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Update #40: Orlan First Look and Ziets on Pantheon Design

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Wow, I got chills when reading the description of Woedica. Great update. Thank you!



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Does no god at all really remember what she used to do/how she ruled? :(

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I'm a fan of the Exiled Queen and a nice hook as her being a bane for oath breakers. I love those kinds of things so much I finally got around to making an account.



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When it comes to gods one thing that conufses me is what sort of god would willingly take on the portfolio of "Greed" or any other negative describing word? I would imagine they would try and put a positive spin on it and say they are the god of "Wealth" or "Luxury"


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Hei guys, not to spoil the nice update and I know raised fists are common symbols for resistance,  but would you mind picking another color or so for the orlans raised fist symbol?

 

reminds me creepily of

http://archive.adl.o..._aryan_fist.asp

Unless of course they are white supremacy racists, then it's kind of fitting



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I think I'm gonna love those orlans. Great portrait!



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"lso it's kinda silly for all these priests of deity X to claim their
deity is the one true god in a system where there's many different real
gods and everyone is aware of that including themselves. Add to that
that all these gods are petty and mortal, and the silliness just gets
out of control.

 


Either make people behave in a way that's consistent with these many
deities' relative importance (i.e. they would usually pray to several
different gods, for instance), or change the pantheon to make the gods
worthy of the exclusive reverence they expect. As it stood in D&D it
just wasn't believable."

 

You completely misundersatnd how the D&d/FR pantheon works. In fact, majority of people in the Realms pray to multiple dieties as you suggest. And, most dieties don't try to force peopel to only worship them. On top of that, some dieties actually pledge loyalty to other gods and expect their followers to do the same (see Helm). Also, not all the gods are petty and mortal. ie. The Creator Gods ala Moradin of the dwarves and Corelleon of the elves don't act like that (and they do basically act as our god does for our repsective races). heck, even duergar still respect Moradin as the Creator and their chosen dwarven god still  a part of the dwarven pantheon.

 

In conclusion, don't post about stuff you obviously know very little about.

 

 

ABOUT UPDATE: SolId stuff. The listed goddess definitely has potential.



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I get a lot of vibes from Neil Gaimans American Gods.

Interesting update, thanks for that one!

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Out little friend looks like a cipher on some investigation. Love the looks, looks like a middle age private eye with his pistol and while holding evidence with a napkin :)

Can use one or two of these guys in my dwarwen ripper squad :)

 

Also great update about deities!


Edited by cyberarmy, 30 January 2013 - 12:23 AM.


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I am pleased with this. I do hope the next race will be less familiar in appearance though. The kossith of the qunari are one of the more interesting races to have come out of a new ip in recent years, as an example.



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Awesome update!!!
Obsdian, you guys just rule, I have loved the past games you guys have made and am really looking forward to this game and the new South Park!

 

Keep the updates coming!



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Great update! I'm particularly pleased and inspired by the interesting name choices, especially Woedica (love the name, not to mention the rest! Really, truly a stellar start)

One thought about the pantheon building though: while it's nice to see the amount of depth put into each god/goddess and the variety of items in the portfolios of single deities, I wonder: do the gods act according to their portfolio, or is their portfolio really a description of their actions? It seems that D&D deities are written as though the former is the case, while the latter would appear to allow for less linear conceptions that can change over time based on their actions (i.e. Woedica comes to kill an oathbreaker but upon approaching the person, a widowed mother with child in her arms, breaks the tendency towards Vengeance and leaves, and subsequently changes her perspective in favour of widows or young mothers etc, and this becomes part of her portfolio)

 

Just a thought


Edited by fortuntek, 30 January 2013 - 12:37 AM.


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I still maintain that there ought to be a God of Confusion though :p Has few worshippers, very little power... but manifests himself in small, misunderstood ways. This god wouldn't just cause confusion, but would actually be confused himself. Therefore divine interventions are rather unpredictable and misguided or unasked for (but usually rather harmless). :p


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The name reminds me of Boudica, so I wonder if they have a correlation as powerful women who ended in downfall.  Great stuff!


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The orlans look interesting, and I absolutely love the deity example.  Nice update - thanks.

 

One thing I wonader about is how much of the background info (like the deity backstory) will be avalable in-game (such as in manuscripts encountered by the PC) and how much will only be available externally (such as in downloadable PDFs)

 

Anyhow, I love this kind of information - it makes the world feel more...well, "complete".



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I like the illustration, don't really think much one way or the other of the deity description, given that I don't feel I really have much context to mentally place it "in the world" yet.

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Cipher looks to me like a CSI: P:E ;)

 

Great stuff - 'nough said.



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I'm going to hate myself for this, but...

 

Surely Woedica is derived from (or is intended to evoke) Boudica, the warrior queen who lived several centuries before the Germanic tribes that became the English came to Britain.

 

So technically it's old British/Celtic, not old English.

 

Sorry.


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:bow:  ZIEEEEEEEEETS! :aiee:

 

On of my favorite developers has finally written an update. Fantastic!

 

Thank you so much for the excellent update. You are a beacon of light through the fog of Project Eternity. :yes:



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"Orlan" means "eagle" in Russian. I wonder if it's a coincidence that the character has bird-like features







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