Dungeons and Dragons 4th Edition is on the way...

[Joseph Bulock]

Looks like they are finally using feats in a more consistent manner, and using a class power scheme similar to Iron Heroes. I'm really starting to get my hopes up about the mechanics of 4th edition.

 

Feats Development Post

You'll need a log in and stuff.

[steelfiredragon]

I like some of the 4e changes.

 

the 2ed/3e wizard sucks.

the 4e one sounds a bit better.

i dont like playing a wizard and having to rely on ol' betsy with the broken saftey.

 

 

i however dont like what they are doing to the realms., mainly killing off the high leveled casters, thats just dumb.

[Sand]

Ol' Betsy?

 

When my wizard is out of spells he just goes into melee and go at it with sword and shield.

[Deraldin]

Ol' Betsy?

 

When my wizard is out of spells he just goes into melee and go at it with sword and shield.

 

Retractable armour! Run out of spells? BAM! Full plate is on and into melee you go!

[Sand]

Mithril chain shirt and mithril heavy shield to be honest, wielding a masterwork alchemical silver short sword. Sometimes he dual wields with a light mace.

Edited November 28, 2007 by Sand

[steelfiredragon]

Ol' Betsy?

 

When my wizard is out of spells he just goes into melee and go at it with sword and shield.

ever watch Disney's version of robin hood?

 

one of the guards weapon a crossbow

[steelfiredragon]

so far the realms 4.0 sounds like a dirty diaper from 3 days ago in a newborn icu .

[Dark_Raven]

so far the realms 4.0 sounds like a dirty diaper from 3 days ago in a newborn icu .

I couldn't agree more.

[Joseph Bulock]

so far the realms 4.0 sounds like a dirty diaper from 3 days ago in a newborn icu .

 

That sounds like a well informed decision that was made after many hours of careful consideration.

[Pop]

You tell em, Joe Bulock.

[steelfiredragon]

so far the realms 4.0 sounds like a dirty diaper from 3 days ago in a newborn icu .

 

That sounds like a well informed decision that was made after many hours of careful consideration.

and that sounds like a poor attempt at sarcasm.

 

you failed

turn in your moderator status.

you cant be a moderator and do poor at sarcasm you must succeed at sarcasm

 

 

 

and fr4.0 sound bad as they are doing away with all the deities, they are trying to say that sehanine and selune are one in the same.

 

next up will be sune and hanali

 

 

boycott fr 4.0 wait for FR 5.0

[Dark_Raven]

4E sucks I don't see how people can praise it. The rules are bad enough, but trashing the Forotten Realms setting is blasphemy. Killing most of the gods and making changes with others is just plain stupid. They might as well have created a new setting and just call it quits with the Forgotten Realms instead of dragging it into the dirt.

[Cwicseolfor]

so far the realms 4.0 sounds like a dirty diaper from 3 days ago in a newborn icu .

 

That sounds like a well informed decision that was made after many hours of careful consideration.

and that sounds like a poor attempt at sarcasm.

 

you failed

turn in your moderator status.

you cant be a moderator and do poor at sarcasm you must succeed at sarcasm

 

 

 

and fr4.0 sound bad as they are doing away with all the deities, they are trying to say that sehanine and selune are one in the same.

 

next up will be sune and hanali

 

 

boycott fr 4.0 wait for FR 5.0

 

Hello mister stupid,

 

I am here to inform you that:

 

a) Joe Bulock is a developer working at Obsidian rather than a moderator

b) By all accounts if we are to judge his post as sarcasm, it was rather witty and well done! But why should we consider it sarcasm? Perhaps it is indeed a compliment for your outstanding show of intellect and wisdom!

 

Regards,

Me

[samm]

It might actually just as well be non sarcastic, as I did spend hours reading rumors and snippets of facts given by the Wizards and came to about the same conclusion. At first I even was positively excited about Living FR, for example, and curious about the new abilities dependent on your characters race, but now, after more and more disappointing information, I sure can't say much more than that critisised post did. I'll certainly have a look at the new core rules when they come out, but right now I don't see a realistic chance of me ever be able to enjoy a game set 4E FR, let alone running a round set in these new, bland and simplified surroundings devoid of any FR-feel they seem to be creating.

[Cantousent]

Hey, I like Bullock as much as the next guy, but he's posting here and so his comments are open to the exact same amount of criticism and scrutiny as any other member. Not only that, but I didn't think the comment was witty. On the other hand, I didn't find SFD's comments witty either. Mine sure as hell aren't witty. My comment: They shouldn't scrap the Forgotten Realms setting now. They should have scrapped it about 15 years ago. As far as the ROOLZ go, as opposed to the setting changes, I'll wait to see.

[steelfiredragon]

so far the realms 4.0 sounds like a dirty diaper from 3 days ago in a newborn icu .

 

That sounds like a well informed decision that was made after many hours of careful consideration.

and that sounds like a poor attempt at sarcasm.

 

you failed

turn in your moderator status.

you cant be a moderator and do poor at sarcasm you must succeed at sarcasm

 

 

 

and fr4.0 sound bad as they are doing away with all the deities, they are trying to say that sehanine and selune are one in the same.

 

next up will be sune and hanali

 

 

boycott fr 4.0 wait for FR 5.0

 

Hello mister stupid,

 

I am here to inform you that:

 

a) Joe Bulock is a developer working at Obsidian rather than a moderator

b) By all accounts if we are to judge his post as sarcasm, it was rather witty and well done! But why should we consider it sarcasm? Perhaps it is indeed a compliment for your outstanding show of intellect and wisdom!

 

Regards,

Me

 

in fact by name calling you are violating the end users agreement.

 

i read his post quickly and read the tag under his name as moderator.

 

my posts are not and never have been whitty, and his post was poor sarcasm.

 

i have not posted my reasons for stating that $ edition realms smells like a 3day old diaper from a newborn intensive care unit.

but i dont feal the need that i have to since everyone else already has.

the loss of the stat blocks, killing off gods and goddesses, combining gods and goddesses, having an eberron fan as a development lead or something, poor choice of comments made by $e developmenters.

 

will it end up being sick feces from a newborn intensive care unit, well i plan to boycott it myself if that ends up the case.

 

Ill give wotc the 4e wizard, never liked the spell slots.

 

but i also liked my ranger and paladin being able to cast spells to. and i have yet been able to find anything out about that part.

[Sand]

Hello mister stupid,

 

I am here to inform you that:

 

a) Joe Bulock is a developer working at Obsidian rather than a moderator

b) By all accounts if we are to judge his post as sarcasm, it was rather witty and well done! But why should we consider it sarcasm? Perhaps it is indeed a compliment for your outstanding show of intellect and wisdom!

 

Regards,

Me

 

Hey, Presto, we all know who Joe is and let me tell you something. We Obsidianites treat everyone the same regardless if he or she is a regular poster, moderator, or an Obs Employee. On a further note, I am naked while posting this.

 

[Musopticon?]

Just one thing: What prevents you people from playing in the old ed even after 4th is launched? I don't see their revamp as a problem, but you seem to look upon the thing like it's killing your enjoyment of the previous editions.

[Cantousent]

Just one thing: What prevents you people from playing in the old ed even after 4th is launched? I don't see their revamp as a problem, but you seem to look upon the thing like it's killing your enjoyment of the previous editions.

 

That's a great point. The worst you'll have to do is tinker with the old stats to produce a new Mystra. With as much as you guys like to play with the rules, I don't see why that's a problem.

[Magister Lajciak]

I don't really have a position on the topic of the god changes, but it does change things for those who don't want to change: It alters expectations of other players they may game with. After all, if it had no impact, there would be no reason for WotC to do the change in the first place.

[Dark_Raven]

The new novels will suck because of the change.

[Xard]

uhh, they suck regardless so...?

[Dark_Raven]

Not really. Cunningham and Greenwood kick ass.

[Xard]

Greenwood the pervert?

 

Don't know about Cunningham, like all other "rpg"-literature I'd guess her writing would range from abysmal to average, but I could be wrong

 

 

... it's not like whole fantasy genre has too many masters of prose

[Magister Lajciak]

Though I like fantasy for my CRPGs and PnP RPGs, I generally don't read much fantasy fiction. Come to think of it, I don't really read much fiction of any genre, unless you count RPG rule books as fiction. Well they certainly are not literature of fact.