Kopi Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Why so few? Its digital, after all - no loss. I saw a couple of fan-rpg sites trying to raise funds for a $1,000 - $5,000 reward. Those high level rewards would be perfect for communities and fansites to raise funds, yet obsidian is obviously blind to the issue. They should have planned for this from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Unless Obsidian is offering some sort of delivery themselves, it's probably not actually costless. Depending on their arrangement with the distributors like Steam and so forth, there will still be additional expenditure for them to give out more licenses through whatever distribution service since Steam is unlikely to do it for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolokolus Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Try to remember kickstarter isn't a storefront, it's a donation collection. If you are donating 10 large on a project like this, I'm guessing it's not so you can get 50 copies of the game for resale/gifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamerlane Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Erm. He wasn't talking about resale/gifting. He was talking about forums pooling their money to make single, large donations, and how there probably won't be enough downloads to go around for those donors. Anyway, I've got no dog in this fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolokolus Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 In the case of pooling money, it seems like everyone involved would have to agree on the reward tier they are going for? If they really need the extra digital copies for their group then I guess they could just add digital copies (3/$60) until they get the number they're looking for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmage Silver Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 You should take a look at some of the specific community pledge programs. For example, Obsidian is giving RPG Codex 30 digital copies to be distributed among their top donors, and they're only aiming at 5000$. Exile in Torment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopi Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Obsidian marketing people just failed hard here, that's my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbeth Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Obsidian marketing people just failed hard here, that's my point. >>> Try to remember kickstarter isn't a storefront, it's a donation collection. So no, they didn't. Chronicler of the Obsidian Order; for the pen is mightier than the sword! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopi Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) Obsidian marketing people just failed hard here, that's my point. >>> Try to remember kickstarter isn't a storefront, it's a donation collection. So no, they didn't. Who cares what it is? Nobody. Edited October 5, 2012 by Kopi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbeth Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) Who cares what it is? Nobody. Who cares what it is? What it is, is the entire point! And that’s Kickstarter, not a warehouse. You pledge a sum because you want to see this game made, you don’t pay to get copies of the game in bulk. Why so few? Its digital, after all - no loss. Think it over: every digital copy you receive you’ll pass on to friends and relatives because you have no use for five PE serial numbers. That’s fine, there’s nothing wrong with that but of course it’s a ‘loss’: those are five or ten copies that go to (otherwise) prospective buyers. To give more free digital copies is economically unfavourable for Obsidian. Digital, so no loss – really ... Edited October 5, 2012 by Macbeth Chronicler of the Obsidian Order; for the pen is mightier than the sword! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknoman2 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 if a site is raising funds for the 10k donation, they dont do it for the copies but for the rest of the rewards and most probably for the party invitation. and those who give for it dont expect copies but a video of the party. if they wanted the copies, they would have just pledged themselves 35 or 50 or 80 to the ks instead of pooling it on some site 1 The words freedom and liberty, are diminishing the true meaning of the abstract concept they try to explain. The true nature of freedom is such, that the human mind is unable to comprehend it, so we make a cage and name it freedom in order to give a tangible meaning to what we dont understand, just as our ancestors made gods like Thor or Zeus to explain thunder. -Teknoman2- What? You thought it was a quote from some well known wise guy from the past? Stupidity leads to willful ignorance - willful ignorance leads to hope - hope leads to sex - and that is how a new generation of fools is born! We are hardcore role players... When we go to bed with a girl, we roll a D20 to see if we hit the target and a D6 to see how much penetration damage we did. Modern democracy is: the sheep voting for which dog will be the shepherd's right hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet85 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Who cares what it is? Nobody. That is very ignorant. If you are going to hand over 10,000 dollars, you really ought to know what you are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopi Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Who cares what it is? Nobody. Who cares what it is? What it is, is the entire point! And that’s Kickstarter, not a warehouse. You pledge a sum because you want to see this game made, you don’t pay to get copies of the game in bulk. Why so few? Its digital, after all - no loss. Think it over: every digital copy you receive you’ll pass on to friends and relatives because you have no use for five PE serial numbers. That’s fine, there’s nothing wrong with that but of course it’s a ‘loss’: those are five or ten copies that go to (otherwise) prospective buyers. To give more free digital copies is economically unfavourable for Obsidian. Digital, so no loss – really ... What you want to call it is totally irrelevant here. What is obsidians goal? Raise money. Would it be beneficial to both obsidian and the fansites if they'd provide them with more than enough digital copies? Yes. Undecided potential backers are more likely to donate if they are encouraged through their community, that's all this really is about. If they could get a copy -and- get a high tier reward for their community, everybody wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlux Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Obsidian marketing people just failed hard here, that's my point. 1. Kickstarter is NOT, I repeat, KICKSTARTER IS NOT A STORE. It is a fund raising platform! 2. If you think 10 licenses is not enough, then simply pledge $10,000 without selecting a tier. You will then receive 500 licenses. 3. I seriously doubt that you are even planning on pledging $10,000 anyway. Anybody who complains about a few licenses most certainly does not have enough cash to pledge so much money. 4. Your trolling is getting way too much attention. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdownes Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 It's a logistics issue. It would make more sense to just raise awareness than to try to divvy up the higher reward tiers. Why would a person throw into a larger pot when they can get a smaller one them self? Their best bet is probably to communicate with the company PR person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitron Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) You can create 400 Kickstarter accounts and get the 25 dollar tier 400 times. 400 x 25 = 10000 Edited October 5, 2012 by Infinitron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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