Jojobobo Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 So yes, I know you have to upgrade the Main Keep for Azzuro to crop up, but what specifically makes him appear? Does Prestige/Security have any affect? Does he only arrive on a new Stronghold "turn" (which I'm lead to believe pass when quest states change enough) or can he appear if you rest enough? I'm playing a solo PotD Rogue and want Hiro's Mantle even with the Retaliation nerf as the DR is nice and Deep Wounds should make Retaliation quite a bit nicer. However there seem to be very few details on what needs to be done to get him to appear and sell stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 According the strategy guide, he unlocks when the merchant stalls are built (Main Keep). For what it's worth, I'm about to hit the 400 hour mark, and I've seen him 3 times (twice in 1 game, once in another, not at all for the rest). Don't plan builds around any of his gear because odds are you'll never see it. "Art and song are creations but so are weapons and lies" "Our worst enemies are inventions of the mind. Pleasure. Fear. When we see them for what they are, we become unstoppable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojobobo Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Well that sucks - so it's really a case of Vengiatta Rugia (which is by no means an early game item), Sura's Supper Plate (which seems crap) and getting lucking on Hiro's Mantle for a chance at getting a Retaliation item? I guess I'll build the Merchant Stalls early and hope for the best, making sure not to fast travel too great a distance in one (I've missed out on some items that way on previous characters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaigen42 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I don't think Merchant Stalls are actually necessary for Azzuro to appear. I haven't successfully managed to get Azzuro to appear in my keep yet, but in my current playthrough he tried to visit but was repulsed by bandits even though I haven't built the stalls yet. As long as you have the Main Keep, along with sufficiently high Prestige to draw him and sufficiently high Security to keep him from being attacked on the way, I think his arrival is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 It kind of sucks that he appears so sporadically, especially when you consider that not all items he sells may be palatable for your current play through. He appeared three times in my first play through and I was fairly disappointed at not being able to acquire all his items. "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crucis Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 What's particularly annoying is that his stay is too short. I've missed him on a few occasions when I'm making a relatively long trip from place to place and he's arrived and left before I had a chance to buy what he was selling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 From p39: "Rare Items When the Merchant Stalls upgrade has been made, it's possible to buy goods at the stonghold. Some are more valuable than others and there are even some unique items to buy. Here are all the unique items (see the Armor section of this guide for details) sold by Azzuro, the Rare Items Merchant:" *pic of rare items* "Art and song are creations but so are weapons and lies" "Our worst enemies are inventions of the mind. Pleasure. Fear. When we see them for what they are, we become unstoppable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RtrnofdMax Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Also, if you do manage to have him show up over the course of overland travel, you can reload before you traveled to get the exact item you want. Then again, if you're willing to do that, you might as well console yourself the item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaigen42 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Like I said, I haven't successfully managed to get Azzuro to the Stronghold so I can buy something from him yet, so I could be wrong. But I'm inclined to take anything the strategy guide says with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crucis Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I guess that I wish that Azzuro would just set up shop in the Stronghold, or sell his items to the local Stronghold weapons merchant as they become available. Frankly, I'm not overly fond of random drops of unique items. Random drops of generic items, no big deal. But random drops of unique items, particularly good ones, is annoying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Like I said, I haven't successfully managed to get Azzuro to the Stronghold so I can buy something from him yet, so I could be wrong. But I'm inclined to take anything the strategy guide says with a grain of salt. As am I, since stats, etc change frequently while they balance the game. However 1) this wouldn't be a balance change and 2) there a difference between "grain of salt" and "ignoring a blatant statement without solid disconfirming evidence". "Art and song are creations but so are weapons and lies" "Our worst enemies are inventions of the mind. Pleasure. Fear. When we see them for what they are, we become unstoppable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojobobo Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Just realised that I can use Coat of Ill Payment instead for retaliation, but I'd wager to say (judging from earlier bounties I have done) it's a pain to get. Argwes Adra + Hiro's Mantle would really be the superior option, particularly now 1.05 allows for Second Chance when you're the only person in your party left standing (i.e. all of solo play). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Just realised that I can use Coat of Ill Payment instead for retaliation, but I'd wager to say (judging from earlier bounties I have done) it's a pain to get. Argwes Adra + Hiro's Mantle would really be the superior option, particularly now 1.05 allows for Second Chance when you're the only person in your party left standing (i.e. all of solo play). You'll have to admit that it would look more than a little sub par, however—a green armor with a red cloak, ugh "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaigen42 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Like I said, I haven't successfully managed to get Azzuro to the Stronghold so I can buy something from him yet, so I could be wrong. But I'm inclined to take anything the strategy guide says with a grain of salt.As am I, since stats, etc change frequently while they balance the game. However 1) this wouldn't be a balance change and 2) there a difference between "grain of salt" and "ignoring a blatant statement without solid disconfirming evidence". Here, since my report about Azzuro trying to visit without a Merchant Stalls wasn't "solid" enough for you, I used IE Mod's AdvanceTimeByHours command to generate this: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yes, people are much more inclined to believe you when you support the things you say with evidence. Sorry that I had to be the one to break that to you. "Art and song are creations but so are weapons and lies" "Our worst enemies are inventions of the mind. Pleasure. Fear. When we see them for what they are, we become unstoppable." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaigen42 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yes, people are much more inclined to believe you when you support the things you say with evidence. Sorry that I had to be the one to break that to you. Well, we don't all have the luxury of being able to appeal to the authority of the strategy guide. Also @Jojobobo, since I don't think anyone has specifically answered this part of your question: Stronghold guests, including Azzuro, work on game time rather than turns, so theoretically you could get him to spawn by traveling around or resting a bunch. Since he only offers one item at a time and it's random, though, I wouldn't recommend trying that if you're looking for a specific item. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojobobo Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yes, people are much more inclined to believe you when you support the things you say with evidence. Sorry that I had to be the one to break that to you. Well, we don't all have the luxury of being able to appeal to the authority of the strategy guide. Also @Jojobobo, since I don't think anyone has specifically answered this part of your question: Stronghold guests, including Azzuro, work on game time rather than turns, so theoretically you could get him to spawn by traveling around or resting a bunch. Since he only offers one item at a time and it's random, though, I wouldn't recommend trying that if you're looking for a specific item. Thanks, that was exactly what I was looking for (wasn't sure if it was done on the turns basis like other things are). I might give chain resting a go if I'm feeling masochistic enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraving Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I have definitely had Azzuro show up when I did not have the merchant stall built. I had all upgrades except the stall and the dungeons built at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Darkholme Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 You don't need the stalls and you don't need 400 hours playtime, lol. He seems to start appearing from . 30 prestige up. I got Hiros on my solo pala run as about the fifth item Azurro sold, my prestige was 56 by then. I also bought every item he offered to make sure he doesn't offer another one twice. 1 My twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/victorcreed_twitch My youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/VictorCreedGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojobobo Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Thanks Raven, this now seems a lot easier than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperlord1337 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Azzuro vistis my stronghold every two weeks selling average stuff - he seems to not scale his store with party level ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I don't think that was ever the intention. Azzuro always offers you a unique item pulled at random from a pool of uniques that may only be purchased from him. "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaunt Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 In my first playthrough, Azzurro arrived once. The second playthrough - never. On this third run, he has arrived twice and both times I missed him due to the long travel times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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