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These are really amazing! You should do commissions, I think a lot of people here would take you up on it.

 

As for people complaining about the watermark... it's super common, especially with places like Tumblr or imgur, for an artist's work to get spread around uncredited. Most people just do not take the time to source art properly. It's not at all unreasonable for an artist to watermark her work, on the off chance that at some point the artwork is separated from the source. It's also not unusual for people to try to pass artwork off as their own, or to try to make a profit off of artwork that is not theirs. You can't just assume that art is a free resource to use however you'd like. Artists retain copyright over their work from the moment it's created and published. Sure you could go ahead and do whatever you want to it. But you're essentially stealing. If you're interested in using an artist's work for some other purpose, and the artist hasn't stated whether or not that's okay, it's customary to ask first. Why would you try to shame an artist for taking some precautions? Or for wanting to just share her work without literally opening it up to others to use however they'd like? I don't really understand that.


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Specifically, I'm going to play an Orlan Cipher from Old Vaila who is fleeing his slave past and has gone a little crazy and a little native in the Dyrwood; courteous, polite, passionate, and viciously/brutally pragmatic. I'm planning on refusing to discuss my slave past at the beginning, being pretty open about other stuff, and hopefully having the option to slowly reveal my slave past over the course of the game as I deal with the problems and issues facing me.

A dream portrait would require an Orlan who is, at the least, scarred and a little wild-eyed. :)

 

I can't quite visualize the personality right now, but that might be a good thing. ;)
Have you posted something about the start of the game making that non-discussing problematic? Or was that another slave-person(errr)? I have no idea were I red that, just reminded me of it.

Don't get your hopes up. ;( I just had to google "wild-eyed" and now I might never sleep.... (Well, it's 6:30am anyways..) Guy or girl though?

 

Yeah, I'm not sure how it'll actually work out.

I know there's the dialogue option at the beginning to set your biography, and part of that involves another character asking about your background choices. I know you can skip parts of the conversation, but I don't know if you skip it there if it never comes up again, comes up only rarely, or what.

As for gender, I envision a male character but whom--do to the fur and the scars--is not necessarily easy to tell.


Edited by Katarack21, 22 March 2015 - 10:32 PM.


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awesome work!



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This is a mess.

 

These are awesome.

 

These are really nice, great job! We're still lacking portraits for races exclusive to our game, so any additions are very welcome. Thanks for sharing.

 

Thanks, both of you! :)

That's a real shame, I really like them. Especially Aumaua and Death Godlikes. I essentially like all of them though. :)

I am really glad you include races like that!

 

This guys artwork has made the custom portraits thread I started obsolete.

 

I don't know. Yours seems to be more about posting stuff, this is apparently just about my stuff and philosophical discussions on watermarks/signatures...  Unintentionally.

It would be nicer if there would be links back to the artists though.(In your thread)

 

 

As a creative myself, I have to tell you that there is value in your work beyond self promotion. I tend to follow the Mandala Creed, wherein one's creative works should not be hoarded but instead set free to allow as many people as possible to enjoy the work. The moment you become paranoid  about 'keeping' the work you have already created is the moment you start losing the ability to create more. This isn't anti sales either, as the moment you sell a work of art you must also let it go. 

 

You shouldn't expect the people here to look and not touch. I could erase your watermark in seconds without damaging the original background and post it here cropped and ready to be used in game within about 10 minutes. I won't because you haven't given permission, but I find that extremely silly. 

 

I'd rather you do it yourself. I implore you to feel confident enough in your artistic ability to distribute your work freely, everyone here will love you for it. 

 

 

I think if you are against "hoarding" it might be more problematic, that I don't post much of what I do...but that's for other reasons.

But aside from that, that's some kind of weird philosophy-thing. "start losing the ability to create more"  because of... writing my name on it?

Realistically, what takes away from my ability to create more(very literally), is this discussion. :/

 

I am not confident in people giving credit. Also I am not confident in people knowing how to reverse-image-search.

I don't like not being easily able to find the scource of pictures I like.

 

I am a horrible person, for causing some inconvenience, in the use of something, I -didn't even have to freaking give you-. I made those essentially for myself, I posted them here too, because I though they might be of interest to you guys.

 

 

These are amazing! And that orlan is the most adorable thing I have ever seen.

 

Thank you.<3

 

 


Alright, but why do you assume I would crop the top off, as you say, "anyways"? The orlan's ears would be partially cut off. If I was to use your portraits, I'd like to use them as you drew them with these image proportions, instead of cropping stuff out.


You shouldn't expect the people here to look and not touch. I could erase your watermark in seconds without damaging the original background and post it here cropped and ready to be used in game within about 10 minutes. I won't because you haven't given permission


You have the right to do that under fair use. Please do, people would only benefit from it. Plus, the author isn't against it in the first place.

 

 

That's your problem. Considering they -for all I know- don't have the proportions the game uses, that might be kinda difficult.

 

I don't know in what lawless country you reside, but where I live cutting artists signatures off is probably not part of the exceptions to copyright. At least not, if you intend to post it online like that. And that -is- what I am opposed to.


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yeah - I use a 3D program then postwork with some filters and touch-ups.

Wish I could paint properly but I get by.

I encourage you to post more of your work - they're ace (and we do need some more portraits for aumaua/orlan/godlike types :) )

What kind of program?

I tried some 3D before, but I didn't get too far ..to much time in between. (made some interesting tests, but never anything finished i think.)

Well you could learn it... ;)

 

Those are the ones I care most about anyways. :p

I started out with Daz Studio (like Poser) - just using pre-made models and figures and putting together scenes+lighting etc.  It's kinda like photography with more control over the weather :lol:  Also used Bryce for outdoor scenery-type things.

More recently I've been learning Blender - early days but step by step.

 

I could learn drawing - if I had enough time ;)  (and a tablet - need to get one of those intuos ones that act like a 2nd monitor ... money vs. awesome :lol: ).  I actually need a scanner to get my pen/pencil sketches onto the PC for editing.

 

And 'Yay'

 

 

 Considering they -for all I know- don't have the proportions the game uses, that might be kinda difficult.

 

They don't - but I just did an experiement with the aumaua one and they can be cropped and shrunk to the right size without losing much of the image

(in-game needs 210x330 for large - these are 400x579).

Thanks again for sharing :)

(and don't worry about those saying you should remove the watermark - if someone really wants to use one of these in-game, it can be easily modified in gimp/ps/mspaint to fit - no drawing skills required - rather than reposting, they should be directing interested parties to the artist's site anyway, so as to encourage more awesome ;) )


Edited by Silent Winter, 22 March 2015 - 11:33 PM.

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I don't know in what lawless country you reside, but where I live cutting artists signatures off is probably not part of the exceptions to copyright. At least not, if you intend to post it online like that. And that -is- what I am opposed to.

 

So you are opposed to people cropping off your signature and posting it on this forum for people to use in their game. You posted these only for self-promotion and to get congratulated, not for people to actually use them. Gotcha.

 

Also to say "look what I've got... but you can't use it, cause I put a giant watermark all over it and I disallow anyone from cropping it and posting here". Uhh ok? Have fun with it, I suppose?


Edited by Bester, 23 March 2015 - 12:13 AM.


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These are really amazing! You should do commissions, I think a lot of people here would take you up on it.

 

As for people complaining about the watermark... it's super common, especially with places like Tumblr or imgur, for an artist's work to get spread around uncredited. Most people just do not take the time to source art properly. It's not at all unreasonable for an artist to watermark her work, on the off chance that at some point the artwork is separated from the source. It's also not unusual for people to try to pass artwork off as their own, or to try to make a profit off of artwork that is not theirs. You can't just assume that art is a free resource to use however you'd like. Artists retain copyright over their work from the moment it's created and published. Sure you could go ahead and do whatever you want to it. But you're essentially stealing. If you're interested in using an artist's work for some other purpose, and the artist hasn't stated whether or not that's okay, it's customary to ask first. Why would you try to shame an artist for taking some precautions? Or for wanting to just share her work without literally opening it up to others to use however they'd like? I don't really understand that.

 

 

Nah, people ask very, very rarely. And if they do, most -as usual- expect it to come really, really cheap.

Or ...wait...you mean like here?

 

Thanks for the text. I mean, really.

I tend to only be active in very few places, and not anywhere non-art related, so this kind of reaction is completely foreign to me.

Kinda makes me regret posting them here at all. :(

 

 

 

 

@3D-stuff

I get the picture.:D Blender ftw.

Strangely enough I kinda like poly-by-poly modeling in blender better than sculpting(in zbrush, sculptris or blender itself).

Sculpting just turns everything I do into ...boneless-mudpeople.

 

The things with the screens are cintiqs, it's not like that's necessary though.  Also there is traditional art too. (Or so I heard:P)

 

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You must have awesome cropping skillz!

No seriously, aside from the watermark ..I did not indent for them to be used "as is".

I myself intended to crop them quite a bit. I just painted more, in case I had to slightly move them for better composition. (So I would not have to fix the holes then.)

 

 

 

So you are opposed to people cropping off your signature and posting it on this forum for people to use in their game. You posted these only for self-promotion and to get congratulated, not for people to actually use them. Gotcha, thanks a lot, see you.

 

 

 

You disgust me.

But I assume, that might be what you intend.

Seriously, if there had been like -actual- problems which cropping them properly and I had just been asked nicely, I probably would have even offered assistance.

 

But, considering that I am apparently expected to not crop them at all, I guess even if I had supplied perfectly game-ready versions, that would still be wrong.


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I don't know in what lawless country you reside, but where I live cutting artists signatures off is probably not part of the exceptions to copyright. At least not, if you intend to post it online like that. And that -is- what I am opposed to.

 

So you are opposed to people cropping off your signature and posting it on this forum for people to use in their game. You posted these only for self-promotion and to get congratulated, not for people to actually use them. Gotcha.

 

Also to say "look what I've got... but you can't use it, cause I put a giant watermark all over it and I disallow anyone from cropping it and posting here". Uhh ok? Have fun with it, I suppose?

 

 

Congratulations, you've unlocked the definition of "art gallery".

 

Generally when people share art, it's because they believe other people will enjoy seeing it. It's a bit twisted to demand that art must serve your needs in some fashion.


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Thanks for sharing, but it's rather useless with the watermarks. Watermarking art is like taking a huge steamy dump over them.



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To the OP; Really nice work on the portraits.  One note about the Godlike portrait; the artwork is great, but the expression is a bit tough to decipher.  I can't tell if the character is in pain or laughing or singng an old Aumauan folk ballad or choking on a bone,  Without eyes as visual cues, expressions get a bit tricky.

 

With regards to the whole Watermark issue; I wouldn't get dragged into some of the idiotic observations and provocations that are inevitably going to follow in a thread like this.  No professional creative person in their right mind would fault you for protecting your work.  


Edited by curryinahurry, 23 March 2015 - 01:05 AM.


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So you are opposed to people cropping off your signature and posting it on this forum for people to use in their game. You posted these only for self-promotion and to get congratulated, not for people to actually use them. Gotcha.

Also to say "look what I've got... but you can't use it, cause I put a giant watermark all over it and I disallow anyone from cropping it and posting here". Uhh ok? Have fun with it, I suppose?


People that share things only to brag or to have people fawn over them are the worst kind of people.
 

To the OP; Really nice work on the portraits.  One note about the Godlike portrait; the artwork is great, but the expression is a bit tough to decipher.  I can't tell if the character is in pain or laughing or sining an old Aumauan folk ballad or choking on a bone,  Without eyes as visual cues, expressions get a bit tricky.
 
With regards to the whole Watermark issue; I wouldn't get dragged into some of the idiotic observations and provocations that are inevitably going to follow in a thread like this.  No professional creative person in their right mind would fault you for protecting your work.


But it's not protected. More importantly, there's no reason to protect it. That's the thing.

It's really just like showing up and saying "I did a thing". There's blogs for that.

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@ OP: I guess you should just ignore the watermark whiners. There are many adults who still act like spoilt little children: they receive a gift and then stamp their feet because they want better. That's just what you're seeing here. Keep adding to YOUR drawings whatever you like.

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I can't tell if the character is in pain or laughing or sining an old Aumauan folk ballad or choking on a bone,  Without eyes as visual cues, expressions get a bit tricky.

 

All the better to RP with.:)


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How much $$$ do you need to make and post more of these?

 

 

EDIT: I can't stop my instinct to double post!


Edited by Namutree, 23 March 2015 - 01:04 AM.


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But it's not protected. More importantly, there's no reason to protect it. That's the thing.

It's really just like showing up and saying "I did a thing". There's blogs for that.

 

 

If the watermark has copyright information or the name of the issuing company, it is absolutely protected.  Trust me, I've used Watermarks and taken legal action against people who have removed them to get them to stop.  It works.  



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Fantastic art! Keep it up.

 

Hmm... many custom portait threads hanging around in this forum. Maybe we need a pinned "official custom portraits" thread?


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But it's not protected. More importantly, there's no reason to protect it. That's the thing.

It's really just like showing up and saying "I did a thing". There's blogs for that.

 
If the watermark has copyright information or the name of the issuing company, it is absolutely protected.  Trust me, I've used Watermarks and taken legal action against people who have removed them to get them to stop.  It works.

 


Depends on how they're used and where. Furthermore, this was not about legality, but about protection.

[ edit: altered images of original author's pics removed, since it seems apparent she didn't want them posted in the actual forum ]
 
It took longer to figure out how to get Firefox to open the images properly so I could download them, than it took to remove the watermarks in Photoshop.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Am I the only one that thinks that "FU" is a hilarious symbol used for Fair Use?
 

Fantastic art! Keep it up.

Hmm... many custom portait threads hanging around in this forum. Maybe we need a pinned "official custom portraits" thread?

This is an excellent idea, I think. With the stipulation that posted portraits should be usable in-game, because otherwise it's really just.. I dunno what. Useless, I guess.


Edited by LadyCrimson, 23 March 2015 - 01:52 AM.

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@OP: Those are really well done, keep up the good job!"

 

And don't let the comments on the watermarks stop you from creating more art and posting it here.



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A+.



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Depends on how they're used and where. Furthermore, this was not about legality, but about protection. Point in case:

 

 

I am quite aware that those are easily removed. That is why I don't do anything more obstructive, because if someone -really- has ill intentions, it does not matter. (unless I want to ruin my paintings fully)

 

I usually trust, that most people just want to share stuff. That is another reason -why- I put  my name on there, because they likely wont remove it, and are simply to lazy or clueless to post proper links.

 

Now would you -please- take them down again.







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