Terranova Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) Nope... there's good reason for that. They were your PC's, how do you expect to bring back your own personalized PC without canonizing his/her appearence. The "Remake Revan and Exile before game starts idea" does not make any sense. A player who has never played K1 or K2 is going to be like WTF is this? And if you had played the previous games then you're pretty much going to know that they make an appearence again, which would give up a good piece of the story. I'd prefer if they died. Or... my alternative would be to have one of them communicate with your PC through the force. It's just too much of a hassle trying to bring a character you customized back. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True. We need more people like you, it seems not enough people out there understand how difficult it is to bring back Revan and the Exile for KOTOR III. However, I do have an idea on how to bring back Revan and the Exile in KOTOR III. No they wouldn't be main characters, yes, you'd be able to select their genders and alignments and no, you won't have to worry about choosing their appearences, classes, etc... Revan would appear in his/her mask pre KOTOR look and the Exile would appear with the Darth Nihilus look. Now, there are plot reasons why no matter what they would be like this, and I'm sure if I properly explained it, then anyone who originally disapproves of my opinion would come to a better understanding of everything. Yes, it is based on Jediphile's 'civil war' idea but it isn't excatly the same as his idea, it builds and expands on it. If anyone wants to hear my theory/idea (based on Jediphile's 'civil war') idea, then feel free to PM me. Revan and the Exile can appear in KOTOR III, it is possible, and if you ask me, I think if Obsidian makes KOTOR III, Revan and the Exile will wind up as DS in KOTOR III anyway, even if they were LS. At first most people who's Revan and/or Exile were LS in the previous KOTOR's would say "**** off! My Revan and/or Exile were LS in K1/K2, why the hell are they DS again? That's bullcrap!" However, when the 'civil war' idea is explained, you can understand why Revan and the Exile are DS no matter what, think of there fall as more of a necessary sacrifice, but it would come at a cost, as the dark-side would eventually consume them. If you set Revan and/or the Exile as LS in KOTOR III, then they would be 'redeemable', if you set Revan and/or the Exile as DS in KOTOR III, then they would not be 'redeemable'.' The 'civil war' idea explains why Revan went alone into the unknown regions (not just to bring unnecessary harm to his/her companions), it explains what Revan has been doing in the unknown regions all this time, it explains why Revan locked the navicomputer and was so secretive about where he/she went and what he/she was doing, and last of all, it explains why the 'True Sith' did not attack the Republic/Jedi or Revan's Sith Armada after the events of KOTOR when they were clearly in a weak, vulnerable state. So like I've said, for more details, feel free to PM me, and I'll tell anyone who is interested in hearing about this 'civil war' idea. One last thing, remember what Kreia said about the difference between a fall and a sacrifice and Revan recognizing this, but anyway, this is all for a LS Revan/LS Exile, if Revan and/or the Exile are both DS, then they don't have to worry about turning, they are already evil Sith Lords who can have their mask looks as I've mentioned before... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This idea is plausable. I'm just tired of seeing people constantly asking for "Revan should be in our party!" or "We should play the Exile again". Even what sounds like a simple solution to it all actually contridicts the basic elements of role-playing games. The idea of "masking" the previous playable characters works, as proven with K2. However I can't see using this concept and providing Revan and/or the Exile with a strong role. In Knights of the Old Republic 2 Revan simply appeared to the Exile in a vison. Did not speak, did not reveal any major story implications. So if they did come back this way, presumably as the story's villans, then they might end up playing like Darth Nihilus. And at least to my opinion, Nihilus was flash with no substance. Which supports my arguement about why neither should appear in flesh and blood. Edited July 18, 2006 by Terranova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Architect Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 This idea is plausable. I'm just tired of seeing people constantly asking for "Revan should be in our party!" or "We should play the Exile again". Even what sounds like a simple solution to it all actually contridicts the basic elements of role-playing games. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly... The idea of "masking" the previous playable characters works, as proven with K2. However I can't see using this concept and providing Revan and/or the Exile with a strong role. In Knights of the Old Republic 2 Revan simply appeared to the Exile in a vison. Did not speak, did not reveal any major story implications. So if they did come back this way, presumably as the story's villans, then they might end up playing like Darth Nihilus. And at least to my opinion, Nihilus was flash with no substance. Which supports my arguement about why neither should appear in flesh and blood. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually, the 'civil war' idea will not effect or reduce the roles that Revan and the Exile could/should have in KOTOR III. For example, just read Jediphile's K3 plot proposal and that will show you that they can still have major roles despite being 'masked' characters. But just you wait until I finish my KOTOR III storyline (I have to start it first though) and you will see how the idea of 'masking' both Revan and the Exile will not reduce the role they have in a potential KOTOR III... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 We need a new hero... one who can team up a party a go into the UR to help Revan & the Exile... eventually we could see them as NPC and speak to them towards the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebox15 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I think that you should be able to play as Revan and the exile for a short period like you played as B-4D4 in K2. It would be nice to have a party consisting of Revan the exile and your new PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 B4-D4 was about a minute gameplay... I just think they'll hang around as NPCs and we'll se them once in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 It would be nice to have them mentioned, But only as perhaps visions as Exile saw of Revan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris the jedi killer Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 yea exile should die revan survives A coward dies a thousand deaths but a soulja dies one~ 2Pac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Conroy Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Yes I do, I hope that they build a story where Revan and the Exile become friends and turn to either the light or dark side. I think that would be quite neat. "For my ally is the force, and a powerful ally it is" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Why should the Exile die? It's an excellent character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Revan and Exile should fight . It`s logically that Exile should win, because Revan is past and the Exile future <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So true... unless they're already dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinny Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Why should Revan lose? It's literally the living force(Revan) and the death of the force(the Exile) and it would be mute, thus they both die or they both live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Life ends with death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris the jedi killer Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 The Exile is probaly dead already Revan Lives! :D A coward dies a thousand deaths but a soulja dies one~ 2Pac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Bull***t. Revan is an old grampa by now. The True Sith must have sucked his brain out by now... His dead corpse is probably lying in some big pile of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris the jedi killer Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Exile is not even a jedi master so he's probaly dead :D A coward dies a thousand deaths but a soulja dies one~ 2Pac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Revan's not a Jedi Master either... just a Knight. But however I don't care whether they are dead or not... They probably only make a short apparence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris the jedi killer Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Revan can slay the exile in combat :D A coward dies a thousand deaths but a soulja dies one~ 2Pac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Hmmm.... don't think so... Revan lv. 20 - about 300 HP Exile lv. 50 - about 1000 HP Hmmm.... only 30 lv. of difference... not much <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Ah ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris the jedi killer Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 :D exile does not even say a word A coward dies a thousand deaths but a soulja dies one~ 2Pac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Korr Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Revan yes, Exile I dont give much care one way or the other. But what I dont want is for the storyline to be completely wrapped around those two characters. PLEASE make it a little independant of the last two Kotor's. "The dimmest light can shatter the darkest night, and the light I carry is in no way dim." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I don't care about either characters... I just want I new one... a new Jedi... screw Revan & the Exile. I didn't give a damn if there was the Exile in K2 but I got anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Rexon Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 (edited) Oh course I want to see them both!!!!That's what kotor 3 is suppose to be about.The Exile tries to find Revan and fight the "True Sith".Although i don't care much for the Exile. Edited August 18, 2006 by Darth Rexon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord XAN Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I would like to meet them in battle. Whatever where and how... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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