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Probably one the coolest characters I know of.
I think the only Detective I spent time on (across all installments of the series).


I could swear I've seen that guy before somwhere... ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_qgVn-Op7Q

A very intelligent awesome movie :) err, might not be the same actor but follows the beige trenchcoat trend ^^

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I tend to enjoy the more intelligent characters. Unfortunately, many writers try and fail to have intelligent characters. And we're left with having to accept that they're smart by others telling us so, rather than seeing it. This is why I like the protagonists in the Brent Weeks and Patrick Rothfuss books, they know how to do it properly.


Smart and unwise, too. Yes, this can be a lot of fun. I also get a laugh out of Damien Sandow of WWE fame, he's such a delightfully over-the-top caricature of an intellectual snob.

Sand from NwN2 was great, too.

while those are great to have around as npcs, that's not what I meant at all.
I meant, actually smart. intelligent, sociable, wise. well rounded.

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Agatha Heterodyne from Girl Genius is awesome and a great example of a good female character. I also like Katara, Korra and Lin Bei Fong from Avatar. An understated comic relief character is always nice and I actually appreciated Alastair's humour in Dragon Age Origins quite a lot, he is based on Xander from Buffy I believe. (Hope I don't get nuked from the heavens for mentioning DA:O)

As for villains Loki is cool, I get where he is coming from. My big sister is perfect too... :|


for mentioning DA:O? no, for mentioning Buffy...


I didn't want people calling me out on the true origins of the character. :p

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I'd like to see a Dave Gemmel (RIP) character immortalized in a game. Admittedly cheesy, yes, but he really could write unapologetic, me-against-the-world characters. Then again I am betting my ass that the blacksmith in Skara Brae in Ultima 7 was based on Druss.

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I liked Sand from NWN2 as well. his arrogance, his intelligence and his lawfulness ... and of course his neutrality :)

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I liked Morrigan in DA:O, I wish they had done more with her character, but she was really the only party member I liked all that much in DA. so I wouldn't mind a similar archetype. I also liked a lot of the legendary party members in Arcanum (the bane of kree, gorgoth, Kraka-tur, ect.) that you got at the end, it really felt awesome to be fighting a long side people you had been hearing stories about the entire game. I also liked some of the secret ones like, Gar the worlds smartest orc, and Torian Kel. Mostly I would just like for party members to have a large part in the world and give you some reason to want to hire them, instead of them just being a bunch of goobers waiting by the side of the road for somebody to take them along on an adventure.

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I liked Morrigan in DA:O, I wish they had done more with her character, but she was really the only party member I liked all that much in DA. so I wouldn't mind a similar archetype. I also liked a lot of the legendary party members in Arcanum (the bane of kree, gorgoth, Kraka-tur, ect.) that you got at the end, it really felt awesome to be fighting a long side people you had been hearing stories about the entire game. I also liked some of the secret ones like, Gar the worlds smartest orc, and Torian Kel. Mostly I would just like for party members to have a large part in the world and give you some reason to want to hire them, instead of them just being a bunch of goobers waiting by the side of the road for somebody to take them along on an adventure.

Morrigan was trying hard to be Kreia, she sometimes even succeeded, which made her the most memorable character of that game.

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What the title implies. What kinds of characters interest you.
What characters you ran across that are awesome/badass/funny/great/whatever and you'd love if the develoeprs make something similar.

So post here.
What are some of your favorite characters. Give the writers ideas and inspirations.

Me?
I'd want to see something like King and his 2 bodyguards (Niels and Bohr) from Exiern. They are utterly awesome.

Here are some of their moments:


http://www.exiern.com/?p=1023


Stopped reading at the second panel because they misspelled "ought." Aught means "all," not something you "should" do or have a "duty" to do.

Morrigan was trying hard to be Kreia, she sometimes even succeeded, which made her the most memorable character of that game.


No, Morrigan was not trying to be Kreia. She was always taking a selfish/pragmatic view of the situation. She never challenged you on "morally questionable" or self-serving actions. Kreia challenged you on every choice you made and wanted you to think, learn, be insightful and be self-critical about your decisions, and to avoid thinking in terms of black & white morality.

Edited by AGX-17, 07 November 2012 - 01:22 PM.


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An evil character I made (Natsume) that turned good on a Naruto roleplaying board.

This sentence is wrong on so many levels :mellow:
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Morrigan was trying hard to be Kreia, she sometimes even succeeded, which made her the most memorable character of that game.


No, Morrigan was not trying to be Kreia. She was always taking a selfish/pragmatic view of the situation. She never challenged you on "morally questionable" or self-serving actions. Kreia challenged you on every choice you made and wanted you to think, learn, be insightful and be self-critical about your decisions, and to avoid thinking in terms of black & white morality.


I don't think it's really necessary for a character to "challenge" you. I don't regularly have people in real life judge my actions like that, and I sort of find that annoying when npcs do it. I would rather an npc act in a realistic way and not attempt to mentor me all the time( I mean Kreia sort of was a mentor but I digress). I liked Morrigan because of her voice acting which I thought was really emotive and generally good, I liked her because of her story line( Her mother is a dragon and she gives birth to the anti-christ what's not awesome about that) and I liked her because towards the end of a game I grew attached to her in a way I really didn't with any of the other party-members in DA:O, who I just thought were kind of uninteresting losers, but for whatever reason I liked her.

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I'd want to see something like King and his 2 bodyguards (Niels and Bohr) from Exiern. They are utterly awesome.

Here are some of their moments:


http://www.exiern.com/?p=1023


Stopped reading at the second panel because they misspelled "ought." Aught means "all," not something you "should" do or have a "duty" to do.


So you diss the entire comic because of one characters speech oddity (or misused word)

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Riddick. That one doesn't need much explaining. General badassery, Cliché'd past but interesting origins. Kinda goes a little off in Chronicles, but the character remains solid and with the expansion into games, I think the character stands up well.

A Starbuck like character from the new BSG. It was perfect because the character did not change much with the gender swap and Katee Sackoff made it golden. Cigar smoking, card playing pilot jock filled with arrogance and a complete disregard for authority.

Malcolm Reynolds - An old war hero who can't let go of the past in a world where his crew are his family, and he will do anything for them (especially if it involves pissing off the Aliiance). Ahh screw it I would love the entire crew of firefly ;)

Tyrion like character. - By far the most popular in the tv series, but in the books I feel he surpasses even that. Tyrion plays the game of thrones, and he plays it well. Also, Cersei, I don't want her sort of character as an NPC, but she is by far one of the strongest characters in the series. Hate her, and that shows how great she is.

And one for the sake of a massive cliché, Vincent Valentine from Final Fantasy 7, because I just cant stop being 10 years old in my heart, dark haired gun toting transforming bad ass with a nasty past and a story of unrequited love and eventual loss. Penance incarnate, loved him since the beginning.

I think those will do for now.

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I hope for a dark and brooding sort. Not quite like Batman, but more along the lines of sarcastic/smart-ass mode of Mike Thorton and the second season Blackadder. A bit more reserved, maybe. I always found Bruce Wayne's sense of humour lacking, especially for someone that smart.

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I'd like to see a character like Elizier Yudowsky's interpretation of Professor Quirrell in Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality (I'm not one for fanfic, but I make an exception for this writer).

Quirrell is...smart. Incredibly, dangerously smart. In some ways, he reminds me of Irenicus from BG2, but far more cold and calculating. He always thinks three steps ahead and prides himself on not falling for the logical fallacies and myths that seem to ensnare other wizards. This makes him more than a bit cynical and distant. His clever prodding and probing of Harry's intentions and motivations are insightful and he's a skilled battlemage because he prepares, he uses the element of surprise and he always goes for the kill.

I almost believe he may not be the antagonist of the series, because it's very hard to envisage Harry being able to defeat him. But as a companion or antagonist, his presence in the story is almost mesmerizing.

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Character-wise my most favourite character is Jigo from Princess Mononoke and his entire rant he has with A****aka while sharing fire and food with him is my favouritest monologue in the movie (closely followed by lepper Osa's rant). I dare to say he was most fleshed out and layered character in whole movie, at first bitter but not unkind, with opinions on life withouts illusions, seeing how harsh life around him is, knowledgable and resourceful, but still with edge and possesing imposant physical prowess and other talents, all that while following his own agenda, while siding with whoever he momentarily deals with and benefits him the most. I can't express enough how much I enjoy his character.

Edited by Ywerion, 13 November 2012 - 12:01 PM.

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Could do with a family based on the House of Borgia ;)

That ought to be interesting.

Edited by Karranthain, 13 November 2012 - 12:32 PM.


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Lawful evil types 1 or 2:
http://tvtropes.org/...Main/LawfulEvil

Possibly/hopefully in a party member. I mean, the closest to this that I remember seeing is Vhailor and Vhailor was a really awesome character. Possibly a party member of the Knight Templar variety:
http://tvtropes.org/...n/KnightTemplar which is also like Vhailor, but he's not the only way to develop this character type. Vhailor is inhuman because the man has transformed into or has been transfigured by his ideals, but there is a lot to develop in a genuinely human character(even perhaps with some perspective) who has put this mask on their approach and perspective to the world.

Also I'd like to see affably evil characters: http://tvtropes.org/...ain/AffablyEvil Maybe we don't want a major villain who is affable but very evil seeming, but I wouldn't mind some NPC(or party member) who broadly fits into this trope.

Clever figures who use Xanatos gambits to win: http://tvtropes.org/...n/XanatosGambit So, they may be your enemies, or they may be your allies, but the common tendency is that they are really good at winning no matter what path you take by setting up the game as an I win-you lose in advance.(There are multiple suggested character types mentioned in the article, but it's easy to build a character like this once you know what it has to do)

Henry Kissinger: http://en.wikipedia....Henry_Kissinger Need I say more???? :p

Also, I think that some degree of recognition of heroes/adventurers as inherently dysfunctional people would also be kind of nice. I mean, adventurers are workaholics; they aren't afraid of putting their lives on the line(with real and extreme risk) at any second or even at the smallest provocation; who continuously kill people; who invest large sums of time and money into becoming good at killing people(even before they start, as professional killing equipment is costly); who are continually making difficult moral decisions; and who either can't or won't integrate with mainstream society with jobs more likely to result in conventional success, happiness, and all of that, even if they do start to get very rich. I mean, I'm fine with a hero/adventurer(or even villain) finding a happily ever after, even the entire party doing so, but I think recognition of the extreme nature of adventuring makes some sense.(More and of a different nature than peasants simply heckling the adventurer, but deeper and more psychologically rooted)

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Oh, also it would be nice to have a major character that was actually pitiful. Not just comic material, but actually pitiful. Kind of like Gollum being pitiful, except not exactly a repeat. So, pitiful villains or pitiful heroes may be interesting. It may not be desirable to have an outright party member be pitiful, then everybody would hate the character. However, finding somebody deeply pitiful who has failed on some profound level at living may be interesting to play out.

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I'd love to have a Companion (temporary or permanent) that's just horribly weak, a rebellious commoner fighting "The Man" (Occupy reference kind of). One of the "sheep" who isn't a Hero with any special abilities, might be a decent Blacksmith at the Stronghold, but in your party he is rather worthless.

I loved it in Suikoden that you could bring your Blacksmith with you, or your Cook, to fight in your party. They had some special abilities but were rather pointless and not really necessary for the progression of the game (they were important for your Stronghold). But I still brought my Chef with me because I thought it nice (Roleplaying-ly) to have a Chef with me. Not so much Character Inspiration perhaps, or perhaps it is I don't know... ^would be fun imo

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One of the only good things about Final Fantasy XII

Edited by Osvir, 14 November 2012 - 06:57 AM.






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