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Now, now. Lets not get personal about who is dismissive or who is rude to whom.

 

The only way to settle this is by mud-wrestling. Naked. The first one refusing to take part is declared as fairy fruitcake gay-person. I will wrestle LadyCrimson.

 

Funnily enough I watched that scene from Women in Love the other day.

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Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.

I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin.

 

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I consider political correctness offensive.

Is that better or worse when being offensive is considered politically correct?

 

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Oh man, that was deep thoughts. Too much coffee again.

 

 

That is offensive, I expected better from a moderator.

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You constantly seen to  think less of me or doubt my posting intentions

 

I went to the GG thread to discuss the GG movement, yes I didn't agree with most of it but there were some valid points raised. I didn't think it was correct the CNN assessment of GG and I raised that. I also didn't like the fact that certain elements of anti-GG were also sexist and dismissive of women who supported GG, like the criticism of  that porn star. She raised some very valid points about the right of women to work in the porn industry and all the good they did to help disenfranchised women...yet her money wasn't good enough for some and she was criticised for her endeavors to help other women. I thought this was wrong and I unequivocally stated that  

 

So I'm not sure why you think I kept trying to snipe at people, disagreeing with people and stating that disagreement is not sniping...its called debate  geek.gif

Well you flounced out of that thread several times after just stoking things up, so does seem like you were just trolling the thread with your silly act. Which is fine really, just don't pretend it was anything more than that - I highly doubt someone like you would ever be won over or something to make your purpose in there for something more lofty.

 

 

And there you go again, suggesting I was acting in the GG thread. As I mentioned I did want to engage on certain topics in that thread but I wasn't following some parts of the whole GG story as intently as others so I thought it was best I disengaged because I was asked to  give my opinion on things I had no idea what people were talking about. I explained this all, so going forward I tried to only comment on topics related to GG that I was well versed in, like the CNN story

 

And remember in a debate you may not agree 100 % with someone but that doesn't mean you can't recognise a good or valid point. That was how I looked at the whole GG debates I participated in  :geek:

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You did a lot more than that in the GG thread, heh, but whatever - that's Bruce for you.

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Bruce raising a good or valid point, which thread forum was this?

 

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Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.

I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin.

 

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I thought it was the armed guards everywhere.

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Well, it would be the truest sign - in that there'd be little debate on it. But having never experienced that kind of state (back home is just crime ridden), I'll yield to you guys on that.

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Bruce raising a good or valid point, which thread forum was this?

 

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Oh Nonek, thats clever and cheeky..I like it   :teehee:  

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I thought it was the armed guards everywhere.

 

 

In the town where I was born in USSR the police didn't even have guns.

What did they have?

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Why should they need guns when local beaurocracy only needed to declare the the town as unneeded and forcibly move each citizen to another town as soon as anyone tried to "elevate beyond his position".

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What did they have?

 

Nothing. Road police had battons to regulate traffic. Normal police on the street while they I'm sure had guns somewhere they didn't carry them.

 

Violent street crime was practically nonexistent. Women could leave their baby carts with the baby outside a shop's door and it would be safe because even if something happened the random passers by would take care of it.

 

It is unthinkable today but it was real. This was of course a small town, bigger cities were a little more hectic but only slightly.

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What did they have?

 

Nothing. Road police had battons to regulate traffic. Normal police on the street while they I'm sure had guns somewhere they didn't carry them.

 

Violent street crime was practically nonexistent. Women could leave their baby carts with the baby outside a shop's door and it would be safe because even if something happened the random passers by would take care of it.

 

It is unthinkable today but it was real. This was of course a small town, bigger cities were a little more hectic but only slightly.

 

 

It sounds you are suggesting life was better under the USSR?

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"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Heh, figures. But don't really see him saying that, just that it was safer in smaller towns. Security is just one factor, right ?

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Heh, figures. But don't really see him saying that, just that it was safer in smaller towns. Security is just one factor, right ?

Yes  security is one factor in many that make up a successful government and happy, progressive society 

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"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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It sounds you are suggesting life was better under the USSR?

 

I'm describing one aspect of USSR life. And only suggesting that nothing is completely black or white.

 

Was life better? For me and anyone in my family. No. Very much no. But for a great many people who have no basic stability and are struggling for basic living standards, yes it was.

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For some people it probably was better
 
I asked my in-laws about it and got a lot of mixed answers but nobody seemed to hate it except for maybe during the final years

 

 

Its interesting they have that view because the Baltic states are traditionally very anti-USSR and were very glad when Communism ended 

 

With Russia annexing parts of Ukraine the Baltic states have been very nervous and have been solidifying there support for NATO and the West, Obama has committed to stand by them against any Russia aggression. The thought of the Baltic states falling under the domain of Russia again is something which they consider anathema 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/video/multimedia/100000003089662/obama-affirms-rock-solid-support-for-baltic-states.html

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Huh, I had thought Shady's wife was Russian proper rather than from Baltics. Odd segue, anyway.

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I'm not saying they want to go back to the Soviet Union because they don't (except for maybe my uncle) just that it's probably not how you think it is/was or as Fighter said not completely back or white

 

 

Huh, I had thought Shady's wife was Russian proper rather than from Baltics. Odd segue, anyway.

 

Well, they are all mixed but unlike here in the states they seem to only refer to themselves as one thing. Most of my wife's side lives in Estonia and Lithuania but a few also live in Russia and Ukraine.

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