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All that still requires a water cooling cabinet right.

Right >_<

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It may not be rational, but I really want the EVGA GeForce GTX 580 FTW Hydro Copper 2. :o

Only problem with that one is that Swiftech is doing the waterblock. They are the worst manufacturing quality I've seen on water blocks. Made the mistake of buying one once for my CPU. I took a look at it, the low production values, the screws that didn't quite fit and a few other things and threw it all in the rubbish bin. Bought EK products instead. If they had had somebody else making the blocks, I would probably have considered it.

Oh? I'd know nothing about such things. Good food for thought. But perhaps the waterblock on the card isn't as bad as what you bought as a separate piece for your CPU, if that makes sense. I've seen some reviews that think they're awesome, so...sigh. Never can tell, always a crapshoot seems like...and I personally think almost everything these days is built w/inconsistent quality, so ten ppl end up w/something cool and 5 ppl end up w/something that's junk. Not that it matters much anyway, since I won't be buying one anytime soon. :)

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I just bought a used Radeon HD 5870 a couple weeks ago for 150. I think the HD 5000 series is faster than the HD 6000 series.

Either way, awesome card!


It's not. They changed their naming standards for this generation. So while the 5870 is faster than the 6870, it's not faster than the 6970 which is the card that replaced the 5870.

Performance cards are 69XX, midrange is 68XX. So the 6870 is the replacement for 5770 (although that one is still in production, just aimed at another target audience now).

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I don't wish to seem like the drunkard I am, but how cool would it be to have a brandy cooled graphics card?

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Yes, a flammable substance inside a very hot computer would a great idea.

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Yes, a flammable substance inside a very hot computer would a great idea.


It would if it started coughing flames out the top when action got really intense.

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It may not be rational, but I really want the EVGA GeForce GTX 580 FTW Hydro Copper 2. :teehee:

Only problem with that one is that Swiftech is doing the waterblock. They are the worst manufacturing quality I've seen on water blocks. Made the mistake of buying one once for my CPU. I took a look at it, the low production values, the screws that didn't quite fit and a few other things and threw it all in the rubbish bin. Bought EK products instead. If they had had somebody else making the blocks, I would probably have considered it.

Ok, LadyCrimson made me curious as to how good it is, so I tried to buy the shiny new EVGA GTX 590 Hydro Copper, created an account on their (EVGA) webstore, put it in the cart and tried to check out... "we only ship in the US, Canada and Mexico" or some such >_<

...and no, Aussie stores don't stock it. So much for satisfying my curiosity ;(

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So, anybody tried the GTX590's yet? Curious minds wants to know :(

My current ATI5970 was a disappointment, with the excessive coil whine and constant "your display driver has stopped working etc." which makes most games a challenge to play. Mind you, it didn't start before I replaced the fan with a water block, so It might not have been noticable when running with the built in speed throttle that lowers the speed when relying on fan cooling.

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That's what I have I think. Mine has the souped up cooling system from ASUS. Really happy with it. No noise, no blue screens, very cheap for what you get. I think your block just wasn't making contact everywhere it needed to.

I noticed when I took my other card apart that there were like 8 or 10 separate chips covered in thermal paste aside from the large GPU one, all in contact with the copper plate holding the fan.

Edited by Gorgon, 16 October 2011 - 11:39 PM.


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That's what I have I think. Mine has the souped up cooling system from ASUS. Really happy with it. No noise, no blue screens, very cheap for what you get. I think your block just wasn't making contact everywhere it needed to.

I noticed when I took my other card apart that there were like 8 or 10 separate chips covered in thermal paste aside from the large GPU one, all in contact with the copper plate holding the fan.

I'm not really sure why Asus charge more for their cards, but I'm seriously tempted by the MSI one. Might just give it a shot. Just wondered if it would be better to put two 580's in there instead of a single dual gpu card like the 590.

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Performance wise you'll do better with two 570 than one 590 (although not by much). So yes, two 580 will outperform a 590. They will also run warmer, but with water cooling that shouldn't be much of an issue I think.

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*Whimper*

Caved in an ordered this one 10 minutes ago.

Even if it says 'usuall ships in 1 to 2 months'. I'll just have to suffer in silences.

[silence]*suffering*[/silence]

Not saying anything...

Cruel world...



Wouldn't make much of a differnce I suppose, as each an every Aussie online store has ETA unknown for all 590 and most (except from some brands I'm not familiar with) of the 580 cards.


@Spider: I'm not sure I can squeeze two 580's in on top of each other. Heck, even the 5970 required some tearing out of things that normally is part of the casing :sorcerer:

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It looks nice, but that's more money than you need to pay for a graphics card. Maybe you're fabulously wealthy, what do I know.

Edited by Gorgon, 19 October 2011 - 03:12 AM.


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Let's just say time is for me a more valuable currency :sweat:

Which is why I sometimes don't have the patience for stuff that doesn't work.

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You mean it's already prepped for water cooling. I don't know that ATI cards work any worse than Nvidia, or that paying extra will somehow improve on that.

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You mean it's already prepped for water cooling. I don't know that ATI cards work any worse than Nvidia, or that paying extra will somehow improve on that.

Well, the advantage (as far as I see it) is that I don't void the warranty. My old card started misbehaving about a month after I had replaced the cooler (and voided the warranty). It only just became really pronounced when I started playing FO:NV, because it was the first time in a very long time that I played something that didn't run on VirtualPC, Dosbox or otherwise didn't require much from a card. I've had very bad luck with my last two ATI cards, one lasting almost 2 years and one lasting less than 2 months before starting to act up. My old Leadtek Geforce 5900 Ultra is still running on its 7'th or 8'th year. I'm just trying to see if I would have more luck with nVidia again.

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I'm still happy with my 580 vs the Radeon, far fewer niggles :thumbsup:

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@Spider: I'm not sure I can squeeze two 580's in on top of each other. Heck, even the 5970 required some tearing out of things that normally is part of the casing :(


Yeah, but the 580 is a shorter card. But if there are hd cages or stuff in the way I can see how there is a problem. Although that would have been easy to figure out with any ruler. But I'm sure the 590 will be fine, when you get one (there is a shortage worldwide, apparently nVidia underestimated demand and didn't produce nearly enough of the higher end cards).

Edited by Spider, 20 October 2011 - 05:10 AM.


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I'm ready to buy a new video card and was thinking about getting one of the hydro cooler thingies this time...but then remembered I'd have to configure my pc case for the water cooling blocks etc. and I don't feel like it...didn't build this PC with that in mind so it'd probably be a hassle (and extra expense above the card itself). Next PC...I'll just keep using the room AC instead. :shifty:

But I'm gonna run out and buy a GTX 580 now. Can't believe they're still close to 600 bucks for the 3GB memory one. Better be awesome...and maybe serve me dinner too.

Edited by LadyCrimson, 22 October 2011 - 01:35 PM.


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Well...the store didn't have any 590's (expected) but they did have some of the 590 Classified's ($30 more for it vs. just '590'). I agonized a while whether the $140 increase over the 580 was worth bothering for but in the end I said F-it and bought it. I'd have bought the plain old 590 if they had it but for $30 wasn't going to stop me so...

Keep in mind I don't have water cooling and SLI'ing two hot-running cards that are going to be practically sitting on top each other in my case isn't a good idea, so single-card is it for me. Besides, I don't run super-resolution for games. AC unit in the room does pretty good and I always have it on anyway since I don't like hot weather....

Anyway...since I don't OC no problems with that one issue. I've never bought the "latest & greatest" before, so we'll see what I think of spending the ridiculous sum of $830 (that's w/tax) to get it. :shifty:




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