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I was just sitting here in scorching summer heat with my body drenched in sweat and I came to think of Christmas and what it means to different people.

 

 

 

Christmas in Sweden has nothing do to with anything religious, it is about decorating your home in red&green, presents, food, fun with relatives you cant stand and of course, the annual Disney christmas special at 3pm. We dont even celebrate Christmas on Christmas, but on the 24th.. and we call it "jul" which is a norse word that doesnt really mean anything. Furthermore, everyone is expected to celebrate it regardless of race, colour or creed. It doesnt matter if you're muslim or jew, you WILL give presents and drink Gl

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It's not religious to me nor to most people I know. My extended family inconsistently will say a prayer over meals on Christmas, but that's the full extent of it.

 

As far as I can tell, it's a combination of gross commercialism and an excuse for a family gathering.

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My mom used to make us go to Church on Christmas Eve. After that I would go back home and my family would come over and exchange gifts (the one's from Santa came in the morning). So I guess it's sorta religious to me, but it's still about trees, lights, cookies, and fat guys in red suits.

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It's a tricky question. I had a friend in High School who sent out Capitalism Day Cards instead of Christmas cards. The exchanging of gifts during the winter season has been tied by the church to the birth of Jesus, even though the practice is much older It's good advertising by the church to do so, which is what any religion needs to spread.

 

But there is a reason I see it as a fitting time to bring up religion. It's a time spent with family and friends, it's a time of sharing and appreciation for one another. It can be a dark and cold time if spent alone. It's a spiritual time in my eyes. It's when I am most aware of how lucky I am to have people around me that I care about, and that care about me. For me, it's hard not to believe in God when I'm surrounded by that warmth.

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I think Christmas is what you make it. If you want to see it as a religious holiday, then it is one. If you want to see it as an over-comercialized, meaningless holiday created by big companies and the media, orchestrated just so they can squeeze the last few bucks out of you and every other mindless gear slave of the corporate machine, then it will be. If you just see it as a time to get together with family, and exchange gifts with them because they mean a lot to you, then that's what it will be.

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the only religion in Christmas any more is the fact that you can go celebrate a prophet at midnight if you wanna.

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well originally it was a roman holiday i think... and then it was about jesus. its interesting how its changed so much. its religious to me. well i try to make it. i dont think ppl should get offended if someone wants to make it religioius. and not every one does

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To me, Christmas is a winter celebration that was altered slightly for some due to a culture-shift. The whole religious thing doesn't bother me. I have no problem believing Jesus Christ was born around that time anyway (anything else to do with him though? Fairy tales.)

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I don't celebrate the holidays.

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My mom used to make us go to Church on Christmas Eve. After that I would go back home and my family would come over and exchange gifts (the one's from Santa came in the morning). So I guess it's sorta religious to me, but it's still about trees, lights, cookies, and fat guys in red suits.

Same here.

 

To me, personally, Christmas is religious.

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Well, I do Christmas, but I'm an atheist, so I suppose the answer must be no.

 

I had a friend in High School who sent out Capitalism Day Cards instead of Christmas cards.

 

What a dork.

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I once considered handing out "Happy Native Oppression Day" cards on Thanksgiving. Because I felt like being controversial. Oh, back when I was young, before my premature grey...

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I once considered handing out "Happy Native Oppression Day" cards on Thanksgiving. Because I felt like being controversial. Oh, back when I was young, before my premature grey...

 

I would have kicked your balls if you handed me one.

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I once considered handing out "Happy Native Oppression Day" cards on Thanksgiving. Because I felt like being controversial. Oh, back when I was young, before my premature grey...

 

I would have kicked your balls if you handed me one.

And as soon as it stopped hurting to do so, I would have laughed. Vigorously.

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Phhh, if I lived in the US.. EVERY DAY would be native opression day ;)

 

 

 

 

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As Sando knows I have become more sentimental and sprirtual about Christmas over the years. ;) For me its a damn good excuse to be nice to people without anyone thinking you're mental. I loathe and despise the commercialism.

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Christmas is the Christian version of Winter solstice celebrations . It's not on the right date, I know, but who cares.

 

Anyway, the actual source that Christianity got Christmas day from was, I believe, Roman Mithraism, which was all the rage way back when Christianity was an up and coming religion. The 25th of December was Mithras' birthday.

 

Of course, nowadays it's just about the money and the gifts.

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As Sando knows I have become more sentimental and sprirtual about Christmas over the years. ;) For me its a damn good excuse to be nice to people without anyone thinking you're mental. I loathe and despise the commercialism.

 

i agree.

 

Christmas is the Christian version of Winter solstice celebrations . It's not on the right date, I know, but who cares.

 

Anyway, the actual source that Christianity got Christmas day from was, I believe, Roman Mithraism, which was all the rage way back when Christianity was an up and coming religion. The 25th of December was Mithras' birthday.

 

Of course, nowadays it's just about the money and the gifts.

 

yeah i was trying to get to something like that earlier.\

 

its been made into so many things but unfortunately mostly a money maker. it kind of makes me sick. its done with every holiday. but then again if it wasnt so commercialized it wouldnt feel the same bc it wouldnt quite be everywhere (like in all the stores)

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I guess I get caught up in the whole Christmas thing for awhile, but now that it last so long about mid-December I start really getting agitated. Then it takes a careful mixture of booze and solitude to get me the rest of the way through. Its not totally like that the whole time, but alot of days.

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