Meshugger Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 We have two new screenshots from german mag GameStar. Look at them here and here. Looks awful, I think it is even worse than DA:O on lowest settings. Journos gushing over gfx improvements are rather amusing. Das etablierte Kampfsystem von Dragon Age: Origins mit Pause-Modus, "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) The new info in general doesn't say much, but what exactly does more dynamic action mean? More animations? more combat-moves? more skills that will results in the previous two points? What? I think they've actually talked about less talents but upgradeable. EDIT : Note that they've changed the screenshots on GameInformer with some 'updated' versions : Edited July 14, 2010 by WorstUsernameEver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 The new style really needs some getting used to. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vault_overseer Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 new new s##t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Am I dreaming or are the graphics really worse than in DA? This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I'll wait for the gamescom teaser. Hopefuly this will shed more light on DA2's graphics capabilities. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majek Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Am I dreaming or are the graphics really worse than in DA? It's the old republic engine :D 1.13 killed off Ja2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblarg Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 What ****ing terrible graphics. You know, if Alpha Protocol can be ripped for graphics when it looked better than DA:O, this better be completely slaughtered for looking worse than DA:O. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 David Gaider talks about the screenshots here and here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 At least I'll be able to run the game on my Pentium II. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Gaider has the Denis Dyack syndrome of lowering himself to the average board-dweller level to defend his stuff. Just let it be and finish your game, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mera Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 The new info in general doesn't say much, but what exactly does more dynamic action mean? More animations? more combat-moves? more skills that will results in the previous two points? What? I think there will be greater changes than that. You know, if Alpha Protocol can be ripped for graphics when it looked better than DA:O, this better be completely slaughtered for looking worse than DA:O. It is made by Bioware. Even if those screens were final, DA2 reviews would be praising the graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 To be fair, I don't think I've ever seen a review praising DA:O's graphics. Granted, most didn't think it was much of a problem that the game didn't have striking visuals, but they definitely didn't praise its graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junai Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 The Dark Sun'ish style is cool. I'm dead tired of cyan-blue WoW-faeries running around in acid-trip land.. The oversized sword sucks.. J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) It reminds me a bit when a movie trailer hits the screens (or net) and people complain about the CGI while not bothering to realize that the CGI in movies is usually finished weeks (if not days) before the release and whatever is in the trailer - which is compiled months beforehand - is (baring a total lack of funding) not what is going to be in the final product. They are early screenshots. I'd be a lot more concerned (not really, but its the best word I can come up with) if those were new screenshots and it was being released today. Edited July 14, 2010 by Amentep I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorton_AP Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 It is made by Bioware. Even if those screens were final, DA2 reviews would be praising the graphics. I agree, but it's a double edged sword. Take those screenshots and say Obsidian made them, and people here would be defending them. Frankly I think the technical quality of the characters look fine. To me there's a lack of geometry in the scene in general to really make a qualitative assessment of the graphical capabilities of this game. I think most people complaining about the graphics are probably more not fans of the art style. But like the one fellow was complaining about the ground texture, but it looks like a rocky ground with reddish sand/dirt strewn upon it. Given the area appears to be some sort of a wasteland, I'm not sure what more he was expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I think most people complaining about the graphics are probably more not fans of the art style. But like the one fellow was complaining about the ground texture, but it looks like a rocky ground with reddish sand/dirt strewn upon it. Given the area appears to be some sort of a wasteland, I'm not sure what more he was expecting. Something that didn't look blurry and low res? I personally don't care much about graphics, and I'm sure that by the time DAII comes out it will be a fine looking game, but those ground textures, the general lack of lighting are really impossible to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 You know, if Alpha Protocol can be ripped for graphics when it looked better than DA:O, this better be completely slaughtered for looking worse than DA:O. It is made by Bioware. Even if those screens were final, DA2 reviews would be praising the graphics. If there's one thing most reviewers get right, no matter how biased they may be, it's the graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 You know, if Alpha Protocol can be ripped for graphics when it looked better than DA:O, this better be completely slaughtered for looking worse than DA:O. It is made by Bioware. Even if those screens were final, DA2 reviews would be praising the graphics. If there's one thing most reviewers get right, no matter how biased they may be, it's the graphics. You mean when they talk about Bio games, or in general? Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niten_Ryu Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Bioware is building time machine back to the 2004. From technical point of view, this generation graphics peaked 2007 when Crysis was released. From art direction point of view there's still a lot to do. Bioware fails on both. Or rahter that both look good, for a game from 2004. Let's play Alpha Protocol My misadventures on youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) You know, if Alpha Protocol can be ripped for graphics when it looked better than DA:O, this better be completely slaughtered for looking worse than DA:O. It is made by Bioware. Even if those screens were final, DA2 reviews would be praising the graphics. If there's one thing most reviewers get right, no matter how biased they may be, it's the graphics. You mean when they talk about Bio games, or in general? In general. It is kind of hard to straight out lie about that since you have screenshots right next to the review and there's really no subjectivity about that. Edited July 14, 2010 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vault_overseer Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 You know, if Alpha Protocol can be ripped for graphics when it looked better than DA:O, this better be completely slaughtered for looking worse than DA:O. It is made by Bioware. Even if those screens were final, DA2 reviews would be praising the graphics. If there's one thing most reviewers get right, no matter how biased they may be, it's the graphics. You mean when they talk about Bio games, or in general? In general. It is kind of hard to straight out lie about that since you have screenshots right next to the review and there's really no subjectivity about that. Are those the same reviewers that called F3's graphics beautiful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 In general. It is kind of hard to straight out lie about that since you have screenshots right next to the review and there's really no subjectivity about that. Are those the same reviewers that called F3's graphics beautiful? And AP PS2-grade. And Singularity butt ugly. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorton_AP Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I personally don't care much about graphics, and I'm sure that by the time DAII comes out it will be a fine looking game, but those ground textures, the general lack of lighting are really impossible to defend. Lighting is a valid complaint. All I see are shadows on the ground which is hardly impressive. The ground though? IMO that's people just looking for something to nitpick on. I see rocky terrain with reddish dirt strewn along it. Viewed at an angle without specific focus on it. If this is what people need to pick on to complain, then either they're just looking for more ammo, or it's more of a comment that there was nothing else that could be pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos_hybrid Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) Some characters:Bethany: mage sister of Hawke I give it a day before an incest mod is made. Edited July 14, 2010 by Bos_hybrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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