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Nvidia GeForce 8800GTX (DX10)


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Bok will probably get it tomorrow, the blasted money pooper.

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It will arrive on Monday actually :rolleyes:

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...maybe around New Year. It's getting harder and harder to wait before building a new system. I'm becoming very impatient. :rolleyes:

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I'm going to play it safe and see how ATI's are going to perform against the Nvidias that will be out at that time. It seemed that Nvidia was rushing it, i wonder what kind of corners they might have cut if any? I know for sure they didn't cut the price.

These price tags are ridicules. As soon as an x box or playstation get a system that has a mouse and keyboard, something similar im switching... maybe. :rolleyes:

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I'm sure they'll drop fairly quickly as others come out.

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Well, if it gets around $300 I'll skip the 7950...

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I'm going to play it safe and see how ATI's are going to perform against the Nvidias that will be out at that time.  It seemed that Nvidia was rushing it, i wonder what kind of corners they might have cut if any? I know for sure they didn't cut the price.



After being merged with AMD, ATI are working on some rather nifty technlology. But, who knows if 2x32 pipelines and 80-65nm core will really make a differance?


My bet is that ATI will push their new top card to be slightly faster than Nvidias, whereupon Nvidia will counter with a 8900, then ATI does a an XXXTXXTX-something.. and on it goes.

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NVidia spent 4 years developing this card. I don't call that taking shortcuts.

This card is also twice as fast as ATI's best card, in a day when new cards typically are considered good if they get half that much additional performance over current cards.

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your probably right, meanwhile the newer cards rise in price. Really, these prices are giving me a headache personally. Is it just me or are these CPU's, and GPU's getting abnormally expensive for the good stuff?

Is there a reason why this hardware is so expensive?

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NVidia spent 4 years developing this card. I don't call that taking shortcuts.

This card is also twice as fast as ATI's best card, in a day when new cards typically are considered good if they get half that much additional performance over current cards.

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Ok Nividia Fanboy. You must be on the mailing list.

The 8800 is not twice as fast as the fastest ati card out. While the 8800 is fast, its not even close to twice as fast.

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Ok Nividia Fanboy. You must be on the mailing list.

Wrong, and wrong. :thumbsup: I like whichever card is currently the best, and I'm on nobody's mailing list.

Thanks for helping prove my point. You must've been looking at the low-res comparisons. Anyone can do well at 1024x768. NVidia clobbers ATI at hi-res even with everything cranked to maximum settings, and hi-res is what some of us care about.

My expression 'twice as fast' was close enough. The reviews I've seen paint a consistent picture that's pretty close to that. Everyone's numbers are slightly different, so I used a generalization.

Edited by Wistrik, 10 November 2006 - 05:10 PM.


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If 25-10 percent is close enough to 50 percent then sure OK. :crazy:

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The 8800GTX is approximately 35% faster than the 7900GTX on average. The 1950XTX-whatever is a 1-2% percent faster than the 7900GTX

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This card pwns Oblivion, seriously.

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Thanks for helping prove my point. You must've been looking at the low-res comparisons. Anyone can do well at 1024x768. NVidia clobbers ATI at hi-res even with everything cranked to maximum settings, and hi-res is what some of us care about.

My expression 'twice as fast' was close enough. The reviews I've seen paint a consistent picture that's pretty close to that. Everyone's numbers are slightly different, so I used a generalization.

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Hmm, let's look at those benchmarks he posted shall we? Just looking at the maximum resolution for each graph...

Doom 3 4xAA 8xAF:   ATI=55.9FPS NV=59.4FPS Difference = 5%
FEAR 4xAA 8xAF:     ATI=24.0FPS NV=33.0FPS Difference = 27%
Oblivion: Outdoors: ATI=14.1FPS NV=21.6FPS Difference = 35%
           Indoors:  ATI=73.7FPS NV=91.3FPS Difference = 19%
                               Oblivion Avg Difference = 27%

Looks to me like it's around 20-25% better performance, atleast according to these figures. No where near double. <_< Still a damn good card though. :shifty:

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You didn't specify the resolution. They test everything from 1024x768 up to 25xx whatever. I was referring to the upper resolutions, not the lower or mid resolutions. <_<

I'm not trying to cause a ruckus, but I did see big differences in all three reviews linked by this thread, but those big differences were mostly in the highest resolutions. The cards are much more competitive in the mid to lower resolutions.

Edited by Wistrik, 10 November 2006 - 09:29 PM.


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You didn't specify the resolution. They test everything from 1024x768 up to 25xx whatever. I was referring to the upper resolutions, not the lower or mid resolutions. <_<

I'm not trying to cause a ruckus, but I did see big differences in all three reviews linked by this thread, but those big differences were mostly in the highest resolutions. The cards are much more competitive in the mid to lower resolutions.

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I did say I was taking the maximum resolutions in from each of the graphs. :( Just for reference that would be 2560x1600. :p)

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This card pwns Oblivion, seriously.

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What about NWN2?

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NWN2 still lags. And it's the uglier game, so it doesn't make sense.

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I'm damn impressed with what I've read so far about the 8X00 series (except perhaps size and power needs..), but I'm quite happy with my X1950XTX so far (I only game at 1280x1024) and I wouldn't make a purchase before seeing what the R600 is all about. I love when both companies release new generation cards and the war starts up again! :aiee:)

Of course, I won't be getting any of these babies until there's actually some use for DirectX10.

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NWN2 still lags. And it's the uglier game, so it doesn't make sense.

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Electron is a poorly written, poorly optimized engine so it needs more power to do less.

I heard something about the lead programmer either being fired or quit shortly before the release.




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