"This poll is solely related to POE, please do not make comparisons to "other" buggy released games to justify the label "Finished product." Simply weigh up the state of completion of POE on its release and consider the amount of changes and fixes brought into the game based on both community feedback and developer input. Also consider whether the game is "Playable but not complete." and if it is subject to "Further development" or not."
If you already think you're right, why bother asking other people?
Its a poll, that's what a poll is for, right?
How does making a poll negate the point of a discussion thread?
I disagree, for some reason that I cannot fathom, most people don't.
Playing games is not about playing them anymore it seems, its about finding bugs and reporting them as we play.....
Hmmm.... where are our salaries?
Oh, okay, so you're not actually looking for discussion, you just want to moan and complain.
Nope, not moan and complain.
Its called expressing a truth, oh and sense of humor... Heard of that? OK so it is dry humor so it is not everyone's cup of tea I know...
I do find it interesting though, that you decided to make a personal attack towards me. I find it even more interesing that people like the fact that you made a personal attack....
The game industry, as it stands, uses customers as beta testers after getting their money.
Sometimes they don't even patch the games fully and drop support leaving the "community" to fix their game for them.
I know Obsidian have committed to supporting this game after release and that is applaudable.
I know they have worked hard to patch the game so and that is also applaudable.
It does not mean that I have to agree with the current business modal.
If games were to:
a) Stay longer in production. And to avoid "when is the game coming out!" demands don't announce it until close to its completion.
b) Provide the full game for extended beta testing to catch at least the major bugs before releasing an incomplete game.
c) Provide Early Access. Yes this has pros and cons, as mentioned before. Just because releasing unfinished game is a con of Early access, it does not justify releasing an unfinished game marketed as a finished one for the sake of avoiding Early Access.
It would be a better business model in my opinion.
I simply don't believe in releasing buggy games for the consumer to get involved in fixing and POE is admitted to have had 1000's of bugs at release.
For me, I cannot play it in its current state as of patch 1.05 (1.06 pending) due to the combat mechanics not working correctly and some still reported bugs in the main plot line. I also do not want to play a game where enemy abilities bug party member abilities permanently.
I do not want to be in a fight where enemy AOE heals my party members in a game that is heavily filled with combat that has enemy AOE effects. Or a game where the enemy may bug your party members abilities, thus breaking the combat again.
Other bugs such as missing endurance, faulty Paladin auras, various stacking abilities, sound glitches, side quests broken, and so on, are a minor annoyance and I can deal with. But not broken combat mechanics in a game full of combat.
It is great they are patching, and patching fast, but as a customer I have still paid for a product that I personally am unable to use after owning it for 2 months.
I know I am not the only person who is not playing the game in its current state due to bugs. I have read many other posts over the net with people expressing the same thing.
That is why I spend my time collecting a bug thread for the community:
Edited by Baladas, 28 May 2015 - 02:21 AM.