alanschu Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 The Liberals got ALL their votes from, Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver (thats no exageration either, the only votes the liberal got were from those 3 cities) Lets not exaggerate too much. The Conservatives only beat the Liberal party by 6% of the vote. And given that the Liberals did in fact win seats in the prairies, demonstrates that it is in fact an exaggeration that the only votes the Liberals got votes in Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. Even in super conservative Alberta, 15% of the people still voted for the Liberal Party. They also won the majority of the seats in the Atlantic. And yet the liberals came within 20 seats of defeating the conservatives for power over the country. Which isn't actually that bad, given that the Conservatives only won by a small margin. To give a example for our american neighbors, imagine if a political party only got votes in New York (the city not the state), Los Angles, and Denver and then almost formed the presidential party in power. You would call that messed up right? I sure would but thats EXACTLY what happened in our last election. I wouldn't call that messed up. The House of Commons is not a regional legislature. It holds the Members of Parliament that represent the people. The regional representation is done by the Senate, and that's where things are insanely screwed up. And please dont talk to me about the NDP, again read their platform, their enviromental solution would cause mass lay offs and economical decline! Harper is trying to help the enviroment with out impacting jobs. NDP doesnt care about jobs or people! Uh, I wouldn't say that. Especially since you apparently feel they are "communist." The NDP Party focuses TOO much on the people. So much so that, as you mentioned, they don't have a fiscal policy to make it work. PPPS: TO the other poster that said he veiws himself as Canadian. In the most recent polling data done, ALL of Alberta veiw themselves as canadian and WANT to stay in Canada as the first choice. BUT they followed that statement up with "I would vote to leave if electorial reform doesnt become a reality in the near future". That would be me. And what poll is this? And those statements are political positioning. It's a threat in order to get something done. If Alberta was so pissed off about the political mistreatment from Ottawa, they would have left back when Trudeau implemented the National Energy Program. The "mistreatment" is easy street compared to then. Edmonton and Calgary are the FASTEST growing cities in Canada, Alberta has the LOWEST unemployement in Canada, Pays the MOST federal transfer charges in Canada, has the BEST health care in Canada (paid for by province, not federal government) yet has less number of seats as Toronto (the city) has for electorial purposes. You know what, I have no problem with this. Alberta was lucky enough to live on Oil. The thing is, the ONLY province to never receive money in transfer payments, is Ontario. There was a time that Alberta was receiving money from Ottawa. Furthermore, I do not feel that economic strength should garner significantly more political power. Otherwise, provinces that are typically poorer such as the Maritimes have their voting power marginalized. Furtheremore, where do you get your numbers for transfer contributions? The official site only talks about who receives what. I can't find who contributes what exactly, since it's based on an amalgamation of all sorts of taxes and so on. Alberta (unlike Quebec) WANTS to stay in Canada, they want to be apart of canada, but they HAVE to have a say in Canada. Right now (with how electorial seats set up) they simply have no say what so ever. This is not an issue of electoral seats. As I said, the House of Commons is a Represenation by Population legislature. This should not change. Granting Alberta more power simply because the province makes money is effectively purchasing the power. It gives additional power to the wealthy, which is exactly how the democratic process should NOT be. I am not in favour of giving Alberta more power in the House of Commons simply because of oil and the wealth it provides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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