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This is awesome :) It's a bit much to grab at once, but I can see it integrated everywhere, instead of IM, Boards, SVN... I'm pretty excited about this.

 

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This is awesome :blink: It's a bit much to grab at once, but I can see it integrated everywhere, instead of IM, Boards, SVN... I'm pretty excited about this.

 

 

Same. I can really see the potential. And Google has just enough clout to get it adopted as the standard... not that it needs it considering how outdated email is and un-uniform other communication formats are. People will adopt naturally I think.

 

Wait, SVN? Oh wow, I guess it does replace that, too! Not Git though - Wave seems a purely centralised protocol?

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I'll take a "wait and see"-approach on this one.


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Shiny


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This won't replace email. Most email is on a one to one basis and doesn't benifit from any of googles features.

 

Personally I think 'collaboration' is overrated. There's a reason they dub "Sharepoint" as "Sh1tpoint".


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I still use paper mail and the telephone. :shrugs:


Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.

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This won't replace email. Most email is on a one to one basis and doesn't benifit from any of googles features.

 

Personally I think 'collaboration' is overrated. There's a reason they dub "Sharepoint" as "Sh1tpoint".

 

 

I believe you're incorrect for the simple reason that email can be completely emulated inside Google Wave.

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That wasn't my argument.


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That wasn't my argument.

 

Then wouldn't it make sense to tell me what your argument was instead of what it wasn't?

 

From what I can read your argument is most likely that email is "good enough" and that people don't need extra features. Somehow I doubt that holds water. Take a look at the Instant Messenger market. Take a look at the mobile phone market, take a look at the operating system market, the word processor market - people like extra features. Google provided the best start possible for Wave by making it backwards compatible with email by design. Vendors will probably start coding emails as Waves instead without you even knowing it. And when you do, nobody will be forcing you to use those extra features, but they'll be available for those who do want to use them.

 

So I guess I'm betting on two things here: 1) people will want to use it, 2) 'people' generally don't decide protocol formats and standards anyway (did consumers decide on SMTP or POP or IMAP or HTML?); programmers using those protocols do, and programmers love elegance and efficiency (they hate coding the same thing multiple times)... they also love new features.

 

Look at Internet Explorer. It loaded web pages. It didn't do much else, but it did its job. Along came some new browsers that added loads of extra features (some agreed as standard by de facto, some implemented based on new, better standards) and suddenly IE is bleeding market share (people/users) all over the place to these browsers until it finally gets upgraded to start conforming to new standards, protocols and add new features. And the biggest champion of these new standards is web developers and web vendors.

 

Microsoft will resist Google Wave with all its might (MS hates open standards because they can't be controlled nor locked to their products), but Microsoft's might is turning out to be worth less and less these days. Hotmail, MSN, and Exchange will continuously lose market share to new applications that utilise the full power of a free and open universal communications standard until Microsoft gives in and sluggishly starts implementing it to stem the bleeding.

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I disagree.


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People like features if they know what to do with them. Otherwise we're talking those things on penknives that claim to be for getting stones out of horses hooves.

 

I personally am often told I have a good telephone manner, but perhaps for that very reason I avoid the phone at all costs. I find it totally exhausting. I much prefer email, because it is simple, concise, and allows multimedia interaction, and has a record. I think a really sensible communication system should assist people to communicate in ways that they choose, rather than some communist nightmare of single usage style.


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It appears Google Wave 'documents' are collaberative like wikis. What does that mean? When I send hawt wave porn to my friends, can some yanker come along and change my main character's name to Britney Spears?


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Did you watch the presentation? If said yanker was added to the wave, he could indeed change the name of your main character to Gordon, but it would be a visible change. You can see the whole history of changes, and if need be, kick the guy out of your wave or/and restart a new one with trustworthier people in it, from a certain point in the history before the changes were made.

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tl;dw :lol:

Well, yeah, it is ;)

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*casts raise dead*

 

So, I have 8 invitations for this thingie's preview (beta) and being the misanthrope that I am, I have nobody to give them to. Anyone wants to try it out?

 

If you do, just PM me your email address.


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We could start an obsidian boards wave, that way we could waste even more time arguing about random rubbish :lol:

 

 

 

(gief me an invite plz ok.)

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Google Wave sounds very interesting indeed! Google have proven time and time again that they are an innovative company with interesting solutions, and I don't think they will let me down this time.


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