Get the NWN2 manual here

[Pop]

Doesn't make me any more excited about the game than I already was.

 

This is going to be a slow, slow week.

[Dark_Raven]

I'll be more excited getting the game guide. Packed with far more information.

[deganawida]

I really like the little notes that designate where NWN2 differs from the official D&D rules. That's something that NWN1 really needed to do, IMO.

 

They have Track in the game! Woot! Thank you, Obsidian!

[Jumjalum]

They have Track in the game!  Woot!  Thank you, Obsidian!

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Track makes enemies show up on the minimap, a pretty cool feature.

[metadigital]

Doesn't make me any more excited about the game than I already was.

 

This is going to be a slow, slow week.

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Think yourself blessed: Europe have to wait an extra week.

[Qazplm]

I'm off from school when the game comes out so i don't realy care about getting it a few days later.

[Kaftan Barlast]

The section regarding feats is completely useless as it doesnt actually give full info. I mean, it doesnt even mention that metamagic feats like "quicken spell" will cause the spell to take up a higher spell slot

[Jumjalum]

The section regarding feats is completely useless as it doesnt actually give full info. I mean, it doesnt even mention that metamagic feats like "quicken spell"  will cause the spell to take up a higher spell slot

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This is mentioned elsewhere in the manual, I think in the description of feat-types.

[Kaftan Barlast]

It is, but it should be in the damn section that lists the feats. I hope they dont disguise the crunch* ingame aswell. If you cant see all the ups and down of a feat, you might end up with a weakened character due to bad feat selection

 

 

 

*geek term for everything pertaining to exact numbers and rules

[GreasyDogMeat]

For those clicking on the links and not getting a response, try right clicking on the link and then 'save target as' to save the PDF file to your computer.

 

You need Adobe Acrobat Reader to view the file.

[Kaftan Barlast]

Seeing as there are very few arcane spells that are actually useful, Im contemplating playing a sorceror for the NWN2 OC. Then I can just whore the good ones ad infinitum

Edited October 23, 2006 by Kaftan Barlast

[Arkan]

Seeing as there are very few arcane spells that are actually useful, Im contemplating playing a sorceror for the NWN2 OC. Then I can just whore the good ones ad infinitum

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Sorcerer makes life easier in CRPGs.

[metadigital]

Yep, none of that silly running about spell-memorization stuff.

[taks]

The section regarding feats is completely useless as it doesnt actually give full info. I mean, it doesnt even mention that metamagic feats like "quicken spell"  will cause the spell to take up a higher spell slot

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yeah it does, kinda. there's a tidbit in there that mentions it, though it does not provide much information about how many levels. i think the example was "maximize spell" which is, IIRC, 2 slots.

 

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i agree, kaftan, that there should be more details in some regards. it's nice that they highlight "differences between D&D," but for some reason, it seems games these days always leave out many details that some of us find important. we'll end up having to scour the web pages to find out each of the feats' intricacies, and more important to me, requirements for use (i.e. dependencies on other feats). since i don't play PnP D&D at all (any more), i don't know these off-hand and it makes it difficult to plan a character beyond about 6th or 7th level.

 

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[Musopticon?]

Can't you get the information from character creation eventually? The feat descriptions should be readable even if they are greyed out. Unless NWN 2 has it differently. And of course, for example, you can't read the Great Cleave information without having normal Cleave, since the button comes into the space taken by the Cleave feat previously.

Edited October 23, 2006 by Musopticon?

[taks]

sure you can musopticon. but, as you mention, feats that are not available are not there yet, so figuring out what's required for a future feat is sometimes difficult.

 

oh, it is "mentioned" on page 12 (13th PDF page) that metamagic feats occupy slots higher than their normal location.

 

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[Gfted1]

Bearing in mind I dont know a damn thing about 3.5E, it seems the warlock is pretty gimped. They appear to get crap for "Invocations Known" (page 78) and the Invocations themselves seem pretty few (page 66-67).

 

In addition, the Warlock invocation descriptions dont explain much in the way of damage caused. For example, the Lesser Invocation Eldritch Chain states: Eldritch blast arcs to multiple targets. Well, thats super but it doesnt state how much damage or how many enemies.

 

Is there a "base" damage that all Eldritch based spells do and then these other Eldritch based spells add to it?

[Volourn]

"Seeing as there are very few arcane spells that are actually useful"

 

You are drunk. There are TONS of useful spells. TONS.

[Musopticon?]

Not in a crpg.

 

If this was pnp, then sure, I'd agree with you. But as it is, buff and the highest possible damage spells are the only ones players are going to use extensively. Fireball, fireball, fireball? You bet.

[Volourn]

You are wrong. For one, I hardly ever use fireball in CRPGs.

 

There are TONS of sueful spells in the game.

 

Deal with that fact. Perhaps, certain people just lack the imagination to use spells properly and know which ones are the most useful.

 

TIP: Fireball is amongst the least useful 3rd level spell in NWN.

 

 

Game over.

[Lare Kikkeli]

of course volourn finds all spells useful. he's a NWN champion.

[taks]

well, if you play hardcore rules, fireball is deadly... to yourself. since enemies tend to engage directly, it is bad to use the mass-effect spells in general (at least, those that cause damage). slow becomes your friend, as well as mass haste on your own party. single bad guy target spells also become useful as well as the missle storms. my most used spell, btw, is and has always been, magic missle. simple first level spell...

 

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[Musopticon?]

You are wrong. For one, I hardly ever use fireball in CRPGs.

 

There are TONS of sueful spells in the game.

 

Deal with that fact. Perhaps, certain people just lack the imagination to use spells properly and know which ones are the most useful.

 

TIP: Fireball is amongst the least useful 3rd level spell in NWN.

 

 

Game over.

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You can twist it whatever way you want.

[metadigital]

Actually, Magical Volo is correct: just about any other mass-effect spell has a better damage roll (e.g. lightningbolt; okay, it's fourth level, but for a high level mage choosing between the two) ... what the smart mages are using this season (same as last season, too) is the spells that don't have a saving throw for half-damage, like meteor shower or ice storm.

 

But still, fireballs are somehow just more fun to use.

[taks]

i'm beginning to use scintillating sphere as well. there are many creatures that this proves more effective with.

 

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