Darque Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Please join us in 3.5, Dark Raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Nah 3.5 is just plain lame, to think of a nice way of putting it. I'll stick with a modified AD&D rule set any day. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Then your reply above is void. As we're talking about 3.5 clerics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Then your reply above is void. As we're talking about 3.5 clerics. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> She's got a point, I'm afraid. Used to be a stickler for 2nd ed, myself. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Then your reply above is void. As we're talking about 3.5 clerics. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We are talking about clerics in general. Mage PWNs those godly obeying power seekers. O NOES! I must say a prayer to my god so he/she/it can grant me a spell! Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 "Please join us in 3.5, Dark Raven." 3.5 wizards can CRUSH 3.5 clerics. 3.5 clerics can CRUSH 3.5 wizards. There is no uber class. It's a myth passed on by those who don't know how to play D&D. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 We are talking about clerics in general. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, you are anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 "Please join us in 3.5, Dark Raven." 3.5 wizards can CRUSH 3.5 clerics. 3.5 clerics can CRUSH 3.5 wizards. There is no uber class. It's a myth passed on by those who don't know how to play D&D. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Flawless victory? Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 They are quite powerful in their own right, but more spells and domain choices would be great while at the same time not make them any more powerful. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe if the domains had mutually exclusive properies (including other domains), such that a cleric might lose the ability to wear a particular type of armour, or use only one type of weapon, or suffer a penalty against a sphere of creatures (like extra-planars), etc. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 That is not how Domains work. Domains are spheres of influence that the cleric's god holds. The cleric cannot have more than 2 domains even if his or her god has more than two domain influences. They are bonus spells and one special ability. That is it. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Personally I think its retarded, but some people here enjoy PvP battles in tabletop RPG's just to pass time while we wait for everyone to gather. Now, those battles have shown: A Cleric will always defeat an equal-level Wizard/Sorcerer if he can get close enough. The Cleric will get his attacks plus an additional AoO everytime the mage attempts to cast a spell, the mage wont be able to use area spells like fireball, and above all the mage will face an ever-increasing DC to his concentration skill. Not to mention that the cleric could grapple the mage which will prevent him from casting any spells at all. But if the mage uses something like levitation to make himself unreachable, the enemy is toast. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Well, of course it comes down to tactics and smarts on the players part. But by the numbers, Clerics outweigh Mages (which sucks since I hate clerics and favor mages) If you start adding hypotheticals like "if she had or if he could cast" then things change since the tactics change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 A Cleric will always defeat an equal-level Wizard/Sorcerer if he can get close enough. The Cleric will get his attacks plus an additional AoO everytime the mage attempts to cast a spell, stoneskin, greater stoneskin, ghostly visage and ethereal visage render just about _any_ attack useless. the mage wont be able to use area spells like fireball, he'll be able to use anything he's protected against. a mage that likes fireball and related will buff up for such things prior to battle. plus, there are many other spells that can virtually incapacitate any foe making such defenses unnecessary. and above all the mage will face an ever-increasing DC to his concentration skill. not if he's protected. Not to mention that the cleric could grapple the mage which will prevent him from casting any spells at all. that still requires an attack roll, right? But if the mage uses something like levitation to make himself unreachable, the enemy is toast. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> or just about any other spell that conceals him, or makes it hard for the cleric to hit him. as someone noted, it is all about tactics. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deganawida Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Not to mention that the cleric could grapple the mage which will prevent him from casting any spells at all. that still requires an attack roll, right? taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Touch attack. Normal AC rules don't apply, though dodge bonuses and deflection bonuses do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 You pay to download NWN2! Who'd be dumb enough to do that? ANYONE HERE!?! DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 You pay to download NWN2! Who'd be dumb enough to do that? ANYONE HERE!?! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Calm yourself down and tell me whats going on here! Else Ill have to put the leeches on you, understand??! Make sense damnit!! DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 You can buy NWN2 online with D2D. There's a link to the site to do so on the NWN boards. I won't repost said link here because it's IMMORAL, and I won't make it easier to commit such immorlaity for my fellow Obsidianites! DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 You pay to download NWN2! Who'd be dumb enough to do that? ANYONE HERE!?! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Piracy! Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 You can buy NWN2 online with D2D. There's a link to the site to do so on the NWN boards. I won't repost said link here because it's IMMORAL, and I won't make it easier to commit such immorlaity for my fellow Obsidianites! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Im all for direct downloads, except that Id never want to give up all the juicy goodies you get with the limited edition box ) DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 "Piracy!" Piracy is not only dumb, and immoral; it should be punishable by DEATH like in the old days!!!!!!!! Paying to download is only worthy of a shake of the head and pity. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 You can buy NWN2 online with D2D. There's a link to the site to do so on the NWN boards. I won't repost said link here because it's IMMORAL, and I won't make it easier to commit such immorlaity for my fellow Obsidianites! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Im all for direct downloads, except that Id never want to give up all the juicy goodies you get with the limited edition box ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But for me, who has no limited edition (<_<) it seems pretty rosey. Music has already moved completely past physicality, why not do the same with games? Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 "Piracy!" Piracy is not only dumb, and immoral; it should be punishable by DEATH like in the old days!!!!!!!! Paying to download is only worthy of a shake of the head and pity. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Especially when you are at 98% complete and get knocked off line. Opps! Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) But for me, who has no limited edition (<_<) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why have you not ordered the Limited Edition? Answer or we shall feed you to the sharkticons! Especially when you are at 98% complete and get knocked off line. Opps! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats when you pres resume download, braniac. Edited October 27, 2006 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Thats when you pres resume download, braniac. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some are not smart enough to use a download manager. I preordered the LE version. If it does not arrive on the day the game is released, I'll go down to Best Buy and buy the plain version. Impatience. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 But for me, who has no limited edition (<_<) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why have you not ordered the Limited Edition? Answer or we shall feed you to the sharkticons! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because I didn't have the cash when they were being offered, and I wanted assurances that I could play the game ASAP. Plus, I live in big, gay America. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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