Enoch Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Hey, "swords with swords" is an under-explored fantasy concept/theme. Overall, I am disappointed by the dearth of Skyrim jokes based on the modern verb usage of the work "rim." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Of course it all pales in comparison to the imbecilic story, dialog and to a lesser extent quests. Perhaps they learned something after Fallout 3 although the trailer about the return of the dragons (yawn) doesn't suggest much. A cliched story can still be entertaining if told well. Not that I'm expecting much, but if the story is passable, the world is interesting to explore, and Skyrim isn't as terminally bland as Cyrodill, I'll probably be entertained by Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labadal Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I Think I will like it. Oblivion wasn't perfect, but it had two expansions that were better than the main campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I'm perfectly fine with Chosen One vs. The Return of the Dragons if the story does not advertise its greatest illogicalities and its worst gameplay elements as the primary plot mechanisms. At worst it would be Gothic 2's dragon hunting (which as a plot arc was pretty retarded grinding, but at least you got some cool dragon fights). Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaesun Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Bethesda should honestly sub-contract Obsidian to write the story for Skyrim. I'd almost consider buying and playing it if they did. Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Bethesda should honestly sub-contract Obsidian to write the story for Skyrim. I'd almost consider buying and playing it if they did. Bethesda is collaborating with Kirkbride IIRC. Much better choice to handle the TES lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Bethesda should honestly sub-contract Obsidian to write the story for Skyrim. I'd buy that for a dollar! Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Bethesda should honestly sub-contract Obsidian to write the story for Skyrim. I'd almost consider buying and playing it if they did. Bethesda is collaborating with Kirkbride IIRC. Much better choice to handle the TES lore. But he's talking about story, not lore. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 But he's talking about story, not lore. They're linked. The main protagonist is always in the centre of world changing events as foretold by an Elder Scroll. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/04/01/t...ersary-special/ No Skyrim news but it's an interesting listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) Kinda Oblivion-ish Rawr Big Improvement for the Orcs, far less derpy Khajiit also look pretty badass Bearded zombie Technovikings How many CTD's do you reckon it will take to cross those mountains? Edited April 18, 2011 by WDeranged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) man, some of those screenshots make me want to jump in my computer and run through the forest trails into the mountains. i'm going to end up spending way too much time on this game. i can tell already. edit: and gooooood lord does that orc look better than oblivion orcs Edited April 18, 2011 by entrerix Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 The Orc looks like a green version of the genie from Disney's Aladdin. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minchi Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 The graphics are much better than oblivion but i hoped that the engine would be used to make another fallout game. Now that would be totally awesome wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterfade Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Attributes are axed. http://au.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/elderscrolls...iews&page=1 On the topic of character advancement, Howard noted that the eight original character attributes from previous Elder Scrolls games have been condensed into three: magica, health, and stamina. He justified this by stating that the original eight all "trickled down" into each other and that this change allowed players more direct control over their characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Attributes are axed. http://au.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/elderscrolls...iews&page=1 On the topic of character advancement, Howard noted that the eight original character attributes from previous Elder Scrolls games have been condensed into three: magica, health, and stamina. He justified this by stating that the original eight all "trickled down" into each other and that this change allowed players more direct control over their characters. Hm, that's possibly the first bit of news I've not liked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) More info on the skill system Edited April 18, 2011 by WDeranged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmp10 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) Attributes are axed. I guess this was to be expected since they didn't streamline them enough in Oblivion/Fallout3. But how can they hope to maintain alchemy/enchanting without them? Majority of magic effects in Oblivion resulted in increase/lowerinf of stats. Doesn’t seem like they could work similarly with perks. This probably means the end of SPECIAL for Fallout. Edited April 18, 2011 by pmp10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 i guess this just makes skills that much more valuable? Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 After reading a bit more I'm seeing the sense in it, Oblivion and Morrowind's systems were messy and exploitable, but still...I enjoy spending skill points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 The old Codexian joke comes true: one day the Elder Scrolls will just involve putting + points into HP, Mana and Damage. We'll see how it works in practice, but christ, the solution to a system that doesn't work is to fix the system, not destroy most of it. It's not hard to make attribute points matter in interesting ways, most other CRPGs do it. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Hopefully the looks of Argonians and Bosmer will be improved as well. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) I dunno. I think the attribute system in the ES games was pretty messed up. I think dropping it altogether is a pretty decent idea, otherwise they would have to rework the heck out of it. edit: I also think getting rid of athletics and acrobatics as skills is a good idea, but as always Todd Howard's belief that simplification solves all problems continues to disturb me. Edited April 19, 2011 by Slowtrain Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) If they can balance the perks right it won't be such a great loss, now I understand why they're choosing to speed up the levelling process (an idea I wasn't keen on), they give you less to do on each level up but you level up more often, so hopefully with a good selection of perks it should balance out. I'm anxious to see it all in action though, I'm just as interested in seeing the new menu system, Eurogamer has a bit of new info about that, though I remember a Todd quote from a while back saying he wanted to make an inventory like Apple would make it...hmm. Edited April 19, 2011 by WDeranged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I don't get that really. The leveling up in Oblivion was absurdly fast -- your character could gain 2 levels just falling down a flight of stairs. Even in Skyrim, despite hearing some good things, it's still the typical Bethesda/Todd Howard all-gamers-have-ADD approach to game design. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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