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http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/16/politics/donald-trump-2016-announcement-elections/index.html

 

I see Donald Trump is running, who will be supporting him? I imagine KP and GD....maybe Hurlshot ?

I am. He's the only one who's not a corporate sell-out.

 

Interesting, so Trump will have his valid suporters

 

The Republican nomination is going to be interesting. WOD you should work on convincing Hurlshot to vote Trump, if you can convince the Californian liberals to vote  for  him then the battle is basically won.

 

Except Trump won't make it out of the Primary. One of the awkward things about the American system is that there's a rediculously long campaign cycle for the primaries (with Iowa's being first in just under 9 months or so) but the actual "main" election taking place in a short 2 month cycle (from the conventions in August to November).

 

What we're seeing now with the declarations etc, is several people saying "I want free PR" and making the splash for their new product (This was Herman Cain last time too). The media, being the hype machine it is, considers each candidate the same way. If there is one not marred by scandal, a scandal shall be found and used against the candidate to get viewership.

 

Thing is, right now, calling the election is flat out irresponsible. The few elections I've lived through have always had strong starters with lots of political background in the national level... but end up with a completely different group after the years long winnowing. Obama was not even on my radar in 2008 (admittedly my radar was kinda blinded by the whole "You're in the Navy for a month and a half" schtick) and yet he beat out Hillary at the end (Mostly because of John Edwards giving his support after that guy dropped out).

 

I feel like a younger candidate without the Palin rock around his neck could have easily taken the White House. But even after the general election is on, parties make REALLY stupid moves (Apparently when Palin was announced, my grandfather, a diehard republican who was 82, declared that McCain had just lost).

 

We'll probably see a few more people come out of the wood work to try for the Democratic ticket, but Hillary is SO big within the establishment that it'll be hard to unseat her. Although Sanders could do it given his mass appeal, but the guy seriously needs to convince people to believe in him winning, rather than him being a counterpoint. On the Republican ticket:

Jeb's got the anchor of his brother around his neck.

Ben Carson's only press has made him just unlikable.

Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham and Huckabee are seen as part of the establishment and possibly crazy people.

George Pataki we haven't heard much about, but he was Governor of NY state and that place is more corrupt than Chicago

Carly Fiorina relatively unknown politically, CEO of HP and managed to almost kill that company.

Rand Paul has a chance because he actually seems to stand by his convictions

Rick Perry is the "Oops" guy and may or may not be a Felon

Marco Rubio has a chance because he's got the minority and relative junior status to him

Santorum's still got that whole "I hate gays" thing that ruined his chances last time

And the Donald.

 

The only other people that might have a shot that I know of (and Wikipedia lists) is Chris Christie of New Jersey who's not in great shape politically after the Bridge issue and blatantly ignoring his voters in favor of another state as Governor. And Scott Walker who's only known for trying to murder Union's in the state of Wisconsin (figuratively speaking)

 

Should point out that Joe Biden might still toss himself into the frey to take the Nomination from Hillary.

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People's Republic of Kalifornia is beyond redemption. The best thing is to give it back to Mexico.

 

Edit: @Hurl Yes, Trump is very rich. Of course we don't want successful people to be President. What we need is a community organizer who's never achieved anything and has no competencies (except lie and get himself elected through lies).

 

 

Considering California is back up to number 8 in terms of world economies, I'm pretty sure Mexico would love that.  

 

Also, Agriculture:

 

http://westernfarmpress.com/tree-nuts/what-happens-if-us-loses-california-food-production

 

Oh yeah, we also have a tremendously fiscally conservative governor who is against legalizing pot, bans on fracking, and gun control bills.  They call him Moonbeam.

 

edit:  Have you even watched Trump's reality show?  

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Considering California is back up to number 8 in terms of world economies, I'm pretty sure Mexico would love that.  

  

edit:  Have you even watched Trump's reality show?

See, it's a win-win. No, I don't watch "reality shows" except for Pawn Stars and the news.

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Just because your unpatriotic state wants out of the Union, doesn't mean every other state wants out.   :dancing:

 

 

So you won't watch his reality show, but you will back him for president?   :blink:

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They made Cassandra Pentaghast look like a man. We have to protect beautiful women from the sex negative feminists and the sex negative LGBT's.

 

Vote for ANY republican in 2016!

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So you won't watch his reality show, but you will back him for president? blink.png

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I support this man as president.

 

 

That's the thing about Trump, the Democrats shouldn't have to worry too much about him as he will self-implode....I don't even think his policies will wreck his chances. It will just be his general comments  :yes:

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Why's that?

You've always left me with the impression that on a socio-economic scale of 0-10 (Left to Right) you like to think of yourself as a 4, but your commentaries on this or that topic of the day indicate otherwise. Just an observation.

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Just because your unpatriotic state wants out of the Union, doesn't mean every other state wants out.   dancing.gif

Texas is what's left of America.

 

So you won't watch his reality show, but you will back him for president?   blink.png

It's not that I'm a huge fan of Trump, it's just that I think he'll get the job done, in spite of his faults. And look at the alternatives, a bunch of lying corporate sell-outs, one of the most corrupt and dishonest people ever, or a Socialist who apparently thinks the Soviet Union was heaven on earth, since he honeymooned there.

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I will say, since 2013 at the Des Moines airport there's been a "We're ready for Hillary" billboard that only went down when she announced.

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Shady I have a bad feeling about him, I don't want you to be disappointed later  :blink:

 

You cannot vote for someone who hates the media...this means he doesn't understand how society operates 

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You cannot vote for someone who hates the media...this means he doesn't understand how society operates

I find the left's fellation of Sanders to be pretty annoying but what?

 

The article states he hates "mainstream" media as its directly in the pocket of corporations and (to quote him) “insults the intelligence of American citizens daily, and is even further removed from the reality of everyday life than the average politician.” How you can interpret that as a negative thing is beyond me.

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Complaining about consolidation of power is a negative thing apparently.

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You cannot vote for someone who hates the media...this means he doesn't understand how society operates

I find the left's fellation of Sanders to be pretty annoying but what?

 

The article states he hates "mainstream" media as its directly in the pocket of corporations and (to quote him) “insults the intelligence of American citizens daily, and is even further removed from the reality of everyday life than the average politician.” How you can interpret that as a negative thing is beyond me.

 

Baro you are a bright guy and I'm really glad we haven't had many debates on opposite sides but this is one area we disagree on. The role and or importance of Capitalism and the West

 

When he says " mainstream " does he mean like CNN and FOX or does he mean smaller local media ?

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You cannot vote for someone who hates the media...this means he doesn't understand how society operates

I find the left's fellation of Sanders to be pretty annoying but what?

 

The article states he hates "mainstream" media as its directly in the pocket of corporations and (to quote him) “insults the intelligence of American citizens daily, and is even further removed from the reality of everyday life than the average politician.” How you can interpret that as a negative thing is beyond me.

 

Baro you are a bright guy and I'm really glad we haven't had many debates on opposite sides but this is one area we disagree on. The role and or importance of Capitalism and the West

 

When he says " mainstream " does he mean like CNN and FOX or does he mean smaller local media ?

 

I think it means the people and companies who have enough money to cover national level discussions. He hates the AP, and the other news networks are probably part of that group.

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Trump is the accelerationist candidate.

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Make that man president. He would bring laughs for everyone.

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"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
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"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

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Scientists are all in on a massive conspiracy under the command of China to screw over US production.

 

Trump is so brilliant.

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Rand Paul is still on the fence with TPP. He needs to make up his mind already.

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Apparently Webb is about to get in : http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/27/webb-close-to-2016-decision-insiders-say-clinton-camp-helped-delay-launch/ Unfortunately the Democrat party is probably now too radical for him to get the nomination. Looking at the electoral map, the next President will probably be a Democrat, so it would be good to have an alternative to Horrible Hillary and a Socialist.

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