Diogo Ribeiro Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Dynaheir was great. I wish she had a place in BG2. She had one. In Irenicus's experiments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Ah yes. I remember thinking "Good heavens. I wonder who dragged her poisoned corpse all the way here from that gnoll encampment?" "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Xan's the man. Or the elf. Or something. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Safana was my primary trapspringer... I wasn't very amused by her "Fate" in BG2 <_< And where the heck was Kivan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Safana was cool. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Dynaheir was great. I wish she had a place in BG2. She had one. In Irenicus's experiments No love for Dynaheir. She's even voiced by Jennifer Hale. Not her greatest voiced character but pretty good. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Safana was my primary trapspringer... I wasn't very amused by her "Fate" in BG2 <_< And where the heck was Kivan? Kivan may not be officially in BG2, but a mod brings him back. Safana was a good thief. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 (edited) What did happen to Safana in BG2? I don't recall. I liked Tiax. You know they should make an all gnome party with Tiax, Quayle, Jan, and Grobnar. That could be hilarious. Edited February 19, 2007 by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Werewolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skynet Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Wasn't Kivan in one of those forest areas post-Underdark that are all pointless and basically empty? "Who could blame Skynet? He's such a cute, innocent, steel-bolted robot." -Gauntlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistrik Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 At least 12 joinable BG NPCs made it into BG2, if only by mention. Imoen Jaheira Minsc Dynaheir - dead according to Minsc; never seen Khalid - dead, body visible in second level of Jon's dungeon Ajantis - killed by you (unknowingly), identified only if Keldorn is in the group (afaik), seen first as an illusion then as a generic corpse Xzar - alive and well, initially, in the dock district, part of Jaheira's Harper quests. Montaron - dead, part of Jaheira's Harper quests, you find his body stuffed into a chest if you search the Harper Hold later on Coran - alive and well in the North Forest; you can save him by means of careful dialog but I've only done this once; he usually dies. Safana - alive and well, initially, in the North Forest near Coran's location; always dies soon after you find her. Tiax - imprisoned in the Spellhold Asylum; helps you fight Irenicus shortly after your arrival. Quayle - now runs a circus in Waukeen's Promenade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Xan's the man. Or the elf. Or something. We're all doomed! Whatever! If you want. Our quest is vain. Such a depressing soundset he has, it wears on your nerves after a while. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Werewolf. Yup, she did the Hades trick. :whoops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) This is really why the whole 'lol NWN2 is 20 hrs only sniff sniff sob sob' was all BS to begin with. Finishing NWN2, it could have benefited from being half as long. now let us be honest. cut 20 hours from a crpg and it ain't gonna simply be the Donkey Kong repetitive barrel jumping that gets thrown aways. also, keeps in mind that cutting repetitious combats and you would still have gotten to level 20... and people woulda' complained 'bout that too. mindless and repetitous activties in a game is hardly limited to crpgs... but crpg developers IS pretty unapologetic 'bout the whole situation. in other games you gets such tedious filler in small doses... crpgs just does more. part o' blame can be laid at feets o' pnp rpg devlopers. heck, d&d and d20 even has some formula worked out from which crs is generated... forms whole basis for granting xps. most combats is not 'posed to be difficult or challenging in d&d, 'cause challenging requires expenditure o' valuable potions and wands and scrolls and magic ammo... not to mention the loss o' hps and possibly playerlives as well. crpgs follow similar formulas... but w/o all the time consuming dice rolling and bathroom breaks, developers adds in stuff to bolster a bit. the only genuine rpgs is mp games with a dm... or mmporpgs. d&d crpgs, for the most part, is squad-basd tactical combat games, with some rp elements thrown into the mix... so maybe compare to strat games. strategy games usually involves a realtive small number of maps or missions which for all intents and purposes functions likes big puzzles. you start off weak and pathetic with a few gunts or space marines or zergs or whatever. maps gets bigger and moe complex, and you gets to slowly access more units... is kinda like leveling. most of the battles you fights in a strategy game is pretty damn repetitious, no? vogel vastly overstates unique nature o' crpgs. in any event, Gromnir would be much in favor of decreasing the number o' barrels we gotta jump... the thing is that we would prefer that the devlopers increase the tactical/strategic challenges of the remaining combat encounters... but reload and rt hinder this somewhat, and the old pnp formula involving X encounters per level is gonna be hard to shakes too. cut 40 down to 20 w/o fundamental change in model would simply gives a game half as long... not result in a game with all the good stuff and none of the pointless barrel jumping. HA! Good Fun! Edited February 20, 2007 by Gromnir "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreides Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 You know they should make an all gnome party with Tiax, Quayle, Jan, and Grobnar. That could be hilarious. No. Spreading beauty with my katana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Convenient to fireball, at least. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 You know they should make an all gnome party with Tiax, Quayle, Jan, and Grobnar. That could be hilarious. No. Why not? Think all the heroic deeds these gnomes could do! Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreides Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 A black hole of insanity would open up and suck everyone's sanity dry. Spreading beauty with my katana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 And that would be a bad thing? Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 What did happen to Safana in BG2? I don't recall. I liked Tiax. You know they should make an all gnome party with Tiax, Quayle, Jan, and Grobnar. That could be hilarious. The midgets. They can be sold to the drow for slaves. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 No, they would enslave the drow, then annoy the drow, blow up the drow, then finally try to entertain the drow. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 More like annoy them to the point that they go mad. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 And that would be a bad thing? Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 What did happen to Safana in BG2? I don't recall. I liked Tiax. You know they should make an all gnome party with Tiax, Quayle, Jan, and Grobnar. That could be hilarious. Grobnar was a Halfling in disguise. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I agree with everyone on this page as to why Fantasy is a burnt-out husk of a genre. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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