Sock Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Why is that tied to mechanics? I can get it for traps, maybe, but floorboards? Loose bricks? Tapestries? I think it would make more sense for hidden objects to all be tied to a variety of skills. For example: A survivalist can spot the eggs hidden in a bird's nest, or edible plants, etc. A loremaster can identify which scrolls are actually useful in a pile of paperwork, or they can recognize that the ring on that skeleton is actually valuable. A sneak recognizes that the floorboard is loose. An athlete can spot that loose brick, because they eye the wall as someone looking for the best places for foot holds. A trapmaster can spot traps. This would give more value to all skills in finding hidden objects. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwars Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Definitely agree with this generally speaking, though I guess too late to change for the release now. Maybe for expansion or sequel? Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensuki Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I don't think it should be tied to search, I think it should just be if you're standing still and have a high enough Perception (Currently it's a Perception check) - but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazy Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'm confused. One of you says Mechanics, another says Perception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 You sure it's perception? I can only ever find anything when I send my trapper to hunt for hidden items. My wizard has higher perception (16), but it is inevitably my trapper (12 perception) that finds everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensuki Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 You're probably correct. I just assumed it was Perception because the BB Rogue finds everything and she has 22 Perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderon Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 don't you have to be in sneak mode as well to find both traps and hidden objects Nomadic Wayfarer of the Obsidian Order Not all those that wander are lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morhilane Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 don't you have to be in sneak mode as well to find both traps and hidden objects Yup, stealth is both stealth and search. Azarhal, Chanter and Keeper of Truth of the Obsidian Order of Eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderon Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 don't you have to be in sneak mode as well to find both traps and hidden objects Yup, stealth is both stealth and search. I can see why you would be better at searching in stealth mode - moving slower watching closely - but it seems to me that it should be possible for someone with a high enough "search skill" (whatever that's based on) should be able to discover some of the hidden items - unless the stealth effect just adds an insane bonus vs not stealthed Nomadic Wayfarer of the Obsidian Order Not all those that wander are lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 I'd agree with perception for spotting things outside of scouting mode, but skill based when in scouting mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensuki Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Nah if it's mechanics, it should remain that way. Being tied to search isn't a big deal - it's probably better that way as it makes secrets harder to find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ushas Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 yep, I think it's mechanics in the scouting mode. Interestingly, in the description is only something about the trap finding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelok Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) The "scout to find hidden items" was another thing that I found out about completely by accident, but I don't mind it being tied to mechanics as you'd want your sneaky character to be a master of unlocking anyway. It doesn't make as much sense as perception, but hey, like Josh said "q: Why does might improve gun damage = a: shut the **** up" . Edited February 21, 2015 by Havelok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctn2003 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Its a tade strang but its really fun to find stuff hidden - not well inplamted but fun like most of gta san andreas lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Did anyone ever confirm the mechanics of finding hidden objects. Is it tied to mechanics? If so that's going to be interesting since having high mechanics means you are going to probably have crappy stealth to be up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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