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I really glad someone else, Kotaku, raised this. I thought that someone making  a video of his exploits in the game killing minority groups with the title "making the world a better place" as utterly tasteless and not funny at all . I actually deleted a post I made earlier on these forums when the video was first posted because I thought I was over-analysing this development so I'm glad Kotaku shares my sentiment

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I really glad someone else, Kotaku, raised this. I thought that someone making  a video of his exploits in the game killing minority groups with the title "making the world a better place" as utterly tasteless and not funny at all . I actually deleted a post I made earlier on these forums when the video was first posted because I thought I was over-analysing this development so I'm glad Kotaku shares my sentiment

 

 

I found it was pretty funny and really did give me an incentive to play the game, kind of like a 40K inquisitor set loose in the world.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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I really glad someone else, Kotaku, raised this. I thought that someone making  a video of his exploits in the game killing minority groups with the title "making the world a better place" as utterly tasteless and not funny at all . I actually deleted a post I made earlier on these forums when the video was first posted because I thought I was over-analysing this development so I'm glad Kotaku shares my sentiment

 

 

I found it was pretty funny and really did give me an incentive to play the game, kind of like a 40K inquisitor set loose in the world.

 

 

If you go on some rampage in the game and kill everyone that would be fine but if for example you go into the game and only profile gay NPC and then make a video with the title " how to deal with the issue of homosexuality" and post it  then that would be very concerning. Surly you can see the difference?

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"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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It's dark humor and funny exactly because it's offensive, the point is that he's playing it so ridiciously - to illustrate just how stupid profiling really is.. Now if they were being serious (which they weren't) we could talk about an outrage.

 

A developer said in response "the profiler at it's core *should* be offensive to anyone*. We talk about how bad it is that's it's being used this way, but neglect to get outrages over the fact that profiling is being done every single day around the world. That's what's offensive about this..

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It's dark humor and funny exactly because it's offensive, the point is that he's playing it so ridiciously - to illustrate just how stupid profiling really is.. Now if they were being serious (which they weren't) we could talk about an outrage.

 

A developer said in response "the profiler at it's core *should* be offensive to anyone*. We talk about how bad it is that's it's being used this way, but neglect to get outrages over the fact that profiling is being done every single day around the world. That's what's offensive about this..

 

I'm not following you, what do you mean in the context of this discussion  by "neglect to get outrages over the fact that profiling is being done every single day around the world"

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

 

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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I really glad someone else, Kotaku, raised this. I thought that someone making  a video of his exploits in the game killing minority groups with the title "making the world a better place" as utterly tasteless and not funny at all . I actually deleted a post I made earlier on these forums when the video was first posted because I thought I was over-analysing this development so I'm glad Kotaku shares my sentiment

 

 

I found it was pretty funny and really did give me an incentive to play the game, kind of like a 40K inquisitor set loose in the world.

 

 

If you go on some rampage in the game and kill everyone that would be fine but if for example you go into the game and only profile gay NPC and then make a video with the title " how to deal with the issue of homosexuality" and post it  then that would be very concerning. Surly you can see the difference?

 

 

Yep, one guy kills a wider set than the other in the game.  The title I assumed to be a bit tongue in cheek, anyway.

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It's dark humor and funny exactly because it's offensive, the point is that he's playing it so ridiciously - to illustrate just how stupid profiling really is.. Now if they were being serious (which they weren't) we could talk about an outrage.

 

A developer said in response "the profiler at it's core *should* be offensive to anyone*. We talk about how bad it is that's it's being used this way, but neglect to get outrages over the fact that profiling is being done every single day around the world. That's what's offensive about this..

 

I'm not following you, what do you mean in the context of this discussion  by "neglect to get outrages over the fact that profiling is being done every single day around the world"

 

My suspicion is that he's saying that the game highlights a problem that perhaps as a society we should be outraged over but aren't - namely the day to day profiling of people within our society and how the use of the "profiler" in Watch Dogs is an underline to the dangers of real profiling, ramped up in Video Game style to a level which its odoriferousness cannot be ignored.

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It's dark humor and funny exactly because it's offensive, the point is that he's playing it so ridiciously - to illustrate just how stupid profiling really is.. Now if they were being serious (which they weren't) we could talk about an outrage.

 

A developer said in response "the profiler at it's core *should* be offensive to anyone*. We talk about how bad it is that's it's being used this way, but neglect to get outrages over the fact that profiling is being done every single day around the world. That's what's offensive about this..

 

I'm not following you, what do you mean in the context of this discussion  by "neglect to get outrages over the fact that profiling is being done every single day around the world"

 

My suspicion is that he's saying that the game highlights a problem that perhaps as a society we should be outraged over but aren't - namely the day to day profiling of people within our society and how the use of the "profiler" in Watch Dogs is an underline to the dangers of real profiling, ramped up in Video Game style to a level which its odoriferousness cannot be ignored.

 

 

Okay I understand that concern and how it might be seen as discrimination , in the USA a person from Pakistan going through customs at an airport might get scrutinized more than a person from France. We know the reasons for this. But my point is much simpler. I have an issue, for example, with someone making a video in a game like Watch Dogs with the title " how do address the crime in the USA" and then showing in- game footage of them only killing African Americans and then posting it and people finding it funny. I don't see how this is normal or dark humour

 

Sorry but that's just me?

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"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Serious business.... The "moral high grounders" are let loose once again over things nobody gave a **** about a few years ago when the world was still just as it is now but with one less subject to be butthurt about.

 

So the world changes...

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Okay I understand that concern and how it might be seen as discrimination , in the USA a person from Pakistan going through customs at an airport might get scrutinized more than a person from France. We know the reasons for this. But my point is much simpler. I have an issue, for example, with someone making a video in a game like Watch Dogs with the title " how do address the crime in the USA" and then showing in- game footage of them only killing African Americans and then posting it and people finding it funny. I don't see how this is normal or dark humour

 

Sorry but that's just me?

 

I suspect the problem is that regardless of the intent of the poster, there will be viewers who'll think "**** yeah!" when they see the video.  It does remove - to me as well - any ability for the video to be funny.

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Serious business.... The "moral high grounders" are let loose once again over things nobody gave a **** about a few years ago when the world was still just as it is now but with one less subject to be butthurt about.

 

So the world changes...

 

Yeah, its terrible state the world is in. We actually challenge people around there actions and opinions on the Internet especially when those actions or opinions are considered offensive

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"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Okay I understand that concern and how it might be seen as discrimination , in the USA a person from Pakistan going through customs at an airport might get scrutinized more than a person from France. We know the reasons for this. But my point is much simpler. I have an issue, for example, with someone making a video in a game like Watch Dogs with the title " how do address the crime in the USA" and then showing in- game footage of them only killing African Americans and then posting it and people finding it funny. I don't see how this is normal or dark humour

 

Sorry but that's just me?

 

I suspect the problem is that regardless of the intent of the poster, there will be viewers who'll think "**** yeah!" when they see the video.  It does remove - to me as well - any ability for the video to be funny.

 

 

I'm glad someone of your reasonable perspective also doesn't find it funny. It reinforces the fact I am not over-analysing this particular development because I know I sometimes do that

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

 

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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BruceVC: No. It's not just you. Anyone having a field day with exclusively bounty-hunting specific categories digital NPCs marked as "Jew", "black", "gay", "Asian", "white", "white-collar worker", "programmer", "botanist", "poor", "CEO", etc, and then flaunting it as "Good riddance" is basically making a big, fat ad for some hate-speech message that makes that person tick - and indeed it can provide other people with bad judgment or ill intent a carte blance for doing the same, or much worse, go full on Breivik-postal about it.

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It's not hate if you're only targeting Elves.

Inb4 Keyrock agrees with that, but Orcs on the other hand, or rodents... ;)

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I suspect the problem is that regardless of the intent of the poster, there will be viewers who'll think "**** yeah!" when they see the video.  It does remove - to me as well - any ability for the video to be funny.

Nothing wrong with shooting scat fetishists or hentai collectors in the spine, man.

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BruceVC: No. It's not just you. Anyone having a field day with exclusively bounty-hunting specific categories digital NPCs marked as "Jew", "black", "gay", "Asian", "white", "white-collar worker", "programmer", "botanist", "poor", "CEO", etc, and then flaunting it as "Good riddance" is basically making a big, fat ad for some hate-speech message that makes that person tick - and indeed it can provide other people with bad judgment or ill intent a carte blance for doing the same, or much worse, go full on Breivik-postal about it.

 

You have articulated my concern with this type of video accurately, nice one :)

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

 

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Hoo boy, this thread is heading down this path YET AGAIN. *sigh* Allow me to leave this here and unsubscribe for at least a day while this runs its course.

 

HUNT: Horrors of the Gilded Age

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt1n5ZkZReQ

 

Alternate title:  Left 4 Dead: Old-Timey Edition

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Yeah, its terrible state the world is in. We actually challenge people around there actions and opinions on the Internet especially when those actions or opinions are considered offensive

 

 

Context in mind, someone will always get offended about something. Lots of challenging to do, lots of windmills.

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Hoo boy, this thread is heading down this path YET AGAIN. *sigh* Allow me to leave this here and unsubscribe for at least a day while this runs its course.

 

HUNT: Horrors of the Gilded Age

 

 

Alternate title:  Left 4 Dead: Old-Timey Edition

 

Well it looks interesting to me so far.  Will look for more information to see how it shapes up.

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Hoo boy, this thread is heading down this path YET AGAIN. *sigh* Allow me to leave this here and unsubscribe for at least a day while this runs its course.

Every thread must be dragged down. Maybe we should make a segregated forum for those posters?

 

 

:D :D

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