213374U Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Yet you still de-railed the thread more egregiously than I did, presumably because I pressed your ideological funny bone. No, I don't think the mainstream centre left is about to build a Gulag in East Anglia. I do think, however, they are utterly capable of using the law to shut down debate about their pet concerns. I do think they care more about 'social justice' than freedom of speech. I do think they will import client voters from overseas. In fact, I know these things. I'm an evidence-based chap and I've lived through several centre left governments (in fact, as a small child, I remember the lights going out and bodies left unburied. The British left was still packed with fellow travellers with interesting off-duty links to Russian 'diplomats.'). This is what they call 'a direction of travel.' One only has to see the mob mentality of the Scottish National Party (nationalism and socialism smashed together, as if by some grotesquely political version of the large hadron collider) to see where it can all end up. Gulags? No, unlikely. Soft authoritarianism, a sort of leftish McCarthyism? Absolutely. I like reminding the Left of where they came from. Their political DNA is mired in blood in a way Western liberal conservatism manifestly is not. Funny that you mention an ideological funny bone when it was you who first linked, as is custom, the crimes of Soviet Russia with modern Western left politics. Because "political DNA". I have news for you mate, you share 35-60% of your genes with the common fly — how often do you find yourself sucking or wanting to suck crap? But then I'm "derailing" the thread by pointing out simple facts. My bad, I thought this thread was "UK election special", not "The Red Scare Special vol. MDLXXIII". I must have misread. The whole thing is silly because modern Western pinkos are about as close to Marxism-Leninism as modern liberals are to John Stuart Mill. That is, not close at all. Facile appeals to emotion (fear), broad sweeping statements and mental shortcuts have exactly the same stifling effect on debate as using the law to suppress it. Arguably worse, because a top-down crackdown is much easier to recognize than the pitfalls of groupthink. And what is this "importing client voters from overseas", exactly? You mean aliens? Can aliens vote in the UK? And this is wrong... why? Edited May 4, 2015 by 213374U - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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