NOK222 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Battle Cry studios opened headed by Rich Vogel, a guy who worked on TOR, but was laid off from the MMO team. I'll try to keep the Bioware bashing at minimum. "I have always admired and respected Bethesda’s approach to making great, original games. It’s a belief and passion I share, and I’m looking forward to building a team of high quality developers who want to bring that same commitment and creative energy to the games we’ll be creating." Can't be sure what kind of game he'll be working on, probably something with multiplayer. Since there is a job opening with the descrption "Online Design Experience." Edited October 4, 2012 by NKKKK 1 Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2B Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 He also worked on SW:Galaxies as the Executive Producer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOK222 Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 That's pretty cool, I'm glad he still has a job. Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 He's working on TES:Online obviously. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOK222 Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) He's working on TES:Online obviously. How so? I'm sure TES is being done by not-bethesda. Edit: It's being done by another sub of Zenimax, not Battlecry, they seem to have created this new studio for another purpose Edited October 4, 2012 by NKKKK Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Since this may involve some "gaming" discussion, moved to Computer & Console. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I don't know enough about how Bethesda is handling their MMO, but I would assume a guy with this type of resume will be collaborating in some way on TES Online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Bethesda and "great, original games". lololololololo И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Oh god yes. Is there any game maker less original than Bethesda? (Sensible money: Fallout Online) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 "That's pretty cool, I'm glad he still has a job. " Why? If the anti BIO (even though REAL BIo had little to do with KOTORM MMO) crowd is to be believed KOTOR MMO 'bombed' (despite selling 2mil+ copies) and this punk was one of the main guys who obviously did not to a good job. If this is true, he doesn't deserve to have a job in the gaming industry. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Don't know if Bethesda would bet even more money on a large-scale MMO, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't risk diluting the Fallout brand with an MMO. I'd expect them to try to expand them in the free-to-play/social market, but who knows! Maybe this is actually Vogel going to single-player party-based turn-based RPGs and Bethesda buying the rights to Wizardry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 So, if you read the Bethblog bit on the topic, for some reason I'm not really getting a picture of an RPG studio. At least, not ones like ES. Maybe they want to make a new ... non-fantasy FPS-actionRPG online game. Or something. But until they announce something, it's really just guesses in the wind. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Don't know if Bethesda would bet even more money on a large-scale MMO, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't risk diluting the Fallout brand with an MMO. First part certainly may be true and despite standard MMOs being Vogel's primary speciality it could be non MMO and non RPG. That hasn't exactly been Beth's strong suit though and their big earners are their standard broad but shallow RPGs. Outside that even Rage (let alone Brink, Rogue Warrior, even Star Trek going back a bit) of their non RPGs have done below expectations. I don't think the second would be a major factor though. If that were a concern it would be doubly so for TES, as that's still their flagship property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm going to hope it's not an ES MMO ... more non-fantasy MMO settings would be more potentially interesting to me ... leave ES as a single-player series. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm going to hope it's not an ES MMO ... more non-fantasy MMO settings would be more potentially interesting to me ... leave ES as a single-player series. There already is an ES MMO announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOK222 Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 "That's pretty cool, I'm glad he still has a job. " Why? If the anti BIO (even though REAL BIo had little to do with KOTORM MMO) crowd is to be believed KOTOR MMO 'bombed' (despite selling 2mil+ copies) and this punk was one of the main guys who obviously did not to a good job. If this is true, he doesn't deserve to have a job in the gaming industry. Whether or not that's true, which it isn't, I wouldn't wish joblessness on anybody most everybody Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Games don't always "bomb" because they are "bad". Sometimes the market potential is just overestimated. Stuff in quotes meant to be arbitrary, undefinable values. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 TOR clearly didn't meet long term expectations, as much as I love the game. The layoffs were disappointing, but necessary to keep the game operating under realistic numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I don't think the second would be a major factor though. If that were a concern it would be doubly so for TES, as that's still their flagship property. And there was. No doubt. Except the project has clearly been started when the environment looked favorable for The Elder Scrolls, and after investing so much I think they just didn't want to pull the plug on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Don't know if Bethesda would bet even more money on a large-scale MMO Didn't they sue Interplay to get the rights back for the Fallout MMO? Though I guess they could've been after the money, or just wanted to do FO:O first, then settled with TES when they lost the lawsuit? Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Didn't they sue Interplay to get the rights back for the Fallout MMO? Though I guess they could've been after the money, or just wanted to do FO:O first, then settled with TES when they lost the lawsuit? They never had the intention to let Interplay do a Fallout MMO, that much is clear, but I don't think it necessarily mean they want to move forward with a Fallout Online right now. And The Elder Scrolls Online was in development much earlier than the lawsuit, in fact, they talked about it during the lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I'm going to hope it's not an ES MMO ... more non-fantasy MMO settings would be more potentially interesting to me ... leave ES as a single-player series. There already is an ES MMO announced .....for some reason I'd thought that had been cancelled. Maybe I had a dream during a nap one afternoon. Ah well. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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