Pathfinder CRPG by Obsidian?

[Nonek]

 

Cloud Guts Karsa Orlong called. He wants his sword back.

 

Some artist is definitely compensating.

 

Why armour your limbs but not your vital organs?

[ManifestedISO]

The update relaxed the tension a little. So they're planning a board game, and a video game. I can watch Wil Wheaton play the former on his TableTop show, and I'll play the video game afterward, so that I feel included, and as though I have lots of friends. 

[ikarinokami]

if this is not a Tim Cain spiritual successor to TOEE I'm going to be a very unhappy camper.

[redneckdevil]

The update relaxed the tension a little. So they're planning a board game, and a video game. I can watch Wil Wheaton play the former on his TableTop show, and I'll play the video game afterward, so that I feel included, and as though I have lots of friends.

Wheres this update by chance? I cant seem to find it.

[nikolokolus]

God I Haaaaaaaaaaate Wayne Reynolds' artwork. Why the hell can't these companies commission proper artists like Doug Kovacs, Russ Nicholson and Justin Sweet? At least we have Goodman Games.

[Leferd]

 

The update relaxed the tension a little. So they're planning a board game, and a video game. I can watch Wil Wheaton play the former on his TableTop show, and I'll play the video game afterward, so that I feel included, and as though I have lots of friends.

Wheres this update by chance? I cant seem to find it.

Referencing post #50 from Labadal.

 

 

All will be revealed this weekend. Well, maybe not all.

Press release tomorrow. More details throughout the weekend. We are talking about more than one type of game. I think you guys will be happy.

Btw, they are NOT taking over Pathfinder Online. Let's squash that right now.

-Lisa

 

 

 

 

Another possibility is they could be making the pathfinder adventure card game into a computer game, similar to Magic The Gathering, and Warcraft's Hearthstone.

That said, i'd prefer a CRPG. by far.

 

You know what I say in life, why do you have to choose? Why not have both?

From the CEO of paizo.

[Elerond]

As there is no publisher in those posters, I would guess that it is either crowd funded game or something other than crpg. Because I don't think that either Obsidian or Paizo has enough funds to pay development of crpg, even one of size of PoE.

[rjshae]

 

In looking at the OGL, I'm not sure the linked article is correct about not being able to use the OGL to create video games. 1b defines 'derivative', 1g defines use in terms of 'derivative', and 4 grants a perpetual use license.

It doesnt right out say it and according to d&d faq on the OGL, its mainly the line that states u cannot add or force "permission or restriction" on the ogl content which most games make u accept an uael agreement to play the game. Its that agreement that is against the OGL, no making a video game but making players agree to restrictions and permissions and so forth.

 

Which line is that? I don't see it. The main restriction is on Product Identity.

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Very intriguing. This is one instance where I would pay first and ask questions latter. I do wonder if they would be skirting the legal hindrances with something as simple as using 3d6 or a more dramatic departure. Color me interested.

[Bester]

As there is no publisher in those posters, I would guess that it is either crowd funded game or something other than crpg. Because I don't think that either Obsidian or Paizo has enough funds to pay development of crpg, even one of size of PoE.

Now now. They're about to start selling a game, the funds for the development of which came in form of a present. If they sell it well, they're going to have enough money to develop 10 games the size of PoE. And considering that they have their own engine now, that number is even further increased.

Edited August 13, 2014 by Bester

[ikarinokami]

Tim Cain handle your business.

[Humanoid]

I wouldn't necessarily say I'm intrigued or anything like that, seems a pretty straightforward collaboration to me, but then I don't know anything about Pathfinder. But hey, ruleset and setting are strictly of secondary importance of what I look for in an Obsidian product, so no problem with it as such. Curious how many concurrent projects that makes it though.

 

Long term though, maintaining two parallel fantasy settings by the same company and largely by the same writers is something I'd probably prefer to avoid, risks of typecasting and all that. But if it's contract work it's contract work.

[ikarinokami]

it doesn't sound like contract work. from the tenor of lisa's post, it sounds like a partnership, add to the fact, I don't think paizo could afford to pay for contract work. they are going to make a card game and a RPG apparently.  I would guess that this is Tim Cain's thing, he has always wanted to follow up the legendary TOEE, and pathfinder is the perfect system to do it in, and the Adventure paths seem to be much more condusive than old style modules. Of course I could be hyping myself up only for a let down. but if it is what many people are hoping for, TOEE system with pathfinder rules, there are going to be many RPG sites than are going implode tomorrow.

Edited August 13, 2014 by ikarinokami

[Leferd]

I'm down for another game that'll include additional Tim Cain cookie recipes.

[ManifestedISO]

Now I'm seeing this story all over the place. It's pretty exciting there's an official announcement so soon after a 'leak'.

[GhostofAnakin]

What the heck is Pathfinder?

[Leferd]

If it's actually a cRPG with tactical party based combat then I'm all for it. If it's an action-cross platform rpg similar to DS3...then less so.

 

Just move away from the dreadful art style of the source material. Ick.

 

Still wondering how or who's funding the development. Not seeing any publisher logos from the leaked photos. It'll be interesting the next few days.

[Leferd]

What the heck is Pathfinder?

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG

[ManifestedISO]

Excuse me, Pathfinder comics? Okay, will investigate. 

[PrimeJunta]

Underwhelmed at the idea.

 

As a game system Pathfinder sucks and as a setting it's a "kitchen sink" thing that doesn't make any kind of internal sense. That's two strikes against it.

 

In PnP Pathfinder makes more sense because it's compatible with the vast range of DnD stuff, which individual DM's can use to build a world of their choosing. Obsidian can't do this because, I assume, they have to avoid violating canon. That's not a showstopper but it is a significant problem, and one serious enough that they brought it up when pitching P:E.

 

Of course the "kitchen sink" thing means they can find an area in the setting to put in whatever they want, but they could just as well develop their own setting and avoid the constraints and problems of a licensed IP, and they're going to have to redo the systems anyway due to d20 licensing restrictions, so it's not like Pathfinder will stop them from making a good game.

 

But if this turns out cool, it's going to be despite it being Pathfinder rather than because of it. If it's a Kickstarter I'll back, but I would have backed an original IP triple.

[redneckdevil]

 

 

 

In looking at the OGL, I'm not sure the linked article is correct about not being able to use the OGL to create video games. 1b defines 'derivative', 1g defines use in terms of 'derivative', and 4 grants a perpetual use license.

It doesnt right out say it and according to d&d faq on the OGL, its mainly the line that states u cannot add or force "permission or restriction" on the ogl content which most games make u accept an uael agreement to play the game. Its that agreement that is against the OGL, no making a video game but making players agree to restrictions and permissions and so forth.

Which line is that? I don't see it. The main restriction is on Product Identity.

I got words mixed up. Its the "no terms or conditions may be applied to the Open Game Content under this liscense". The D&D faq even had a question if u could make games usimg the d20 system and they answered yes and u had to include a bunch of stuff. The Cheif Technical Officer at paizo said the 2 things that the license does that makes it difficult to do a game even though ur allowed is A "no terms or conditions may be apied to the Open Game Content under this liscense" and basically every game almost makes u agree or has terms and conditions in the game or on the manual, and B. u have to have a file that spells out where all the content came from that u used from the d20 system and OGL (a document) in the game files that can be accessed.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

An Obsidian game is very likely to satisfy me, so this is good news.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Not to rain on the parade, but why would Obsidian use the Pathfinder setting?  They just created their own setting that sounds a bit too similar.  

 

Erm... not really. Pathfinder is pulpy high fantasy, not very concerned with internal consistency or realism. The PoE gameworld looks a lot more down-to-earth, very consistent, and a bit on the low fantasy side.

[IndiraLightfoot]

Quoting myself in the thread Next Obsidian Kickstarter:

Could it be a d20-rules sandbox-y open world-thingie with Pillars of Eternity-isometrics, but real 3D this time (sorta like WL2), all made in Unity?

 

I'd say that if this is indeed true, it's a mighty close guess!

 

It was KaineParker on these forums who opened my eyes to Pathfinder, I didn't really know what it was before he explained it. Like PrimeJunta said, though, it's first and foremost a PnP system (which I like), but its helter-skelter high fantasy, I'm not sure I care too much about that.

Edited August 13, 2014 by IndiraLightfoot

[sorophx]

Excuse me, Pathfinder comics? Okay, will investigate. 

one volume was being sold on Humble Bundle site not too long ago. I didn't like it