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Posting quotes from The Notebook is going too far.

 

 

Agreed. That's just pure evil.

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"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
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"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

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The video shows good points about human interactions, i give you that. But i can't think of any greater change in human history that hasn't occured when people weren't pissed of at something. 

 

Just be wise enough to know which battles to pick in life :)

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"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

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Well what a surprise, arguments are maintained when more people take part in them, how revelatory.

 

Honestly, whom exactly would have thought this shocking news in any way, shape or form?

Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.

I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin.

 

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Well, I suppose it's better than fighting it out with bombs and AKs.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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Thing is, there have always been two sides to GG- or any identifiable group, really- and the Nyberg stuff and other things which are going on epitomises that. There's always one part which loves the outrage and believes that anything is fine so long as it is directed at the right people, their enemies, and the others who don't agree with that approach. The first group is simultaneously the most committed and least committed to the 'cause' because they're deep believers, but only in their particular vision and approach so if the movement as a whole shifts away from their vision they're also the ones who start the internecine attacks. Milo/ Breitbart writing about Nyberg is- and I could not agree more with Keyrock- basically just click and outrage bait with the promise that there can be follow up articles about all their political enemies who are defending the 'pedophile' but it is ambrosia to the people who love drama and 'getting' the opposition.

 

Nyberg is at best an utter moron but as much as 'joking' about being a pedophile is gross stupidity using alleged pedophilia as clickbait and a gotcha! for opponents is hardly the height of integrity either. Especially since she is innocent until proven guilty and I very strongly suspect some will see anyone saying that as being a 'defender' of her. I utterly loathe that sort of approach whoever it comes from, it's used so often with emotive topics to gain cheap and easy points and to label anyone disagreeing as being pro pedophilia/ terrorism/ drugs/ crime/ domestic violence/ misogyny or whatever; and it is exactly what they would accuse sjws of doing.

 

There is a peripherally relevant point in illustrating that some people (and some journalists) will absolve Nyberg of anything, even the 'crime' of being stupid but really, anybody who is surprised by that must spend all their time on the internet reattaching their bottom jaw after it drops off for the twentieth time that day.

 

Some of it is pretty funny though. Seeing some people in GG start labelling others as being 'sjws' or 'sjw lite' because they don't perfectly agree with them/ don't like Breitbart/ aren't outraged enough/ actually do believe that more minorities or women in gaming would be a good thing is almost directly equivalent to a lot of what they accuse aGG of doing with labelling closet gators/ backing unethical journalists that spout stuff they like/ not blanket hating everything the other side says just because it is them saying it. It's all inevitable, but I still find it acutely ironic and amusing  that in any group it is always the radicals who believe in their own ideological purity but are always- always- utter hypocrites in practice.

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Well what a surprise, arguments are maintained when more people take part in them, how revelatory.

 

Honestly, whom exactly would have thought this shocking news in any way, shape or form?

 

 

Hardly the point of the video, but I suppose different folks will draw different conclusions from the same information.

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"Seeing some people in GG start labelling others as being 'sjws' or 'sjw lite' because they don't perfectly agree with them"

 

Nazi SJW detected.

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 Good thing I'm no SJW and I don't live in a Fantasy land where I quote fantasy garbage like SW like it's a 'fact'. Though, it is bad enough I am stuck knowing what a 'sith' is. :(

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only a sith deals in absolutes

I guess that explains why he was called Darth Plato.

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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Perks of gaming is that we could do that too.

I doubt any of the subhumans in this soap opera play proper shooters though :p

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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Regarding Nyberg and #ObsidianCaves, turns out that one of the maniacs that was running a campaign to, in her own words, "pressure" Obsidian to removed the Firedorn memorial is one of the most fanatical defenders of Nyberg, saying that all the accusations are fabricated.

This person is no other than Katherine Cross that works on Feminist Frequency (even when ppl in this forum were claiming she didnt) She also attacked John Bain aka Totalbiscuit saying he's transphobic (her go-to attack) and did the same against Mark Kern, lead designer for vanilla wow, but in his case she didn't name him by name.

While not directly related to the Nyberg thing, another person that was trying to pressure Obsidian and directly contacted Josh Sawyer was Ian Miles Cheong, he has distanced himself greatly from the whole Social Justice/Politically Correct movement in gaming a few months ago and sounds regretful for having taken part on that, according to him getting outraged was like an addiction when he was onboard with the SJW/PC crowd.

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He is talking about interviewing TotalBiscuit. The funny thing Russ Pitts is so very far from being any kind of sympathetic to GG. But you even talk to the wrong person and SJW-Ben will cut you off like the westboro baptist church cuts off apostates.

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when you put together evidence that Sarah Nyberg is a hypocrite, Anita Sarkeesian is a hypocrite, Brianna Wu is a hypocrite (also completely crazy), Jonathan Macintosh is a hypocrite, Arthur Chu is a hypocrite, Ian Miles-Cheon will switch sides at the drop of a hat and is a hypocrite, it's a little difficult not to sense a pattern forming, and I see nothing wrong with pointing out said pattern.

 

What is funny however, is that Sarah Nyberg has spent the last year accusing 8chan for hosting child porn, GG being a of bunch White Power racists and misogynists. How she is exposed as the very thing she accused GG of being is just hysterical.

 

Yeah, there does seem to be an unfortunate pattern there. Not among aGG as a whole, but among some of the "twitter celebrities" of aGG; the generals of their army in this flame-war, so to speak.

 

The pattern seems to be:

  1. Involved in the nastiest depths of internet subculture in their youth (paedophilia chatrooms, Hitler worship, etc.).

     

  2. Then "grew up" and "saw the light", converting to the "righteous cause" of social justice.

     

  3. Now projecting the actions of their youth onto the current generation of Internet kids and gamers, prejudging them all to be vile scum who deserve a good beating.

All the while, they don't realize that being underhanded and merciless in the name of social justice is no better than being a terrible person in the name of other forms of bigotry.

 

At the same time, though, I agree with Amentep that GG did not handle the Nyberg story well. Milo's article seemed petty and aimed at character assassination rather than protecting children. And the dogpiling that followed by GG'ers against Nyberg and her supporters, didn't really help anything.

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Guess who is going to have a speech about "cyber-violence" at the U.N. on september 24th? I am going to let you google that yourself.

 

This is the world we live in now. These are the values celebrated. These are the heroes of our time.

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"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

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