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Which historical elements to you want to see in Project Eternity: the Poll

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Poll: Just how historical should the setting of PE be? (208 member(s) have cast votes)

Which historical social issues would you like to see?

  1. Misogyny - Women are subservient to men (91 votes [8.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.90%

  2. Voted Disease - Diseases are common and potentially deadly (145 votes [14.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.17%

  3. Brutality - Harsh punishments and torture are common (148 votes [14.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.47%

  4. Class differences - The poor are serfs or have no say in society (170 votes [16.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.62%

  5. Intolerance - Religious and ethnic divides are more pronounced (166 votes [16.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.23%

  6. Colonization - "Modern" societies are exploiting more "primitive" ones (150 votes [14.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.66%

  7. Religion - Religious institutions have real influence on the governments (153 votes [14.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.96%

How big impact should magic have made on the society?

  1. Huge - Societies are nothing like their real- world historical counterparts (25 votes [12.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.02%

  2. Large - Societies differ a lot from those in the history books (97 votes [46.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.63%

  3. Voted Medium (61 votes [29.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.33%

  4. Small - Societies are by and large similar to historical ones (22 votes [10.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.58%

  5. Tiny - Societies are exact analogies of historical ones (3 votes [1.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.44%

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Just one question, re: misogyny.

In a world that is aware of souls, is aware of souls being reborn, where souls can fracture and split into multiple bodies, where multiple souls can reside in the same body, where souls are not gender-based, and everything is highly focused on the strength of souls....

...where a woman could have a pure, strong soul and a man might have a weak, fractured soul...

...where religions are vastly different...

...would it be likely that the same misogynistic culture would develop as has developed in many of our own?

Wouldn't the soul be the important thing in this world and not the gender?

(And on that note, one might question all the other options in the poll, seeing as how this game is not set on our Earth, is not set in our history, so it's kind of hard for it to be historical in the way we would be familiar with.)


Now that would be an interesting twist, nice point :-)

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I'd enjoy all the poll options, but still this is a fantasy game and magic has probably played a major significance in the politics and social issues in this world. A bad example on how to implement both realistic themes and fantasy into a game is Lionheart, which didn't feel immersive at all since fantasy and realism were mixed together in a confusing way. In Arcanum this interaction between realism and fantasy worked much better.

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I think that if you look at the actual history rather than fiction, calling imperial China the nice part of town seems fairly absurd. Life as a subsistence farmer was never particularly nice to start with and add to that their exploitation by the state and the land-owners, the threat of bandits and raiders in times a turmoil, the living conditions of the convict work-gangs, and the chaos when dynasties fell and the picture is pretty grim. The amazing thing is that people still seem to have managed to find some small bit of happiness despite all this.


Well it is not like dynasties fell all the time and sure people had to pay taxes and so forth to the powers that be. And when the lords and states did go over whatever line the peasants recognized as reasonable it did not end up well for anybody. But they also had easy times of the year and were always surrounded by their family and community. People lived like this reasonably happily for hundreds if not thousands of years. I dont find the picture that grim. Sure there were grim times of course.

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I also have a bit of a problem with gender relations and how they are presented as if in the past societies were woman hating, they certainly did not think of themselves that way. Yes they were pretty crap from a modern perspective but people in the past were not modern people and more to the point the women of the past were rough and tough people, it was not like they were just sitting their meekly being repressed for thousands of years. So when you put modern thinking people into a society like that it just wouldn't work. So I am not a big fan of trying to model some sort of historical gender relations thing.

Besides that it is just too soon. It is not like those sorts of gender structures are ancient history or do not exist anywhere in the world today.





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