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So, Is this game delayed or not?


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Though that is based off the assumption that Obsidian will actually be doing work on Alpha Protocol. If it's just SEGA screwing with their release planning, then OEI most likely won't be getting any funding to improve the game. It's happened before where publishers have just sat on a game that is finished.

We really don't know what the cause of the delay is. After all, the game has been reported finished in late August or whenever it was. And it seems to be confirmed that there is no new release date as of now as most retailers seems to be guessing or just putting up placeholder dates.

Of course, if the game is gonna be delayed, I hope that Obsidian will be getting the opportunity to work on it and improve it. But yeah, it's obviously on a much smaller scale but Atari delayed Mysteries of Westgate forever because of their own stupid reasons, even though the game was finished around the time of Mask of the Betrayer came out. And Ossian didn't get to do any work or improving upon the game in all that time (aside from updating it to avoid all the patches breaking it).

Basically, anything can happen in the wonderful world of the gaming industry. :)

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I think the idea of sitting on a finished game is still a very rare occurrence. The only one I can think of is Bloodlines.

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Also Arcanum and Wizardry 8, albeit for a different reasons, and off the top of my head.

More soberingly, Aliens: Colonial Marines might fit too, it was supposedly near finished a year ago and has disappeared into some 'will eventually be released' ether.

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well, now that we got word from Obs, I think we can safely assume the game is not canceled, right? o:)

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I have pushed that terrible albeit possible outcome to the side. I think it is important for games of this ilk to come to fruition and do well now more than ever to increase the longevity of the development of westernized rpg's. Too long have the giant yellow chicken riding girlie boys dominated the arena of console role playing games. Maybe I am wrong but I can remember discussing with a friend 5 or 6 years ago the lack of modern or sci-fi rpg's on the market. Heck I would still love to see a cyberpunk style rpg using a baldur's gate engine. As dated as it may seem I would play the crap out of it. Not to be too lengthy or off topic, I prefer rpg's of this nature to FF games and the like, so whatever it takes to make this title great so be it, so long as it actually gets made.


I really want to play this title, but not at the expense of other possible great titles like it because developers decide its not profitable due to unsuccessful garbage thrown out there failing on the market because it didn't receive the polish it needed... If you are a gamer that shares my taste I think you would agree that in this genre's infancy we need quality before quantity.

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i guess i agree. I don't like ten years of waiting for a game, even if it is really good, but I also don't want 10 mediocre games instead of it.

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Maybe this is why.....

http://www.joystiq.c...-sega/#comments

Ex-Midway guy named VP of sales for Sega
Sega of America enthusiastically announced today the hiring of Brad Wildes as senior vice president of sales at the publisher. According to the company's press release, Wildes brings 15 years of "successful management experience" to the job. Skills he acquired at Microsoft, Mattel, Konami and, most recently, Midway Home Entertainment.

Yes, Wildes' most recent gig was as VP of sales for North America and Asia at Midway, where he -- according to Sega, once again -- "successfully managed such titles as Mortal Kombat; Game Party; the Unreal franchise and NBA Ballers."

Midway is dead, friends, due in large part to low sales numbers for major franchises. Our definition of "successful" is obviously slightly different from that of Sega of America's.


And to top it off all of you who speak about how a delay is a good thing? Does anyone remember a game called Mercenaries 2?
That game was delayed due to EA feeling the need to hold back and perhaps make more money and it was a whole year of a delay just about like Alpha Protocol and the worst part?
There was a lot in the game that they took out of the final product due to the delay? Less stuff = better? I think not... and look how that game turned out? A delay did not make a bit of difference.

I liked the game... but the co-op sucked and to be honest it could of been better. So not always delaying something is a good thing... it may be worse and to add even more to the fire no word from the developer and publisher on why the reason for the sudden change in release date is not good. The longer you hold out the worst off it can be in some cases such as this.

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NOLF will remain the only true spy game anyway...


Covert Action. One of my favourite games ever.

I feel old. o:)

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Yeah, just got done playing a little bit of No one lives forever a few minutes ago.
That's one game along with the sequel that need to be remade for Xbox live arcade.

To bad the same can't happen for Goldeneye.... the chances of that are liking living to see Duke Nukem forever being made available to own.

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And to top it off all of you who speak about how a delay is a good thing? Does anyone remember a game called Mercenaries 2?
That game was delayed due to EA feeling the need to hold back and perhaps make more money and it was a whole year of a delay just about like Alpha Protocol and the worst part?
There was a lot in the game that they took out of the final product due to the delay? Less stuff = better? I think not... and look how that game turned out? A delay did not make a bit of difference.

I liked the game... but the co-op sucked and to be honest it could of been better. So not always delaying something is a good thing... it may be worse and to add even more to the fire no word from the developer and publisher on why the reason for the sudden change in release date is not good. The longer you hold out the worst off it can be in some cases such as this.


Mercenaries was a stinker from the beginning judging from the demo I played. Content not withstanding, the core game play and interaction with the game world felt floaty and just "off." I've got $50 that says anything cut from the game was content far too ambitious for the obviously inexperienced programmers they had assigned to the project (translation: it was cut because it didn't work or caused problems in other aspects of code deemed far more necessary).

Nobody cuts operational content out of their game just for kicks. Nobody.

NOLF will remain the only true spy game anyway...


Covert Action. One of my favourite games ever.

I feel old. o:)


Heh, some of us remember playing text based Infocom games so don't feel so bad. I never did play Covert Action but I remember Xenophobe (also by Microprose). Man, that was a killer title..

Edited by Anarchosyn, 04 October 2009 - 12:13 AM.


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And in the world of delusions: the delay is due to the inclusion of a nice, juicy toolset with the game. A modern era/cyberpunk toolset, mmm.....*drool* :*

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I think the idea of sitting on a finished game is still a very rare occurrence. The only one I can think of is Bloodlines.


Not sure you could call that sitting on a finished game, since they were contractually prevented from releasing it before Half-Life 2?

Must have been the worst engine licensing deal ever made, though.

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I think the idea of sitting on a finished game is still a very rare occurrence. The only one I can think of is Bloodlines.

Not that Bloodlines was exactly finished until few patches later...

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Not that Bloodlines was exactly finished until few patches later...


Ahh, the joy of the level that wouldn't transition unless you opened the console up and made it do so... Nostalgia kicks in.

Still, apart from those few buggy points.. it was a good game

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So, I have been reading this forum for the past few days and I have been wondering why Sega would not disclose an official announcement about the delay. Then I thought, if I was a spy why would I disclose my plan. I would use misinformation, lies, and silence to through off my assailents. So maybe Sega is doing just that. Maybe this is either:
1) A huge advertising scheme getting all the retailers to come up with false dates to get a huge angry mob aware of this game. For me I know its all i have been talking about for the last week. I have had several friends who knew nothing about AP to now be on the bandwagon.
2) An embarrassing acknowledgment that the game was rushed, and has a few horrible game glitches
3) A scheme to make more money when the market seems better to release such a title as AP
4) An embarrassing acknowledgment that the game was a complete failure and will be shelved indefinitely

In any case, the continuation of this feed is just adding to the speculation and misinformation feed to use through Sega. We can sit and talk about it all we want, but in the end we are no closer to figuring out what the heck is going on.

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So, I have been reading this forum for the past few days and I have been wondering why Sega would not disclose an official announcement about the delay. Then I thought, if I was a spy why would I disclose my plan. I would use misinformation, lies, and silence to through off my assailents. So maybe Sega is doing just that. Maybe this is either:
1) A huge advertising scheme getting all the retailers to come up with false dates to get a huge angry mob aware of this game. For me I know its all i have been talking about for the last week. I have had several friends who knew nothing about AP to now be on the bandwagon.
2) An embarrassing acknowledgment that the game was rushed, and has a few horrible game glitches
3) A scheme to make more money when the market seems better to release such a title as AP
4) An embarrassing acknowledgment that the game was a complete failure and will be shelved indefinitely

In any case, the continuation of this feed is just adding to the speculation and misinformation feed to use through Sega. We can sit and talk about it all we want, but in the end we are no closer to figuring out what the heck is going on.


Maybe sega do not talk because the try to reach the october limit.... if the can't.... in november they should talk about a new date... all seem to indicate that they try to release the game as fast as they can.

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For ****s sake, why can't they say at least something?

Even a delay is better than nothing. Just answer, is it delayed or no?

Edited by Gorth, 04 October 2009 - 10:32 PM.
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Even a delay is better than nothing. Just answer, is it delayed or no?


Wild guess: They haven't made up their mind as to the length of the delay, and won't announce anything until they have.

Edited by Gorth, 04 October 2009 - 10:33 PM.
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Even a delay is better than nothing. Just answer, is it delayed or no?


Wild guess: They haven't made up their mind as to the length of the delay, and won't announce anything until they have.

Then why can't they just say : "Sorry, the game won't come out in October 6th, we'll be announcing the new release date later."

Edited by Gorth, 04 October 2009 - 10:34 PM.
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Just let it go. There will be a bunch of potentially awesome games out in a few weeks.

Don't worry, be happy!




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