walkerguy Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I am particularly thinking of Anakin's battle inside himself with the dark side, and his final failure. What when wrong?... Twitter | @Insevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Everything DAWUSS Dawes ain't too bright. Hitting rock bottom is when you leave 2 tickets on the dash of your car, leave it unlocked hoping someone will steal them & when you come back, there are 4 tickets on your dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerguy Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 Yes, I know. Its just a fire starter. Twitter | @Insevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly_Nightshade Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Anakin made a lot of stupid decisions that came back to bite him in the ass in a very big way. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 To be fair, Anakin had no choice, since otherwise there would've been no Vader .... harhar.... But mostly, what went wrong with Anakin was he couldn't let go of his fears ... particularly the fear of being left alone. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerguy Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 And it wasn't really Obi-Wan's fault, but he should have been trained by someone else, a little more experienced. How good do you think Qui-Gon may have been? Twitter | @Insevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 And it wasn't really Obi-Wan's fault, but he should have been trained by someone else, a little more experienced. How good do you think Qui-Gon may have been? Qui-Gon was a very good Jedi master no doubt about that, Obi-Wan was more....modern in a sense, and he saw Anakin more as a friend than a apprentice...however Obi-Wan was still wise and couldn't really do much with Anakins whole reckless behaviour, I don't really think it would've changed the outcome unless Mace Windu trained him. Gotta love Mace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly_Nightshade Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 How good do you think Qui-Gon may have been? I think Obi-wan did as good a job as Qui-gon would have. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 He probably shouldn't have been trained in the first place - too old w/too much emotional baggage & anger already in place. Doesn't matter who he was apprenticed to... “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerguy Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 He probably shouldn't have been trained in the first place - too old w/too much emotional baggage & anger already in place. Doesn't matter who he was apprenticed to... Yeah, probably. Obi-Wan didn't really even like the idea of taking Anakin but Qui-Gon wanted to, and so it was done. Twitter | @Insevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothic90 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Well...bring balance to the force...the problem is, who says the order 66 is bad for the Jedi order? It got rid of all the mistakes, arrogance and ignorance within the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerguy Posted May 7, 2008 Author Share Posted May 7, 2008 Yes it brought it down. Mistakes and everything else as well. If only some of the clones could have been convinced to join the jedi, rather than blindly follow orders, things could have been different. I hate Jango Fett and his damn clones. Twitter | @Insevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerguy Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 Hey- whats the best space battle ever (movies, comics, games, w/e)? I dont know much besides a couple games and the movies, so I say Courscant space battle (clone wars) Twitter | @Insevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Well he did bring balance.. Before the Jedi holocaust they outnumbered Sith by the thousand. and after.... Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I am particularly thinking of Anakin's battle inside himself with the dark side, and his final failure. What when wrong?... He didn't have the high ground! Apart from that, he suffered from bad company (Palpatine) which preyed on his weaknesses, by convincing him that he was more than the rest. Something insecure people love to hear. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosta Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Yes it brought it down. Mistakes and everything else as well. If only some of the clones could have been convinced to join the jedi, rather than blindly follow orders, things could have been different. I hate Jango Fett and his damn clones. I never liked Mandolorians either. Your not all ways being honest when your telling the truth. Everything slows down when water's around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass-GameMaster Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 How can you hate the mando's? without them most of the galaxy wouldn't be the same. They were fierce battle ready warrior's whats not to like about them? ""Savior, conqueror, hero, villain. You are all things, Revan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly_Nightshade Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 If only some of the clones could have been convinced to join the jedi, rather than blindly follow orders, things could have been different. I hate Jango Fett and his damn clones. I would not say that Jango is to blame, nor would I say the majority of the clones are responsible. Only the first batch of elite soldiers had the ability to disobey orders, and, according to the Extended Universe, several groups did just that when they were told to fire on their commanders. Of course, the entire war, and the creation of the clone army, was engineered to bring Palps to a position of supreme power - a status that he used to cement his authority after the war was over. You must hand it to the guy, he really had almost all of the bases covered. The only thing that could have significantly disrupted his plans wold have been the defection of Vader, as Mace Windu would have killed him in his office - or at least that is what I gather would have happened after reviewing the book and movie. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 On the subject of Anakin's fall, Palpatine's speech about influencing the Midichlorians to create life sort of imply that Anakin was created for this purpose and thus was sort of predisposed to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 On the subject of Anakin's fall, Palpatine's speech about influencing the Midichlorians to create life sort of imply that Anakin was created for this purpose and thus was sort of predisposed to it. I thought it was because of everyone being pissed off over Anakin's Jesus birth DAWUSS Dawes ain't too bright. Hitting rock bottom is when you leave 2 tickets on the dash of your car, leave it unlocked hoping someone will steal them & when you come back, there are 4 tickets on your dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosta Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 How can you hate the mando's? without them most of the galaxy wouldn't be the same. They were fierce battle ready warrior's whats not to like about them? cause they degenerated into weaklings. thier old wolves that try to fight with out fangs. in other words there fools bound to fighting evan into old age, because that's all they know. Your not all ways being honest when your telling the truth. Everything slows down when water's around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile025 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 (edited) i believe anakin should never have been trained ... even obi-wan sensed that this kid [anakin ep. 1] is a great danger, i don't want to blame qui-gon , it wasn't his fault after all ... palpadine is the one that must be blamed! well if anakin hadn't fall in love with Padme' but this are just theories ... if only he hadn't stopped Mace Windu ... at least Louk saved him ... Edited May 29, 2008 by exile025 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerguy Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 i believe anakin should never have been trained ... even obi-wan sensed that this kid [anakin ep. 1] is a great danger, i don't want to blame qui-gon , it wasn't his fault after all ... palpatine is the one that must be blamed! well if anakin hadn't fall in love with Padame' but this are just theories ... if only he hadn't stopped Mace Windu ... at least Luke saved him ... Yes. He probably shouldn't have been trained in the first place - too old w/too much emotional baggage & anger already in place. Doesn't matter who he was apprenticed to... Yeah, probably. Obi-Wan didn't really even like the idea of taking Anakin but Qui-Gon wanted to, and so it was done. Twitter | @Insevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For The Republic Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 (edited) I am particularly thinking of Anakin's battle inside himself with the dark side, and his final failure. What when wrong?... What went wrong is he was manipulated by Emperor Palpatine. Not to mention the fact that if it was not for Quin-Gon this would never have happened. Edited May 29, 2008 by For The Republic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkpoint Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) The problem is that Anakin is a complete doofus. He's getting so obviously played by Palpatine without seeing it, and it isn't surprising that he falls in the end because you can see from a mile away that this dude is bad news. He is arrogant, creepy and easily offended. The biggest problem for me with how Anakin was handled in the prequels is that I as a viewer feel no sympathy whatsoever for this guy, so ultimately I feel no remorse whatsoever when he ends up with the bad guys. It's just "meh," especially the way the actual fall was done. Lucas stacked the films with clumsy hints of Anakin's "dark side," yet he somehow managed to make the actual fall feel like the result of a coin flip. And he still tries to sell Anakin's fall as an act of skewed good in order to save Padm Edited May 30, 2008 by Checkpoint ^Yes, that is a good observation, Checkpoint. /God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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