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all hair options look like a variation of dreadlocks to me.

I have a similar feeling.


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I think the portraits are fine. Good thing because the 3D faces are pretty bad in my opinion, so I'm glad they're practically not visible in-game. Some of them, particularly the human and dwarf faces, look like borderline Nintendo Miis.

 

It is probably a tactical error to put the zoomed-in in-game model right in the player's face at the very start.  It gives a rather poor first impression and is not representative of the visuals in the rest of the game. 


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well I'm glad we can agree (too some degree) the level of detail of and love put into the character creator is not up to snuff.



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I don't mind the Death Godlike "shells" to much, as their description does say that they have growths that cover their eyes and most of their faces. As it stands, the only Godlike I'll be able to play as is Nature and Death. Which makes me super sad, cause I really wanted to play a Moon Godlike. But being pretty (or at least not bald..) is near and dear to my heart. The Nature Godlike (at least the female) are actually almost pretty to me. I don't mind the Death ones to much, and actually have a character idea for one. She's gonna be a former slave I think~

 

My most wanted feature at this point will be longer hair (or any sort of hair) for ALL the Godlike. Especially Moon and Fire. I'd just love, love, love some braids for them. (really braids all of them in general would please me.) 

More portraits to would be great, but if push comes to shove I'd just draw my own. I think I can match the art style well enough, coloring would be the tricky part though. :/

 

In any event, if they don't add anything more to the Fire and Moon Godlike, I'll feel really put out. Cause as it stands, without any romantic subplots and now super ugly Moon Godlike, my optimism and excitement levels for this game have dropped to 0.


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The facial hair looks like play-doh.


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I am a huge fan of the portraits, although having the snapshot option would be nice for people who want it. I really hope they are able to create portraits to match all the options. Sounds extreme but if the hair and faces could be swaped (similar to the female face with multiple hair swaps portrait). Kinda like the flip books for kids where you change the eyes mouth and hair (but for face hair and beard). Would take some work but having so many options would be incredible.
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The characters may look oddly-proportioned and ugly during the creation phase, but once you actually start the game, I think they look good, for the most part. The only really bad ones, IMO, are the dwarves. They look like weak and child-like rather than hardy and strong like they're supposed to.

 

You guys gotta remember this isn't an MMO - I don't think you should expect things like height/weight sliders and a bazillion different eyes, noses, etc. Especially since you can barely even see those details in-game. 


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I don't mind the Death Godlike "shells" to much, as their description does say that they have growths that cover their eyes and most of their faces. As it stands, the only Godlike I'll be able to play as is Nature and Death. Which makes me super sad, cause I really wanted to play a Moon Godlike. But being pretty (or at least not bald..) is near and dear to my heart. The Nature Godlike (at least the female) are actually almost pretty to me. I don't mind the Death ones to much, and actually have a character idea for one. She's gonna be a former slave I think~

 

My most wanted feature at this point will be longer hair (or any sort of hair) for ALL the Godlike. Especially Moon and Fire. I'd just love, love, love some braids for them. (really braids all of them in general would please me.) 

More portraits to would be great, but if push comes to shove I'd just draw my own. I think I can match the art style well enough, coloring would be the tricky part though. :/

 

In any event, if they don't add anything more to the Fire and Moon Godlike, I'll feel really put out. Cause as it stands, without any romantic subplots and now super ugly Moon Godlike, my optimism and excitement levels for this game have dropped to 0.

I can't imagine Obsidian including these awesome portraits without the option to create a character that truly looks like that. Please Obsidian, give us Godlike hair! :yes:

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I'll be honest.  The character models are fugly.   Yes, FUGLY.  Humans look weak and small.  Hair is awful.  Faces are awful.  Body shape is awful.  I want my Barb to look like Conan and Valeria not Jim and Susan from down the block.

 

All races lack chiseled features.  The Orlans are probably the worst.  Their portraits are great, but the model looks nothing like them.  Dwarves look like fat-bellied little knee-highs.  The NWN2 models were better ffs.  Doesn't make sense.  

 

The shapes just seem all wrong.  It feels too comical.  Kills my immersion.  

 

Is it really that expensive to make character models that look good?

 

What happened to the character models?A yr back they showed realistic looking visuals that have changed somewhere along the road.Many posters say that they like the visuals though so good luck.

 

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At first I didn't think character portraits were a big deal or an issue for me, but they are. For some reason, I just don't like any of the ones given. If there are going to be no changes to the portraits, or new ones added, I vote for going with a crop like NWN or DA:O



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I don't mind the Death Godlike "shells" to much, as their description does say that they have growths that cover their eyes and most of their faces. As it stands, the only Godlike I'll be able to play as is Nature and Death. Which makes me super sad, cause I really wanted to play a Moon Godlike. But being pretty (or at least not bald..) is near and dear to my heart. The Nature Godlike (at least the female) are actually almost pretty to me. I don't mind the Death ones to much, and actually have a character idea for one. She's gonna be a former slave I think~

My most wanted feature at this point will be longer hair (or any sort of hair) for ALL the Godlike. Especially Moon and Fire. I'd just love, love, love some braids for them. (really braids all of them in general would please me.)
More portraits to would be great, but if push comes to shove I'd just draw my own. I think I can match the art style well enough, coloring would be the tricky part though. :/

In any event, if they don't add anything more to the Fire and Moon Godlike, I'll feel really put out. Cause as it stands, without any romantic subplots and now super ugly Moon Godlike, my optimism and excitement levels for this game have dropped to 0.

I can't imagine Obsidian including these awesome portraits without the option to create a character that truly looks like that. Please Obsidian, give us Godlike hair! :yes:
I 100% agree, if the characters in the creator looked like this I'd certainly play them or at least certainly have these companions on my party. These are attractive portraits but character models are nothing like them.

Could it be a suggestion to have lovely 2D paper dolls in character/inventory screen... I think this would solve quite a few problems. I can understand the headaches blowing up the 3D in-game model is causing to appearance in the character screen. This is however easily avoidable. I think I'd actually prefer a 2D character/inventory screen. It would give it a more vintage feeling.

Edited by Kronos, 19 August 2014 - 03:04 PM.

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Kronos, how dare you use the same avatar as me? I will slap you.

lol, You'll have to stand in line behind my wife and mother- in-law


They also use the same avatar? :p

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At first I didn't think character portraits were a big deal or an issue for me, but they are. For some reason, I just don't like any of the ones given. If there are going to be no changes to the portraits, or new ones added, I vote for going with a crop like NWN or DA:O

Kronos, how dare you use the same avatar as me? I will slap you.

lol, You'll have to stand in line behind my wife and mother- in-law
They also use the same avatar? :p
nope, but they've got dibs on slapping me.

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I'm pretty easy to please and not very critical of games in general, especially ones like Pillars of Eternity that fit the style of some of my favorite games.  Overall, I am loving the overall feel of the game.  That said, I have to agree with most everyone else here about how boring and in some cases downright ugly some of the character models and customization options are.  I understand it is an early beta, but I sincerely hope that more quality options will be incorporated.  I think the Godlike look pretty damn cool, but the Aumaua....ehh yeah they just look silly.  I think the hair and beards and all of that are fine, there just needs to be more variation.  Really more variation all around would be a BIG plus

 

As for the portraits, IMO some of them are excellent, some of them are decent, and some of them are rather annoying.  Overall, they are about what I expected with the exception of the quantity.  Absolutely need more portrait options, considering the amount of different races and class types, there are just not enough portraits available at this point.

 

So far, these character models and portraits are really the only serious criticism I have so far.  I'm loving the vast majority of what I have seen thus far, right down to the UI, menus, text, and of course the environments and music.  Oh there is one other thing, does anyone else feel like the characters just jet around too fast?  I mean it feels like they are sprinting like Usain Bolt everywhere they go.  Personally, I prefer a much more methodical approach, all the better to enjoy the excellent environments  :woot:



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I don't mind the Death Godlike "shells" to much, as their description does say that they have growths that cover their eyes and most of their faces. As it stands, the only Godlike I'll be able to play as is Nature and Death. Which makes me super sad, cause I really wanted to play a Moon Godlike. But being pretty (or at least not bald..) is near and dear to my heart. The Nature Godlike (at least the female) are actually almost pretty to me. I don't mind the Death ones to much, and actually have a character idea for one. She's gonna be a former slave I think~

My most wanted feature at this point will be longer hair (or any sort of hair) for ALL the Godlike. Especially Moon and Fire. I'd just love, love, love some braids for them. (really braids all of them in general would please me.)
More portraits to would be great, but if push comes to shove I'd just draw my own. I think I can match the art style well enough, coloring would be the tricky part though. :/

In any event, if they don't add anything more to the Fire and Moon Godlike, I'll feel really put out. Cause as it stands, without any romantic subplots and now super ugly Moon Godlike, my optimism and excitement levels for this game have dropped to 0.

I can't imagine Obsidian including these awesome portraits without the option to create a character that truly looks like that. Please Obsidian, give us Godlike hair! :yes:
I 100% agree, if the characters in the creator looked like this I'd certainly play them or at least certainly have these companions on my party. These are attractive portraits but character models are nothing like them.

Could it be a suggestion to have lovely 2D paper dolls in character/inventory screen... I think this would solve quite a few problems. I can understand the headaches blowing up the 3D in-game model is causing to appearance in the character screen. This is however easily avoidable. I think I'd actually prefer a 2D character/inventory screen. It would give it a more vintage feeling.
Yeah the godlike portraits, especially, look way better in portraits than the character model. Fire and moon have weird glowing alien looking aura for hair and oversized horns that just aren't cool and don't feel like they fit with how the (much more epic) portraits portray them.
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 My main focus here is going to be on the forced use of Character portraits. I understand they are near and dear to a lot of people in this type of community but I'd again rather have a system that just shows a crop of my created character. I don't want to have to use a custom portrait and spend 20 minutes of my life every time I created a different character due to me being unsatisfied with the provided (vanilla) character portaits.

 

 

I agree with you here... Wasteland 2 allows for the use of a "snapshot" of your 3d character model, and I think it's a good workaround for people who can't find a good find for there character, portrait-wise.



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The characters may look oddly-proportioned and ugly during the creation phase, but once you actually start the game, I think they look good, for the most part. The only really bad ones, IMO, are the dwarves. They look like weak and child-like rather than hardy and strong like they're supposed to.

 

You guys gotta remember this isn't an MMO - I don't think you should expect things like height/weight sliders and a bazillion different eyes, noses, etc. Especially since you can barely even see those details in-game. 

 

No, but I at least expect more options than was offered in Neverwinter nights 2. Right now, that is not the case. Also, I see those details every time I open my inventory. And it might not seem important to you, but it very important to me. I play games to be immersed in my avatar, if something pulls me out of the experience (stubby little human with generic face) then I lose interest. It is supposed to be MY character, in which I can project MYSELF into to experience the quest and story and relations with the world and lore of this game. If it's not, then why am I playing it, just so some no name character that I care nothing about can poke things with a sword when I click on them? I'd like my experience to be a bit deeper than that and sadly I lack imagination. So, very much yes. I think the character models, animations, textures, and portraits need a second pass and much more options, content and systems added. if that's absolutely not in the budget then that's a tragedy. But for it to stay as it is, hurts this games integrity as a "role playing game".

 

Edit: I don't mean to be cruel here but I HAVE seen facebook games with better quality character creation... With all due respect and gratitute for making this game a reality. I really feel like the Player Character deserves more aesthetic attention and overall quality.


Edited by Sirabot, 19 August 2014 - 11:15 PM.

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I agree with the OP. Wasteland 2 has this option to either choose a portrait or a shot of your 3d model character. That's what Obsidian should do here too.



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It should be pretty easy to add a feature that lets you snap a shot of the toon on CC and use that as the portrait, if that's how you roll.

 

I prefer the painted portraits, although ATM the quality is uneven and there aren't enough of them. In particular, there are no Ocean Folk portraits. I'm quite sure this is going to change, and I'm also sure that one of the first mods out of the gate will be a portrait pack.


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Am I the only one who thinks the character models look surprisingly decent, even during the zoomed in character creation? I've been following some of the streams and apart from the occasional face (death godlike with the conehead...ugh) they all look pretty nice. Way better than I expected. And armor designs are great.


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