mine a few centuries ago (I was born Danish) called "The Ugly Duckling". Sounds to me that you are suffering an identity crisis and feel betrayed by what you first wanted to be (and therefore reacting with hostility towards anything related to it). “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namutree Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Well, most of the cultural clashes that the West has had with the Muslim world were with the extremist elements. So that's were they're coming from; except that incidentally those clashes came about mostly because of two reasons: the Cold War and the state of Israel. I know in the west there is hijab ban, you ban Muslim women wear hijab. Muslim women cannot get job because wearing hijab. You western say if MOSLEM want to live in the west must follow western values. That's what western say...especially France... There is no such similar law in Muslim countries i ever heard of...you Christians can wear whatever you want...you are not a subject to Muslim rule. In my country there are two courts, Shariah Court for Muslims and Civil Court for Muslim AND non-Muslim. Means us Muslim here have to worry about two laws, Muslim law and secular laws. Non-Muslim only worry about secular laws.... Not in the USA. No Hijab bans here. I can't make any claims about Europe, but here, you can wear hijabs all you want. "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qistina Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) @Qistina: If it hasn't been banned yet, I would recommend a story written by a fellow countryman of mine a few centuries ago (I was born Danish) called "The Ugly Duckling". Sounds to me that you are suffering an identity crisis and feel betrayed by what you first wanted to be (and therefore reacting with hostility towards anything related to it). lol, i know the story, it's not being banned, it's children book. And no, it's not the case, i am not ugly am i? I just get fooled by trends made by the west, through movies, advertisements, magazines, make up industries...Jem was my favorite cartoon in the 80s, so i think you get the idea how i grow up. The TV is full of western movies...Airwolf, Knight Rider, James Bond, Disney cartoons, Bionic Woman, what western movies i don't watch? Then we have teen movies like Mean Girls, Princess Diary and much more... My mom love to buy magazines, i got poisoned by it...from (late 70s) 80s fashion, to 90s, and now Islamic fashion trend... I am going through phases of my life and i realize what is fantasy and what is real... Oh yes i forgot...make up advertisement ALWAYS about being white...and whiter... Edited November 17, 2015 by Qistina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 lol, i know the story, it's not being banned, it's children book. And no, it's not the case, i am not ugly am i? I just get fooled by trends made by the west, through movies, advertisements, magazines, make up industries...Jem was my favorite cartoon in the 80s, so i think you get the idea how i grow up. The TV is full of western movies...Airwolf, Knight Rider, James Bond, Disney cartoons, Bionic Woman, what western movies i don't watch? Then we have teen movies like Mean Girls, Princess Diary and much more... No, not implying any ugliness. The point of the tale is that the "duckling" feels like the rest of his surroundings consider him as such, until he realises that those opinions aren't what matters, even if he has to suffer a lot in the process (and discovers his own identity and value in the process) “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Actually, its illegal (but unenforceable) to wear the US flag as clothing. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qistina Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 lol, i know the story, it's not being banned, it's children book. And no, it's not the case, i am not ugly am i? I just get fooled by trends made by the west, through movies, advertisements, magazines, make up industries...Jem was my favorite cartoon in the 80s, so i think you get the idea how i grow up. The TV is full of western movies...Airwolf, Knight Rider, James Bond, Disney cartoons, Bionic Woman, what western movies i don't watch? Then we have teen movies like Mean Girls, Princess Diary and much more... No, not implying any ugliness. The point of the tale is that the "duckling" feels like the rest of his surroundings consider him as such, until he realises that those opinions aren't what matters, even if he has to suffer a lot in the process (and discovers his own identity and value in the process) I am born whiter than my siblings, they are a bit jealous about that...being white was and still important for most of us...up to today there are a lot of products about "white beauty"...that's how wetern influencing the east...i used to belive drinking so much soy bean juice will turn me white...and mothers believe that too, they drink so much soy bean juice hoping their baby will become white.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namutree Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Actually, its illegal (but unenforceable) to wear the US flag as clothing. Wasn't my point. "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I know it's no comfort, but western girls are just as much victims of fictive "ideals". The fashion industry is a real killer. If curious, try looking up anorexia and suicide rates, cyber bullying, etc. The "western world" is a lot more brutal and cruel than most people give it credit for, not just against other people, but in particular it's own people. Edit to add: It's not all bad of course, but the trick is to adopt the good parts and discard the bad parts and then determine your own way “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qistina Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Yes, and that's what i do, i don't believe in western bullcrap anymore, western values are not as good as it appear to be, it's cosmetic and hypocrite. In one side it looks like a perfect world, the other side showing how ugly it is. Western people always want to impose values toward other people, always love to portray people like this and like that, love to label other peoples. Western people think this world is their own and they have rights in everything. They judge other people like they are so high and mighty. They interfere other people business and making it as if it is their own business. Invade other countries take what they want and then calling the people they rob as savages, terrorists and anything they want. Why not western people just stick to their country live in harmony with the rest of the people on earth? Who are the west want to set world morality and values? And now western people are whining why peoples hate them, why someone want to blow up their building, why someone want to kill them....western peoples live in terror....the terror they create themselves.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Hmm.. Msn- France swats aside EU Budget rules in rearmament blitz France has invoked emergency powers to sweep aside EU deficit rules and retake control over its economy after the terrorist atrocities in Paris, pledging a massive increase in security and defence spending whatever the cost. President Francois Hollande said vital interests of the French nation are at stake and there can be no further justification for narrowly-legalistic deficit rules imposed by Brussels. "The security pact takes precedence over the stability pact. France is at war," he told the French parliament. Defence cuts have been cancelled as far out as 2019 as the country prepares to step up its campaign to "eradicate" ISIS, from the Sahel in West Africa, across the Maghreb, to Syria and Iraq. At least 17,000 people will be recruited to beef up the security apparatus and the interior ministry, fast becoming the nerve centre of the country's all-encompassing war against the ISIS network. The new forces include 5,000 new police and gendarmes, 1,000 customs officials, and 2,500 prison guards. "I assume it will lead to an increase in expenses," he said. The combined effect amounts to a fiscal stimulus and may ultimately cushion the economic damage of terrorist attacks for the tourist industry, but the "rearmament" drive spells the end of any attempt to meet deficit limit of 3pc of GDP enshrined in the Stability and Growth Pact. With France in open defiance, the reconstituted pact is now effectively dead. The European Commission expects the French deficit to be 3.4pc of GDP next year and 3.3pc in 2017, but the real figure is likely to be much higher and will last through to the end of the decade. The concern is that this could push the country's debt yet higher from 96.5pc of GDP to nearer 100pc, made worse by the effects of deflation on debt dynamics. Mr Hollande said France will invoke article 42.7 of the Lisbon Treaty, the solidarity clause obliging other member states to come to his country's help by "all means in their power". It would be beyond parody for Brussels to continue insisting on budget rules in such a political context. The French economy is slowly recovering as the triple effects of a weak euro, cheap oil, and quantitative easing by the European Central Bank combine to create a short-term blast of stimulus, but it still remains remarkably depressed a full six years into the post-Lehman cycle of global expansion. Growth crept up to 0.3pc in the third quarter after stalling earlier in the year. Unemployment is still stuck at 10.7pc and has actually risen over recent months. "Momentum may fade in 2017 as tailwinds peter out," said the Commission. Professor Brigitte Granville from Queen Mary University of London said the country has been losing competitiveness within Europe's monetary union for so long - not helped by a labour code still 3,648 pages - that it is now caught in a stagnation trap with the wrong intra-EMU exchange rate. She warned that the country is on a slow slide towards economic "catastrophe". A study by Nobel economist Gary Becker found that "the fear created by terrorism has huge and enduring effects on human behaviour," often out all proportion to the actual risk. This makes it extremely hard to predict the economic effects. Tourism to Israel fell by two-thirds during the eighteen months after the Al-Aqsa Intifada, and air travel in the US fell by 15pc in the year following the Twin Towers attack on 2001. The paper concluded that people are ultimately rational and learn to control their fear. Life goes on as normal. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakai Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 love to label other peoples Isn't it exactly what you're doing right now too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qistina Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 love to label other peoples Isn't it exactly what you're doing right now too? If the west don't start it, i won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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