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It's called a secret ballot for a reason. It's a pretty big deal in this country not to have to disclose who you voted for if you don't want to. And it's bad form to ask.

 

I hold centre-right, libertarian views. None of the parties represents me and I'm not minded to compromise. I voted this morning. Who it was for was based on a personal and perhaps not entirely rational set of factors I don't feel like sharing on the internet.

 

But the two main parties are like either cheek of the same arse.

 

I thought about it afterwards and I realized my question was a little rude and presumptuous. The English are more reserved about this type of thing, you guys aren't like the Americans and me who openly state who we will be voting for, so my bad  :blush:

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You guys are going to love this one because The Reds Really Are Coming. [...]

 

Iceland proposes bill to abolish fractional reserve banking

 

"The Reds"?

 

It seems you don't realize that the harshest critics of fractional reserve banking, are Austrian School libertarians.

They believe that it's fraud and that it could not exist in a society with a minimalist government that respects property rights.

 

So yeah, abolishing it is not exactly the hallmark of Communism.

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Continuing the theme of me copying Monte, I agree. It is poor form to ask, even among friends.

 

I should apologise to Numbers for not having been clearer earlier. I know Miliband isn't one Beria short of a gulag. However, I do think there are a lot of things which many Britons would accept which abrogate their freedoms pretty seriously. Which _might_ be OK if I thought for one second that the intended benefits would be felt. They won't. You might as well try to legislate away ageing.

 

Further, I accept that there are some freaks in banking, and they get adulation and prizes. But can you honestly look at most big enterprises and say they aren't run by nutters? The trick is simply to enforce the laws which already exist, and to amp up the punishments. Destroying a pension scheme should not have a lower tariff than burning down a house or stealing some cars.

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Supplemental:

 

Muslim voters being told not to vote in London.

 

Londonistan indeed.

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Muslim voters being told not to vote in London.

 

Londonistan indeed.

 

Why do they even want to be in the UK  when they are not participating in what many consider one's civic duty + all those lose women, alcohol and bacon?

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Supplemental:

 

Muslim voters being told not to vote in London.

 

Londonistan indeed.

Seems like random cranks. Expecting to see that kind of stuff here during our next election. Either done by people believing that crap or people wanting others to think they did, heh.

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So will Scotland finally get FREEDOM!?

 

 

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Muslim voters being told not to vote in London.

 

Londonistan indeed.

 

Why do they even want to be in the UK  when they are not participating in what many consider one's civic duty + all those lose women, alcohol and bacon?

 

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The SNP have 'taken Scotland'. Bloody worrying.

 

I give it 18 months until Russians begin buying Edinburgh. Wait a minute... they already bought London!

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George Galloway defeated!

 

Best news so far. Although I'm sure the carpet-bagging fethwipe will only turn up in some other borough peddling race hate.

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So Conservatives will govern again, do they need a coalition partner?

 

Its not a bad result, from an outsiders perspective this doesn't seem like a bad outcome. They have done a good job overall, the UK  economy has recovered for example?

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How did UKIP do?

"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

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Morning news said about 12% of the popular vote, but only 2 seats.

 

The joys of FTFP-system.

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1 seat, if Farage doesn't win. That's 12% of popular support, and 0,0015% of the representation.

 

That said, UKIP probably have a bit more support, people who aren't completely retarded and know how to game the FTFP system. A UKIP vote only makes sense either if you really don't care if Labour or the Tories win (since you're essentially throwing away your vote), or if you're in three or so districts where UKIP can realistically be the largest party.

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George Galloway defeated!

 

Best news so far. Although I'm sure the carpet-bagging fethwipe will only turn up in some other borough peddling race hate.

 

I'm sorry, but Ed Balls losing his seat was a moment of almost perfect sweetness. The smug bastard helped crash the economy and was utterly shameless in denying it. A study in entitlement, condescension and hubris, he is no loss.

 

I hope he takes the opportunity to return to the stone from under which he crawled from.

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The SNP have 'taken Scotland'. Bloody worrying.

 

I give it 18 months until Russians begin buying Edinburgh. Wait a minute... they already bought London!

I can see it for me... Scotland is going to be the next "Cuba Crisis" when Scapa Flow gets rented to the Russians to use as a forward naval base :lol:

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George Galloway defeated!

 

Best news so far. Although I'm sure the carpet-bagging fethwipe will only turn up in some other borough peddling race hate.

 

I'm sorry, but Ed Balls losing his seat was a moment of almost perfect sweetness. The smug bastard helped crash the economy and was utterly shameless in denying it. A study in entitlement, condescension and hubris, he is no loss.

 

I hope he takes the opportunity to return to the stone from under which he crawled from.

 

 

Gordy didn't.

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The SNP have 'taken Scotland'. Bloody worrying.

 

I give it 18 months until Russians begin buying Edinburgh. Wait a minute... they already bought London!

I can see it for me... Scotland is going to be the next "Cuba Crisis" when Scapa Flow gets rented to the Russians to use as a forward naval base :lol:

 

 

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I pity the people in Brussels who will have to put up with Farage. It appears he couldn't manage to get elected. 1 seat for UKIP it is then.

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I pity the people in Brussels who will have to put up with Farage. It appears he couldn't manage to get elected. 1 seat for UKIP it is then.

 

So, about 3,8 million votes and only one seat.

 

Huh.

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"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
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"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

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I pity the people in Brussels who will have to put up with Farage. It appears he couldn't manage to get elected. 1 seat for UKIP it is then.

So, about 3,8 million votes and only one seat.

Huh.

Yeah, it's completely ****ed up, I'm telling you.

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I pity the people in Brussels who will have to put up with Farage. It appears he couldn't manage to get elected. 1 seat for UKIP it is then.

So, about 3,8 million votes and only one seat.

Huh.

Yeah, it's completely ****ed up, I'm telling you.

 

 

What the hell is so difficult to understand?

 

Stop trying to force the UK into your limited nationalist mindset for 30 seconds.

 

FPTP makes elections fundamentally between candidates at a local level. 

 

_As we've just seen_ FPTP deprives top party hacks of the comfort of knowing they'll always be in power. Even the Prime Minister.

 

Further, prop rep means coalitions where a majority party has to pander to the fringes.

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