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I think its ironic that at 6:07:

 

'So you must have some other plan in mind for coming this way.'

 

1: -'I hope to meet someone and fall in love.'

 

I know how that one is gonna end :dancing:

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Ha. Haha. Hahaha! BWAHAHAHAHAHA! An adventure is all about the romance, baby! :D

 

This is the consolation prize for promancers. Cherish it, there probably won't be any more.

LOL Yep. When developers troll, it's a marvel to behold. :)

 

Well, what are you guys waiting for? Take this info to the Romance thread and show it to Bruce already!

 

 

Hold on, I haven't watched the video but how do we know its a fake because its seems like the beginning of an exciting Romance arc :dancing:  :dancing: .... :wub:

 

 

I want a Romeo and Juliette romance. 

 

Go into a town, fall in love from first sight, marry on the second day, have five people killed on the third day and then leave on fourth day, because your husband is dead now too. Woops. 

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Hold on, I haven't watched the video but how do we know its a fake because its seems like the beginning of an exciting Romance arc :dancing:  :dancing: .... :wub:

 

You really didn't disappoint me Bruce :no:

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Hold on, I haven't watched the video but how do we know its a fake because its seems like the beginning of an exciting Romance arc :dancing:  :dancing: .... :wub:

Only if that arc happens to be: looking for love in allll the wrong places. Since, you know, there are no romances in PoE.

 

 

But that's my point, what if Obsidian just said that so when we do find out there is Romance its a completely unexpected surprise ?

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Hold on, I haven't watched the video but how do we know its a fake because its seems like the beginning of an exciting Romance arc :dancing:  :dancing: .... :wub:

Only if that arc happens to be: looking for love in allll the wrong places. Since, you know, there are no romances in PoE.

 

 

But that's my point, what if Obsidian just said that so when we do find out there is Romance its a completely unexpected surprise ?

 

 

If it is it might more end up like Sonntam just described.

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i absolutely love the look and feel of the game - it has exactly the realistic yet fantasy touch i have been hoping for!

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I did like all of the dialogue nodes however I think there should maybe have been an outright aggressive one, something akin to the terrifying presence perk of New Vegas. However I assume the passionate thread can blossom into such.


Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.

I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin.

 

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Hold on, I haven't watched the video but how do we know its a fake because its seems like the beginning of an exciting Romance arc :dancing:  :dancing: .... :wub:

Only if that arc happens to be: looking for love in allll the wrong places. Since, you know, there are no romances in PoE.

 

 

But that's my point, what if Obsidian just said that so when we do find out there is Romance its a completely unexpected surprise ?

 

 

Yeah, especially the part in the IGN video where after seeing this screen josh is asked by the reporter if there are any romances and he responds that there aren't is meant to indicate a completely unexpected surprise.

As I've stated earlier in the romance thread, I take this also as clear confirmation of space ship battles and a cameo of Vin Diesel.

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Damn that looks good. Can't wait to smite some spiders with my Paladin.


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Generally very pleased with what I saw, it looks amazing...except for the UI.  I'll have to comb through this over the weekend to get a better idea of it, but really, wow.

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Looooooved this video, so glad I backed this game.

 

It looked just like a throwback classic IE game.

 

The dialogue/choices seemed great and most of all varied, lots of choices and options how you want to do things.

 

Also.......CLOAKS! :w00t:

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Generally very pleased with what I saw, it looks amazing...except for the UI.  I'll have to comb through this over the weekend to get a better idea of it, but really, wow.

They said they'll going to put in a more solid UI.

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Yep. It's a toggle. You can choose a solid stone bar across the bottom if you want. Just like Icewind Dale 2 and Planescape Torment had.

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Looks really good overall, if a bit simplistic probably due to being the very beginning of the game. But at least it seems like the hand-holding tutorial portion of the game will be quite fast-paced, so that's good. I really liked the varied dialogue options.

 

Some specific thoughts, questions and critiques:

 

  • In character creation, I didn't notice any mention of the racial bonuses, but maybe that hasn't been implemented yet. Also, I think it would be good to just have more gameplay-relevant information at that point in addition to the lore, for example how big an effect each point of an attribute has.
  • I understand that it's a work in progress, but I hope there's a lot more attention to presentation in the final version of the character creation screen. Once you get to the main game, everything ties together nicely, but due to some flaws and quirks the character creation screen gives a cheaper, clunkier first impression. Part of it is the zoomed in view of the character model, which looks worse than when it's zoomed out during gameplay and probably can't be helped. But there are other things that can be fixed, like how when you switch from Meadow to Ocean human, the default option is a rather unnatural looking dark skin + pale straight hair combo. That's fine as an option, but as the default it just makes the Ocean human option seem like a lazy palette-swap.
  • Related to the last point, I hope there end up being appropriate matching portrait options for all or most expected character appearance options. You probably can't make enough portraits, even if some are just minor variations, to cover every single permutation, but most of the ones that you expect people to choose should be covered.
  • Lore representation question: some of the Glanfathan enemies seemed like big, bulky humans. I thought they were supposed to all/mostly be elves and orlans?
  • Other lore representation question: how come selecting an Ixamitl barbarian gives you a fellow with fairly sophisticated-looking armor/clothing while selecting an Aedyran barbarian gives you a guy in rags? Aren't both nations supposed to be at around the same tech level?
  • Maybe I just missed it and it'll be clearer in game, but I didn't see any particular visual feedback for engagement and disengagement attacks. Maybe it ends up feeling intuitive when you're actually playing, but it surprised me that engagement didn't feel like a big deal in the videos.
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JnVRbVg.png

 

Ha. Haha. Hahaha! BWAHAHAHAHAHA! An adventure is all about the romance, baby! :D

That's Eric Fenstermaker's humor I'll bet.

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One thing that is kind of concerning to me at the start of the game is due to the fact that there's no skill selection in the character creation, how is a new player supposed to know what skills are other than seeing a few options in the dialogue?

 

They won't really know about them until they hit level 2.

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It looks how I remember BG looking when I was twelve and every game looked amazing.

 

But with PST's writing and IWD's atmosphere.

 

And a much better UI than any of them.

 

And there are scripted interaction things and pretty in-world animations and it moves way faster and the combat looks awesome and I am in romantic love with everyone who had any part in this and I wish I could spend another thousand dollars on it and oh my god oh my god OH MY GOD HAD I BUT WORLDS ENOUGH AND TIME TO PROPERLY CONVEY MY EXCITEMENT

 

This is a knockout punch right in them warm and fuzzy nostalgi-feels, Obsidian. You know those "Grape Job!" stickers that you scratch and then it smells like grapes? You get two of those. Three!

 

Christ, and I haven't even played the thing yet...!

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It looks how I remember BG looking when I was twelve and every game looked amazing.

 

But with PST's writing and IWD's atmosphere.

 

And a much better UI than any of them.

 

And there are scripted interaction things and pretty in-world animations and it moves way faster and the combat looks awesome and I am in romantic love with everyone who had any part in this and I wish I could spend another thousand dollars on it and oh my god oh my god OH MY GOD HAD I BUT WORLDS ENOUGH AND TIME TO PROPERLY CONVEY MY EXCITEMENT

 

This is a knockout punch right in them warm and fuzzy nostalgi-feels, Obsidian. You know those "Grape Job!" stickers that you scratch and then it smells like grapes? You get two of those. Three!

 

Christ, and I haven't even played the thing yet...!

 

This kind of excitement is infectious :dancing:

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It looks how I remember BG looking when I was twelve and every game looked amazing.

 

But with PST's writing and IWD's atmosphere.

 

And a much better UI than any of them.

 

And there are scripted interaction things and pretty in-world animations and it moves way faster and the combat looks awesome and I am in romantic love with everyone who had any part in this and I wish I could spend another thousand dollars on it and oh my god oh my god OH MY GOD HAD I BUT WORLDS ENOUGH AND TIME TO PROPERLY CONVEY MY EXCITEMENT

 

This is a knockout punch right in them warm and fuzzy nostalgi-feels, Obsidian. You know those "Grape Job!" stickers that you scratch and then it smells like grapes? You get two of those. Three!

 

Christ, and I haven't even played the thing yet...!

Encore!! :yes:


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I really like what I am seeing here. I love the backgrounds (dissident, philosopher, clergyman) and how they're also different by culture. I'm noticing a very conspicuous obfuscation of how Brandon carefully avoids selecting certain options in character creation, as well as dialogue (a shame! I would have loved to have seen the descriptions of the Vailians, for instance) So I'm wondering, is that because you guys didn't want to show that, or was it unfinished/tested?
Loving the UI too.

One thing though...

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Could we maybe select our character colours off of this one?

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In character creation, I didn't notice any mention of the racial bonuses, but maybe that hasn't been implemented yet. Also, I think it would be good to just have more gameplay-relevant information at that point in addition to the lore, for example how big an effect each point of an attribute has.

 

 

Someone on Neogaf found this :

 

Racial bonuses - from Gamebanshee

 

* Aumaua: +2 Might

* Humans: +1 Might, +1 Resolve

* Elves: +1 Dexterity, +1 Perception

* Dwarves: +2 Might, +1 Constitution, -1 Dexterity

* Godlike: +1 Dexterity, +1 Intellect

* Orlans: +2 Perception, +1 Resolve, -1 Might

 

Looks perfect to me. Dwarves +con -dex is the correct way to do dwarves.

 

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Someone on Neogaf found this :

 

LoL, Josh posted that in the attribute thread right here on the obsidian board.

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One thing that is kind of concerning to me at the start of the game is due to the fact that there's no skill selection in the character creation, how is a new player supposed to know what skills are other than seeing a few options in the dialogue?

 

They won't really know about them until they hit level 2.

 

I would like to be able to select a talent at level 1 to imprint a style from the get go, but yes, skills are also important.

 

 

@Aslinng

Josh Sawyer listed the racial bonuses a few days ago and noted that they're not final.

Eora's dwarves are kind of strong!  :yes: That's fine, though there's lots of +Might already so I'd prefer an accent on Constitution.

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