Ignatius Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) I'd rather we just forget about this as soon as possible. Yes, people act in ways and say things that we don't like, and they'll continue to do so, and as it turns out some of them like the same games we do. Not much else you can do about it. If it upsets you, try not to replicate that kind of behavior in your own life. But really, let's just move on. Edited October 18, 2012 by Ignatius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlorn Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) yeah you guys aren't exaggerating and making it worse with this thread and complaining about people's, who you don't know, feelings. The party looked fun and stream went fine. There were probably 10k people watching that stream. There are going to be a few bad apples. When you try to crusade against these people, you just give them more power by making the situation worse. And you make the rest of us normal people annoyed for having to explain this to you and put up with your misconceptions and PC attitudes. Edited October 18, 2012 by Grimlorn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guts Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) That same rule applies in so called real life too. (IMO internet is pretty real too, but maybe it's just me) Most if not every women like attention and compliments about their appearance. So do guys. That same thing happens in real life all the time (maybe in a little different tone) and it really isn't this big deal. It's just great ego boost form time to time. I just hate it when people are being overprotective over everything. There's a big difference in saying "you look nice today" and the stuff people posted on the stream. Try saying some of that stuff in a bar to some random girl and his boyfriend and see what happens. Edited October 18, 2012 by Guts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haerski Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 @Teuthida: To be honest I didn't follow the chat too carefully, but I didn't see anyone saying anything like that during that whole time. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but most of commenters were just lightly joking around. I just can't see any huge injustice here that needs an apology. If someone said that it definitively was inappropriate and stupid, but hardly an excuse to start women rights campaign here on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takamori Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Don't be sorry for something that you didn't do. If there is retards over the internet, well patience, don't apologize for it , just be one of the many that defend the good behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sistergoldring Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) Some of the stuff I read was definitely in poor taste, unfortunately it seems to come with the territory on the internet. I don't think people are right in assuming that all people like attention being focused on their appearance regardless of if it being positive commentary. When a pack of anonymous strangers are making personal comments I'm not sure that you can assume it's flattering to the recipient. However, that being said in this instance they didn't appear uncomfortable. Edited October 18, 2012 by Sistergoldring 1 The Divine Marshmallow shall succour the souls of the Righteous with his sweetness while the Faithless writhe in the molten syrup of his wrath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeludor Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Seeing the terrible harassment in the live stream comments last night made me cringe. I'd just like the Obsidian staff to know we're not all horribly misogynistic, racist, socially-stunted a-holes and we are sorry you had to see that. Sincerely, Hopefully the majority of your backers I agree 100% It's really sad how people can remain anonymous. They feel they can get away with anything. If they had treated ladies like that in person, they would have either been charged with sexual harrassment or had the tar beat out of them, or maybe both. It's disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It think watching the recording and not seeing the actual questions as they asked, it give a different perception because I only hear the questions they didn't ignore and for the most part they seemed to roll with the stupider stuff that came up. I imagine if you saw the questions firing around you probably got a different picture of the people trying to participate in the chat. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyourprime Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Meh. Obsidian's full of D&D nerds who probably browse the internet just as much as we do. I'm sure they knew full and well what it's like. Were the comments ****, yeah from what I've read (I had the stream in full screen mode most of the time). Some moderation would have helped in that situation, but I don't see nor feel the need to apologize for the idiots out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeludor Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It think watching the recording and not seeing the actual questions as they asked, it give a different perception because I only hear the questions they didn't ignore and for the most part they seemed to roll with the stupider stuff that came up. I imagine if you saw the questions firing around you probably got a different picture of the people trying to participate in the chat. For sure. There were quite a few Good questions that went unanswered because of all the spam for them to shout out to *insert country here*. Too many meme posts... but that's what happens on live feeds. People want to be "recognized" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabaliero Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Geez, 5 pages alrdy. I think OBSIDIAN got over it, what ever it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badmojo Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 This thread is producing nothing useful, only arguments going back and forth. I suggest closing it mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enclave Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I think this article pretty much sums up my feelings of the OP's comment. http://www.nytimes.c...zing.html?_r=3 So what? You're proud of the segment of the community that was going on about the girl kid that was at the party being a loli? You think it was perfectly fine all those guys telling the green shirt woman to take off her top? People should apologise for that crap. If not apologising for comments like that is what makes you so proud of being an American it makes me glad I'm Canadian. Unlike that article I take it as a point of pride that Canadians are known for being polite, well mannered and not total asshats. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereticSaint Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Racist and sexist comments on the internet? That never happens! But really, apologizing on behalf of other people is something you don't do. Furthermore, as others have pointed out, I'm sure the people at Obsidian were more than aware of what a stream chat could contain before they decided to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensuki Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) Even they were making fun of Alvin (Bodie rules!). I'm sure a lot of it was all in good humor Edited October 18, 2012 by Sensuki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceferret Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 @Enclave I am "Canadian" and polite and I fail to see where pride comes into the conversation. I simply think the folks at Obsidian are grown ups, and your or the OP being offended on their behalf is unecessary (and apologizing for the Internet ridiculous). Also, to take an air that we Canadians are somehow superior to Americans for our behaviour is kind of insulting in its own right Perhaps I should get offended on their behalf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereticSaint Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) @Enclave I am "Canadian" and polite and I fail to see where pride comes into the conversation. I simply think the folks at Obsidian are grown ups, and your or the OP being offended on their behalf is unecessary (and apologizing for the Internet ridiculous). Also, to take an air that we Canadians are somehow superior to Americans for our behaviour is kind of insulting in its own right Perhaps I should get offended on their behalf. Naw man, it's cool, since a single American said that we shouldn't be sorry for the rest of the internet that means all of America is a garbage heap. Because that's how logic works. GO CANADA!(This post was sarcasm) Edited October 18, 2012 by HereticSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamerlane Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I think we need to start a thread apologizing on behalf of Canadians for feeling superior to Americans because... ****, I'm lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droogle Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Quit being melodramatic. The stream comments were ****, yes, but there is no need for white knighting. That was the worst part about the stream. All the white knighting made me want to puke. classy nerds reinforcing stereotypes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedelric Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Can not say I was surprised, it all required more moderation. The parts that did not make me cringe was very enjoyable though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damkyan Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It seems like it is a lot more easier to be an idiot and say what we want from behind a screen. But, there is a lot of people that are not so bad and make these jokes only in an humorous way. I agree that it does not show a good image of us, but I have seen so many terrible things on the net... "What can change the nature of a man?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anek Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 They had a good sense of humor about it. The only real offensive stuff I saw was some of the racist stuff and the targets of the comments just laughed about it. I'm sure they're familar with the things that come out of the internet enough to take it with a grain of salt. Yeah, Obsidian handled it really well, and especially Alvin seemed to have lots of fun reading the live comment stream and giving witty answers even to potentially offensive comments. But a bunch of comments - which the Obsidian devs thankfully ignored - were really crossing the line and made me embarrassed for being part of the same fan community. I don't think they deserve replication here, but let's just say some of the sexual advances were more than crude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure79 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I'm sure they were all prepared for immature comments that would inevitably be thrown around. It was a public stream after all. I doubt anyone at Obsidian is emotionally scarred from what a few anonymous people had to say over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Didn't see most of the stream because of timezone difficulties, but I remember the Planetary Annihilation Kickstarter Party livestream. John Comes' (Scathis) wife got in front of the camera and some people seriously posted "man the harpoons". No drama ensued and all was fine and dandy, but it still was rather... uncool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooine Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It one thing to point out that some people were rude and being a**holes. (They were) But apologizing for the internet? That's taking white knighting to a whole new level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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